Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
K-pop and I have a long history together. Believe it or not, I was once very much enthralled by the whole scene. Even with my current cynical views on Korean pop music, I will certainly admit that the industry gets it right sometimes, providing for some very entertaining and innovative listening experiences.
My attitude towards the K-pop scene now? Well, it’s a different story than it was before, thanks mainly to a group I label: K-Pop Supremacists.
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Now I consider myself an intelligent and logical individual, so given the appropriate evidence, I come to my own conclusions, which sadly is more than can be said about K-Pop Supremacists, a group that sadly seems to grow by the day.
You know what I’m talking about, because even K-pop fans grow annoyed with the legions of the delusional from time to time, right? K-Pop Supremacists are the fans that will defend their oppars and unnirs to their fucking graves (and probably beyond). They’re the ones that will go tit for tat with you in every argument, touting how K-pop is so fucking innovative, different, and great. They’re the ones that will cringe when you turn on the radio to listen to the latest Lady Gaga, Maroon 5, Adele, or Eminem song.
Ugh.
You know what? Fuck ‘em.
I don’t know if it’s because of K-pop’s “increasing influence” around the world or because I’ve just starting being more observant, but it seems to me that there’s a lot more of these K-Nazis around these days.
I cannot tell you how many times I have instantly regretted asking someone I’ve just met what type of music they listen to. When the answer is “K-Pop”, the conversation almost always instantly precipitates into the following generic mold:
A: “So, what kind of music do you listen to?”
B: “K-pop.”
A: “Oh, cool, I listen to some K-pop. Anything else?”
B: “No, just K-pop.”
A: “Really, no American music at all?”
B: *Hmph*
B: “Of course not. American music is all trash. Too much about getting drunk, high, and laid. K-pop is so much better! The artists are more talented, and they are passionate about their music, and…”
Honestly, I have stopped trying to reason with people like this. I usually just stop listening and try desperately to change the subject away from how SNSD‘s YoonA is so talented and works so fucking hard all the time, or about how that scrawny douchebag Jay Park is soooooooooo hot, or about how the Wonder Girls have become a world-fucking-wide phenomenon.
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The fact of the matter is, there is no reasoning with these people, because like all other radical cult groups, they are firmly rooted in the delusional belief that they are 100% right. What’s even more discouraging is the insistence that they are somehow more “cultured” and “open-minded” merely because they listen to non-Western music. The pure level of hypocrisy and bigotry is astounding.
So please, please, please, while you enjoy your K-pop, don’t become one of these assholes. Don’t become a … K-Pop Supremacist.
Meh, thats what you get when you talk to 15 year old asian chicks :o
Its no reason to stop liking kpop itself…
Ive been into kpop a while…and by ‘into kpop’ i mean ive been jerkin off to the music vids for a while…cant fuckin stand the people you refer to so i simply avoid them…I dont go to soompi or allkpop forums or comments sections..
Unfortunately….as this site gets more popular, more of that kind of person comes over here. :/
It’s not even 15 year old Asian chicks. The white girls from America and Europe are really taking after the characteristics of the crazy middle school Korean girls…. I am on a pen-pal website and they are INSANE.
And Lol I doubt they will come over here, already there have been some FUCK YOU! people commenting in the past, on here, because they don’t like to hear the truth… Allkpop feeds their fantasy of Kpop being perfect and hyping it up, but this site does NOT do that hahaha.
Well yeah it is..
90% of them anyway..
Honestly, I do think it’s more diverse than that.
I hate it when ppl want to comment or defend their oppars and unnirs on their singing skills. It’s so clear they know nothing about singing and as soon as they start, I don’t even want to bother trying to argue. There’s just no point. They don’t know what they’re talking about but they firmly believe their tonedeaf oppars and unnirs who sing nothing in tune are so talented and there’s nothing I can say to change their mind.
I really don’t like the music, I’m into electronica, drum and bass and experimental stuff.
Back in 2008 I saw some Lee Hyori MV and got me interested. Most of the girls are hot, their silly shows are entertaining and that’s about it. I will get tired of it at some point.
Exactly. People are inevitably going to look back at themselves in ten years and think “Wow, I actually listened to that shit?” Meanwhile, I’ll most likely still be listening to a lot of the quality music I’m listening to now.
That’s the thing about K-pop, it operates on a boom/bust type of cycle. People are really into it for awhile, then, eventually, they just get sick of it.
I just wish that people would be less inclined to get so fucking obsessed about it to the point where they just become narrow minded and cynical towards other music.
Honestly don’t think so.
I think that’s precisely why they diversify into things not involving music for people who have basically outgrown that phase of it.
You won’t. You will keep getting drawn in by something, even if not the music.
I think these attitudes of “K-pop supremacists” can be attributed to the narrow scope these fans see their idols/media reports. If a fan is getting their only look into k-pop through one of the select sites like allkpop which exaggerate and sensationalize, they only are increasingly convinced that their ‘oppas’ are infallible, amazing etc.
Also, because you can really only talk about k-pop with those who are familiar with it, there will always be a positive angle reflecting the industry. Unless, of course, you are an ‘anti,’ aka the only source of negative/counter comments since the internet widely provides professional articles which compliment artists (with the exception of rare scandals).
More importantly, it’s the crazy teenage hormones which make you feel an entitlement whenever you’re behind a computer screen. I can admit I’ve fallen in, and out, of that regrettable phase.
side note, I haven’t seen a fan designate themselves as a wonderful in ages, but that could be cause of akp’s forums closing.
To be fair to allkpop and Soompi, all they do is translate what the Korean media writes.
Do they necessarily have a RESPONSIBILITY to knock their enthusiasm down a peg or ten? Not really. It’s a business and that would be a bad move.
It reminds me of how during middle to high school, ppl were feeling smug listening to bands nobody else has heard of.
Hipsters still need to die.
Lol, great post. I think it’s fine for peopleto listen to Kpop to their heart’s content, but I don’t know how people abandon other music for it. I still listen to my classic rock often. I couldn’t give that up for just Kpop.
Like any other sub-culture thing, I think it strikes only a certain type of people. I live in a predominately Asian neighborhood in Chicago, and I don’t really hear Kpop blasting in someone’s car or apartment, or a group of girls spazzing about it. I honestly know more white and black kids are into anime, kpop, jpop more than asians. When I go around my area asking/looking about it, you can say about 3/10 of the Asian people I know/seen in the neighborhood acknowledges Kpop. (not a bad percentage) To me, Kpop fans are equivalent to anime nerds, or the video game addicts, [and insert more here]
What I’m trying to say, the people that are bat shit crazy about Kpop and thinks it’s superior to all, are most likely have had a previous connection with something that relates to it (like anime). Or someone that strives to be different but really just a nerd or a geek that found another hobby. Nothing wrong about being said person, but it tends to get over that one’s head. I know I could clarify this more, but I’m lost for words right now so…
You seem like a very shallow person.
Oooooo, care to explain? I want to hear this.
Oh and some more things; I’m just putting my perceptive from my personal experience and exposure. I didn’t make generalizations, or stating that it is the true case of it. Excuse the hell out of me if I don’t understand the whole concept of why this is an issue and why people are becoming these crazed fans. I apologize if I offend you in any way personally, but for you to sit there reading a couple comments I post on the internet thinking you know what type of view I have on reality? Gurl please.
…tell me some shit…
I kinda get what you’re saying, but it goes the same way about anything. Like people that are Star Wars fans are the kinds that are into science fiction and all that. If you drawn into something that matches the interests you have, you’ll like it. You pretty much don’t have to be an anime nerd to like Jpop. But yes, most or all anime nerds do like Jpop.
So, what you said wasn’t shallow, just a misinterpretation.
Right, it’s going to be a sub-culture eventually. Nothing wrong with that, really, as anime and the likes have had profound impacts internationally.
i totally agree with this. fans need to stop making kpop into something more than it is! its also annoying how people blame other kids they know not liking kpop because they’re racist or something. i don’t even understand why most kpop fans claim american pop is all about sex and drinking. if you look at the current top 100 billboard a lot of the top songs aren’t even about that stuff. and kpop clearly also sells sex anyways. i listen to kpop obviously but i could never imagine just listening to kpop. well most kpop fans are immature hormonal 12 year olds so hopefully they’ll grow up.
That is basically the default argument against other types of music right there.
I really don’t give a f*ck about K-Pop anymore. Whenever people I meet say they like it I just say “oh really now.” My friends are like that though, they will only listen to K-Pop all f*cking day and talk about it, and make friends with others who like it. I’m sticking to my music all over the world and as far a Korea goes I still listen to all the indie, rock, and under ground hip-hop stuff because it’s awesome and there is less fangirling. Still love variety shows though.
Yeah your right. It’s getting boring. I think once something gets too mainstream, it just gets so watered down and boring…. like Kpop now. Haha.
Koreans themselves are going in that direction.
I agree, I’m fairly new to K-pop, but I’m actually kinda getting over it.
I do have an eclectic taste in music, but i don’t see how people can listen to this 24/7.
And its always strange for me to see people get emotionally invested in groups. And feel threatened when someone doesn’t like there favorite idol.
I remember when Kingsley got shitty about kpop stans flaming him LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqrzSW3b5HY
love his reply.
Fuck kpop stanners.
Omg best day of my life
“AND YOU CAN TELL KOREA THAT I SAID THAT!”
Omg was sooo awesome!
LOL kingsley is hilarious
This video is what got me hip to Kingsley. I guess I should thank all the pissed off sones for pointing me in his direction.
Added to favorites.
K-Nazi needs to be like trademarked hahaha. That’s exactly the terminology i’ll use to refer to those fans now. Thanks! Haha
:D
“What’s even more discouraging is the insistence that they are somehow more “cultured” and “open-minded” merely because they listen to non-Western music. The pure level of hypocrisy and bigotry is astounding.”
Omg some of them are the same people who bash the crap outta Korea.. “How could they say that about oppa!?!?!!? Korea sucks sooooo hard!” (well they only bash Korea if it puts oppa/unni in a bad light) but still claim they’re ‘open-minded’ because they listen to non-American music. I listen to Japanese music mostly but I like listening to the music I grew up with too (mostly R&B/old-school R&B/rap/etc) I looooathe obsessive fans of any fandom. In the J-music industry I think obsessive Johnny fans are the ones I can’t stand the most.
Yeah the Johnny’s fans might be…. but I feel like the K-Nazi’s really trump other genre’s of asian music in terms of crazy and obsession. Of course they exist in EVERY genre, but I don’t see them everywhere like I do the K-Nazi’s… those bitches are EVERYWHERE. Literally, on Jeremy Scott’s (the fashion designer) wikipedia, some Blackjacks made sure to go on there and make a special section on his page just to say he is friends with CL…. its ridiculous and it’s making me want to get into J-pop and C-pop and all that even more, haha.
No J-pop fans match K-pop fans internationally. It’s not even close.
To be fair, a lot of commenters in here do it too.
Though it’s less about oppars and unnirs and more about social issues, but still.
And you guys bash whoever.
:o
Though the bashing with obsessive fans seem to be done outta favoritism. Some here I guess outta trolling as it seems ^^;;
With some social issues in the obsessive fandom depending on what it is.. Korea is put on a high pedestal and kinda get Koreabooed. At least I can read some more detailed arguments on here though than on AKP (many of those comments on there lack rationality) But I do think you’re right though.
Well, it’s obviously better here so far.
Arguing about social issues is far better than oppar/unnir shit.
In my life, I have only met three people that listen to kpop, I am so glad none of them are delusional kpop fans. I grew up listening to a ton of genre, but alternative rock is still my roots.
As the saying goes “who listens to kpop for the musical talents?” The rarity of it is there, you just have to look deep enough, but the main reason why people listen to it is because it is catchy, and the girls/boys. If you want korean musical talent, its in the indie scene or the hiphop scene, if you want to imagine yourself banging an idol, its in the kpop scene.
Kpop is 1 genre, in western there are thousands music genre… or you mean american pop vs kpop?? In that case I’ll choose kpop, but for me the best music are 60s, 70s 80s, Jrock and visual kei
I’m not making a comparison between the musical genres; I’m saying that the K-Nazis are forgoing any other type of music (doesn’t matter what genre or language) in favor of just K-pop.
The crazy thing is I know alot of Visual Kei/ Jrock fans who convert to K-Pop and alot of them are crazy. Not saying you are because you’re here and awesome people frequent this site but there’s stuff I see in the K-Pop fandom that so reminds of the VK/JR fandom (the way they troll, the fan fics, dumbass usless racial slurs out of no where etc.)
The ones I know are ex-fans of Johnny’s gaybands…. most of the JR*VK bands I like already disbanded, Siam shade, Lareine, X japan and the best thing that ever happened to my life The Yellow Monkey, they are in other level………. I do like kpop a lot but I got my shit together
But 60s, 70s, and 80s … what genre? :o
Rock, alternative rock, metal, idk from moody blues, lots of glam metal, R.E.M. to Duran Duran, etc…
Amen to that. Just like that open world situation. Most people would be like I hope the victims are ok but these kpop supremacist as you call them they are more interested in if their oppars that were forced to do things to the victims are ok. And im sitting there like did he put a gun to their head otherwise I dont see how he made them do anything.
Don’t even get me started on that JYJ bullshit…
That is by far the most disturbing thing to me.
The fandom is insane, but I understand why they are fans.
However, overlooking serious shit like suicide and rape and murder and abuse just because you’re a fan of something is fucking ridiculous.
kpop is, in my case, just a few songs in my playlist. i dont find it healthy to listen to it all day long though lol
im guessing that kpop is just a phase in this people’s life and then they’ll look back and they’ll be all “oh god why”
K-Pop Supremacists that is so true but if you use this term consider way to offensive. That you’re most likely anti scum or just taking it to seriously. Usually the one who openly criticize who seem more crazy in the eyes of the obsessive.
LOL, this poor girl made a rant against Western Kpop fans and look at all the K-Nazi’s attacking her in the comments… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5qAVGojZo They are crazy!
Sounds like shes ranting about them not being hardcore enough :o
Yeah, that’s the fucking insane part.
WHERE HAVE THIS SITE BEEN ALL MY LIFE? I thought Seoulbeats was the only site that wasn’t infected with the deadly virus ‘delusional fanbitchitis’. But their journalism was too soft. Finally there’s one that tells the whole truth.
FUCK YEAH!
b (^.^) d
“delusional fanbitchitis” rolf
I’m going to use it and take the credit
(ಠ益ಠ ) YOU NO TRY STEAL MY CREDIT!!
MY PHRASE! MINE
We tell the truth, but as the site grows, I’m sure there will be more insane fucks showing up.
:o
Sites don’t truly control their audience, after all.
People like these “K-pop supremacists” can be found in all walks of life.
Another example I can think of is Apple fanboys/girls. They think every product that Apple puts out is a totally original miracle device and everything else is shit. They will troll the comments sections of tech review sites and trash non-Apple products for no other reason than that they are non-Apple products.
There are tons of other similar examples, but the bottom line is: there is a certain segment of the world’s population that values being part of a “group” or “club” over individual, objective thought.
These people, depending on what place and time they were born in, would have made prime candidates to become cult members, Nazis, or gang members. That may be over-dramatizing it, but it is exactly that type of thinking that leads to those sorts of things.
Ugh omg Apple fans are annoying. I got my mac only because I went to college and that’s what my major used mostly. I kept telling people before iPhone and all the kinda apps they had (and their video chat) Japan & other places had it first. I just roll my eyes at overhyped Apple crap.
But yeah I never liked delusional fans in any type of fandom because they’re the extremist one can be.
Apple fanboys….my second most hated group. They are so uppity.
They truly are brand whores though.
It’s disturbing. The company doesn’t give two shit about them but they have real loyalty to a brand.
I thank “god” (=steve jobs) every fucking day that he created those butthole-licking idiots.
Since I don’t know any delusional kpop fanbitches in real life, I have to troll the cocksuckers of apple.
So many apple fanboys and hipsters in my company, it’s like troll heaven.
Also when a dumbass gets an Apple device, they have this ego thinking they know so much about technology. I read a yahoo news post (I don’t why either) about Apple is trying to overthrow the video game consoles. How the hell you try to put a game that has multiple functions and controls into a touch screen? Imagine all the things you have to press and slide to do shit. That ain’t fun.
Really? That’s odd, since Apple’s business model is built around their consumers NOT knowing shit about technology.
This reminds me of an article that said one guy in China exchanged his kidney for an iPad/iPhone. I have a Mac but shall never get an iPhone or it’s siblings.
I think that shit was just for the status symbol though, not for loyalty.
Important to remember though that no matter how smart an individual may consider himself or herself to be, we are all susceptible to doing similar shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yReeV3RUk40
This video = absolute gold.
I personally do listen to mostly Kpop. Tbh, that’s mostly all that I have on my mp3 player, but the thing is, I know when to jump back to reality. I don’t think that there is anything wrong with really liking the music, but I agree that those crazy fangirls are ridiculous.
I can not tell you how many arguments I’ve been in with idiots about certain groups just because they got butt-hurt because I didn’t like their “oppa” or “unni’s” whatever.
Those are the people that make me question what I’ve gotten myself into, but, at the end of the day, I got into the music for the music, not the extra crap that comes with it so when I see stupid ass comments from stupid ass wannabe-asian-fangirls, I just ignore them.
Oh ma god, that was so full of win. LOL
You’re so right. I like kpop as much as the next person, but I’m not all out on it like some religious cult. People need to get over themselves and calm down. Imagine instead it being kpop but carrots. How dumb will that look? But its no difference to the behavior.
‘OH, YOU DON’T LIKE CARROTS!!? THEN YOU JUST JUNK FOOD EATING FAT BITCH!”
*chants* Always keep the faith… always keep the faith.. ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!! (yeah I know it’s JYJ/TVXQ but when I think of Kpop cult that’s the first thing that pops in my head)
Power of 9 come into mind too..
What power? lulz.
@mochi
The power of 9 compels you… THE POWER OF NICE COMPELS YOU!!!!!!!!!
WORD~!
http://antikpopfangirl.blogspot.com/2012/04/our-love-is-real.html
I still want my oppar to do that things to me in pizza hut’s bathroom
I admit I have trouble finding American hip hop songs I like, but then I had that problem long before I knew about kpop. XD
True. But there’s also the attitude some people have, assuming you are “obsessive” or have a “fetish” for Asians or something…(see: the normative judgements made about people who like anime)
“Oh, you listen to Kpop…? Why!? You have SUCH an Asian fetish!“
Not just white and black people, Asians [ Koreans] too. I happen to have a shower playlist that I use to get me up for my 8ams. It’s predominantly Kpop because 2010-11 has been the year of club hits and, again, I’m listening to this to get me out of bed at 7am. My friend saw it and said it was weird…I’m obsessed. I have 3,000+ songs in my library 400 songs are Kpop :/ (I like to download complete albums even though I only like 1/10 of it).
I hate the supremacists, but these people are even worse. The former may suck, but it’s proliferated to the extent that it’s not longer a niche market anymore. Then again, I was just getting to the point where I was no longer embarrassed to tell people I listen to Kpop, but now these insane fans are fucking it up.
That’s usually in reference to liking Asian women or men, not music preference though.
And that’s the exact attitude I’m talking about. There are people that view it as a “Gateway” (i.e. you’re in it because of some pervese affinity for asians). It’s complete BS.
I would say most who are into Asian pop do have a perverse affinity to Asians though, including Asians like me.
:o
I mean, don’t tell me these white and black dudes just can’t get enough of “GEE GEE GEE GEE BABY BABY BABY” because it touches their soul.