
Is the success of idol groups from the “Big Three” just hype or is it legitimate?
I often find myself doubting the legitimacy of the success of idol groups from the “Big Three” (SM Entertainment/YG Entertainment/JYP Entertainment).
It’s as if success is guaranteed, not because they have a superior product, but because a major company is debuting them and fans will lap up anything they shit out.
You are correct to an extent.
Generally speaking, it’s much harder for any group that isn’t affiliated with those three companies to make it big.
While I would say that those companies are generally able to recruit better talent, better stylists, and better producers, a significant part of their success comes with the attention that their brand drives.
EXO from SM Entertainment is a solid current example. If an unknown company was debuting that group with what has so far been overwhelmingly mediocre material, they would get almost no attention, and those eleventy trillion teasers wouldn’t be able to happen. Yet, because it’s SM Entertainment, they have managed to stay in the headlines for what seems like months now. It’s honestly fucking ridiculous.
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Anybody who denies the fact that groups debuting from the “Big Three” have a type of house advantage over smaller companies is delusional. Not only do they have all the financial and marketing advantages, but they have dedicated fans who stan everything the company does, so there’s already a fanbase built in as well.
I do think that some competition is starting to emerge though, primarily Cube Entertainment, who seem to be on the verge of making it a “Big Four”.
In my opinion, their monopoly of the industry does a disservice to K-pop. How can the industry grow musically if the “Big Three” control everything?
I’m not sure if they actually do a disservice to K-pop, because they are the ones who have been pushing it internationally. Granted, they’ve done it to expand revenue and increase their market, but that’s the nature of the business, and they’ve done plenty to grow their industry. In fact, you might not be into K-pop today if it wasn’t for those companies, so it’s hard to argue they’re a negative.
Of course, because they dominate the news, they do dictate the trends, and IMMATOP regularly predicts with frightening accuracy what the new trend in K-pop will be. Sadly, it’s become that predictable.
Overall though, I think you’d have to say they’ve done far more good for K-pop than bad.
Is the popularity of new groups from bigger companies legit?
Of course it’s legit in terms of sales and music shows and what not.
It’s only fabricated in the sense that if you give two groups the same talent, same concept, and same song, but one comes from SM Entertainment and one comes from Slave Contracts Incorporated, the SM Entertainment group will have a gigantic advantage from the outset as far as reaching potential fans and creating a fanbase. Plus, they have the means and knowledge to employ media manipulation techniques to keep their group relevant with all the dumb horseshit that you see the media covering.
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Amen.
Agreed.
And hey IMMATOP should do some “K-Pop Trend Prediction” articles!
How would that work?
Like what would be the idea?
:o
A bit like how he replied? I don’t know you are the writers :P
Very well. :o
The first step in predicting Kpop trends is predicting American trends.
Considering that this song has gone mainstream as of late -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY – it would be ideal if Korea would allow music that wasn’t just fucking Kpop a chance to make an impression on the masses.
There is so much interesting shit happening in Korean music that nobody hears about.
Your faves have no chance: http://vimeo.com/37986102
I agree with Ailike3.
I would love to see more of that. :D
LMAO at Slave Contract Incorporated
I know that these people are on a contract, and a bunch of amenities and blah blah blah are included with it, but they still ended up getting chump salaries, right? Especially if you’re in big groups? I know most of the money goes to all the stuff that made to do promotions, etc etc. If you’re only getting attention and fame w/o the bread, count me out then. Call me greedy, but if I’m excepting to be famous like that, not only getting stans that will fuck the ground I walk on, I want my Malibu beach house and my check for a hundred grand every time I exhale. The company might of made me, but the company won’t be NOTHING w/o ME. I prob won’t leave the building alive if I said that -__-
The reason idols don’t rebel like what you would do is because they’re just idols. They can be replaced with ease considering how many ppl want to become an idol. If you were an exceptional influential singer/artist and created ur own music making tons of money for the company then yeah leaving can affect them however these are just idol companies, they basically control what you do and how much you make. Sad really as most of the time i can work at a fast food chain and still have more money than an idol.
You can leave, but only if you have enough of a dedicated fanbase to negate the fact that you will be blacklisted by most and no longer have company support.
JYJ, for example.
Same in Japan. Only reason Jin Akanishi was allowed to leave was because of his fanbase.
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Plus, they don’t rebel because it’s not seen as a positive in Asia as it is in the West.
There’s no “fuck the establishment” movement going on with idols because they are supposed to represent Korea.
To be honest, I think we have very little idea how much idols actually make.
All these articles stating their allowances and salaries are basically media manipulation, IMO.
Chump salaries compared to the ridiculous amount entertainers maker in the US perhaps..
Not chump salaries in korea…
and these people are disposable. they arent musicians, half of the can barely even sing. There are literally tens of thousands of girls ready to come up to replace anyone who quits..
I was talking about the biggest idols in the industry. Like Girl’s Generation, SJ, 2NE1, etc; you know, the money makers of their establishments. Yeah, they could be replaced by a snap of a finger, but will the public/fans like that? There’s no way any of them would ever say that, but wouldn’t it be something if they did? If they made a voice of themselves, the big dogs would have no excuse but to make changes to a few things.
Yeah, theyd be easily replaced. They are nothing more than pawns used by the big business guys out there..Well, often blowjob machines AND pawns..
Okay, but think about those groups. How many of them would be stars without company support?
That’s why companies have all the leverage.
Instead of focusing on the big three people should start looking more into KMP HOLDINGS and start questioning their thinly veiled intentions.
Everybody who’s not an idiot already knows what it is: an attempt to establish an “old boys club” for K-pop.
“It’s as if success is guaranteed, not because they have a superior product, but because a major company is debuting them and fans will lap up anything they shit out.”
I can vouch for that from 2009-2011 for me Big Bang as a group their music got really crappy to me. It was like they were just making anything and people were like omg this song is the best. But individually I thought they were doing better. This latest album is actually one ive enjoyed listening to from that group since 2008.
Their individual projects are so much better.
Those companies could shit on a plate after eating a spicy burrito gone bad and the fangirls would still swallow all of it.