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If you haven’t been following along with the sexual abuse scandal at Open World Entertainment, you can catch up here, but the latest is that the police have confirmed that the CEO of the company, Jang Seok Woo, forced male idols to abuse trainees. Additionally, he abused the trainees himself.
On April 15th, Kangnam police confirmed, what was previously reported, that Open World Entertainment‘s CEO had indeed ordered male idol group members to participate in the sexual harassment of six of his trainees.
Police revealed that the CEO could face several charges of gang rape, and that investigations also revealed that he had indeed ordered his male idol groups to participate in the abuse.
Officials of the police stated, “Since the end of 2010, the CEO sexually harrassed six trainees over 10 times. In the process, he had also ordered male idol groups members under his own agency to harrass them as well.”
The police have currently launched additional investigations into the case and are discussing the charges to be made against the male idol group members.
Police continued, “We believe that the CEO had not used violence or threats to force the male idols into committing such acts, but rather his status and power. We will have to continue our investigations on whether there was such compliance at the actual scene.”
As previously reported, police have confiscated CCTV videos and phone conversation recordings and currently have a considerable amount of evidence against the CEO.
So the police basically confirmed that Jang Seok Woo is a fucking dick, but the tidbit that could take the scandal to the next level is the statement by the police about bringing charges against the male idol group members.
Nobody’s sure yet exactly what their involvement was, or whether they actually resisted doing what they were told, but if they get charged, then their names are probably going to be released as well, creating a whole other scandal.
I mean, what if these “male idol members” weren’t really opposed to the sexual abuse? I mean, they can be painted as vulnerable victims in this case ~ but they could also be horny douches who had no qualms about touching the trainees…
I think that’s the question right now, yeah.
Dont you think that because the CEO didnt use violene or threats that they could be more likely to be brought up on charges?
Omg, on the Allkpop comments there are OPPAAA girls denying X-5 had any involvment, and other girls saying “a friend of The Boss came foward and said they are not involved.”
…wtf.
those oppa fans are annoying as fuck. would they be shouting “oppa oppa” if it happened to them?
I seriously never heard of X-5 being a group ever since this fuckery came up. At first I was confused of what these bitches was talking about. “X-5? WTH? Ain’t that a BMW or something? What’s so great about that gas guzzler?”
All I know is my job isn’t worth raping a girl.
No amount of intimidation is going to make me do that shit.
I do find it weird that they translate it as sexual harassment rather than sexual abuse…
Unless he held a gun to their heads, the male idols should be charged with rape.
I agree with that. THe males should be charged also. Nobody forced them to do anything from the looks of it. “Sexually abuse that girl or you wont be in my company anymore”, if the CEO told me that, I’d quit and tell the cops or bring this shit out to the public.
Yeah, I think so too.
This is really saddening… the guys are so young and the girls were even younger probably.
This guy just effectively fucked up their entire lives.
He fucked up their lives? They didnt HAVE to force their erect cocks into those crying girls..Sounds like they fucked up their own lives to me.
Exactly. The CEO is a piece of shit but those male idols are too.
You can’t force anyone to do something like that.
Okay, well then take this guy out of the equation.
And I doubt they would have raped (or “sexually harassed”) those girls. If they weren’t forced or threatened, their mentality was certainly influenced to think that they should or could.
Look here, I’m not defending them and I think they deserve the punishment that befits their crimes. But I feel sorry for them, and most especially for the victims, because they could all have lead happy lives if they didn’t meet this guy.
Well you clearly are defending them.
but theres nothing you, or anyone can say that can justify what they did…UNLESS they were being threatened with violence..IE he was holding a gun to their heads and telling them to rape the girls.
The video must be pretty damning if the police are rolling this hard.
i still dont believe anyone will do any serious time over this. booze will have been involved and thats the answer to everything
Dude, you’re angry. I’m angry about this too. But can you get past that for a sec and stop implying that I’m some sort brainless obsessed fan who’s defending them?
All I’m talking about are the ‘what if’s’. I obviously know that what they did is completely unjustifiable and it’s done already (with damning evidence) so yes I hope there’ll be some high-profile arrests over this. But you’re probably right… the law is weak as it has always been with these kind of cases in SK, and I hate that.
Im actually not angry at all..If im honest, i dont really care..Sad i guess..but thats life.
Well, there hasn’t been anything said yet that he made the idols actually rape them… Sexual harassment cover’s a wide variety of things. It could have just been fingering or groping or something…. but then again, who knows how much more sickening the details could be as the police release for information. I do agree – if he wasn’t holding a gun to their head, they should be held accountable.
Well the korean articles actually say sexual abuse and rape rather than sexual harassment..It confused me a bit too..I keep seeing it referred to as harassment in the english translations.
Gotta wait for more to come out, I guess.
as sad as it is, this will be covered up to protect the “hallyu” image of Kpop and South Korea.
That doesnt really make sense..Surely if they were going to cover it up, they would do it BEFORE its all over the news?
Well I assume (or hope) that the police had good intentions of uncovering this.
But now that it’s out in the open, strings are certainly going to be pulled.
I wonder what’s going to come of X-5 and The Boss after this…. if some of the members are charged with some kind of sexual harrasment then of course their image is ruined and that will go downhill – but if they aren’t and remain anonymous, I don’t know if Koreans will support them as, forced or not, they were involved in sexual harassment and they aren’t the nice pure idols that the idols must show to the public…. I wonder if, regardless, disbandment is along the horizon – but who knows.
If they get charged with something like this, I find it hard to believe they will continue. Not like they were hugely popular to begin with.
In a way it wouldn’t be necessary, there will be a lot of denial, tunnel vision, and ignoring this sort of thing. Myself would still listen to Kpop, but like any other genre, it’s just music and entertainment to me. Unlike certain people, I don’t treat it as higher than that. I think pretty much it’s the same way with most of us in this site.
American pop culture is full of scandals and has a tarnish reputation, but its still known globally whether its good or bad.
It does effectively get rid of the whole moral high ground argument though.
Yes, but that’s not how Koreans think. Once your reputation is ruined, you are done. Of course, there are some exeptions like that singer’s sex tape and all of that ~~ but yeah. Either way, I think their image has been ruined in Korea, and they haven’t even been around for a while.
Well I’m half Korean, but that’s pretty much goes the same way with every Asian nationalities about losing face and honor and all that. Not only you shamed yourself, you shamed family!
If you’re in a certain position or if you’re liked by many, probably you get a slim chance of making it up and people overlooking it….BUT WE NOT FORGET!
Nobody will care in America about this because nobody cares all that much to begin with.
Still though, if some artist was convicted of rape, I guarantee they would get a ton of shit from everybody.
If you are talking about American artists being accused of rape, I agree. But didn’t Chris Brown do fairly well even after he got into that domestic abuse thing with Rihanna? To me domestic abuse and sexual abuse are equally as bad.
Not to mention Michael Jackson’s child molestation scandals too. I’m not disagreeing with you but I think even though American artists will get a lot of crap for it from the media at that specific moment in time, and be made the butt of the joke all throughout their career, people will eventually get over it and won’t care. MJ still got lauded for his musical legacy and legendary status, fancy funeral and all, despite these cases.
I don’t think any scandal (except murder?), no matter how bad, will stop them from selling or even tarnish their reputation in America (depending on your fame). Sounds bad but I haven’t found a case yet where something like this has prevented a successful artist from doing well afterwards.
Despite domestic violence being frowned upon in America, it’s nowhere near the social stigma that rape is, I think.
Chris Brown will forever get shit for what he did. He’s still a punchline for many people.
Michael Jackson was acquitted though.
If the guy told them to jump off a cliff would they jump??
I would if my oppar asked me to. Oppa oppa!!
*We believe that the CEO had not used violence or threats to force the male idols into committing such acts*
*Several charges of gang rape*
Seriously? and parents and society are worried about Lady Gaga turning their sons gay….
“Those idols must go to jail too” Wow fans are getting more conscious… errrr nop they are being so “concious” because these groups are meaningless. If this issue was with SM entertainment the reactions would be very different “Those bitches seduced my oppar” “I’m so jelous of them” and more facepalm material.
If this is confirmed those guys will be more busy in jail than they’ve been on their idol careers…. just imagine Karam in prison
Where’s the ‘Like’ button on this site? Lol
I agree with you ma’am/sir =)
is miss, I’m not married yet I’m waiting for my oppar
Lol my apologies =)
Korean prison isnt like western prisons :o
I’ve heard that too, but come on imagine a bunch of deprived old pervs and those “pretty boys” on the same cage AND it happens I saw it in a movie
what movie?
In Lady Vengeance, it was in a women’s prison but the action is the same
Earlier on they mentioned that its been going on since 2010, at the beginning of 2010 D-NA‘s Karam mentioned that he was sexually harassed by older men before and in one of the interviews X-5 said that their maknea Sulhu was afraid to go into the basement by himself. So i was just wondering if all of this might have been going on even before 2010. what do you think?
Ehhh – you might be reading into it too much. From the way this sounds, it doesn’t sound like the CEO was like sexually abusing the male idols directly, just making them touch the girls and stuff. So I dont know if Karam was a victim, or that Sulhu is afraid of the basment for any other reason then it’s a creepy basement.
i probably am but it just made me think for some reason…like what karam said in 2010 and that it also started in 2010 :/
Yeah, it started in 2010 – but Karam was saying he’s been touched by men in the past.
i probably am but it just made me think for some reason…like what karam said in 2010 and that it also started in 2010 :/
Okay I give up. What is it exactly that’s pixelated in the pic?
Handcuffs.
Why would they…nvm
because handcuffs imply guilt. an image of a guy in handcuffs is very powerful and can influence people.
he hasnt yet been found guilty of anything…
@Nana
But it implies more guilt/controversy I think when they blur it out since we can obliviously tell what it is lol
Well the guy that asked the question didnt twig too fast :o
but yeah, i think its stupid but i believe thats the rationale for it…i think its the same in japan too.
@nana Coming from the one that called me a guy….
Kinda hard to judge your gender from your username..
What has occurred to me is that I don’t like how Asian newspapers report on these cases and how the K-pop websites translate it.
I believe they have a presumption of innocence in the Korean legal system, but unfortunately they very recently implemented a jury trial system. Articles that this that claim the police have “confirmed” something is just going to make convictions more likely without juries really taking the time to review the facts of the case.
Now I’m not saying shit didn’t happen but it is important to realize that we shouldn’t judge a person before the facts have been proven beyond reasonable doubt. I really don’t like all these clueless K-pop fans saying things like “WE SHOULD HANG THE BASTARD!” as it just speaks to the woeful level of education we have nowadays. What, we are going to justify the killing of someone just because the police allege he’s done something? It’s same shit as the Kony thing, a bunch of teenagers have suddenly been made aware of atrocities and now they feel the moral justification to call for people’s heads.
I’m pretty sure with what we know about the entertainment industry that this dude probably raped a bunch of his trainees. But I like to sit back and keep an eye on the case to see how it develops rather than jumping to conclusions. Same deal with the Daesung case and the GD case, one cannot presume to know Daesung ran someone over based on a fourth hand translated article by AKP.
Lol.
Normally I would agree with you, but he already admitted to six counts.
Nobody took psyc classes here?? There are a few examples where we learn of that when a person of authority demands something without violence or physical threat it’ll get done just because of either fear or the power/influence of the other person (like Pavlov’s dog and an experiment where someone in a labcoat asked some participant to press a buzzer and the dude attached to it would get shocked and zapped horribly but they still continued pressing it if asked) and Korea is pretty hierarchical — not saything that shiet is right but most Asian countries still run things pretty backwards/differently
You dont need to have taken psych classes to know that….but its not just them asking you to do ‘something’ is it? Its them asking you to gang rape some chicks..and do it while being recorded.
Even if i wanted to rape the shit out of those chicks AND wanted to keep my job…I sure as fuck wouldnt do it in front of witnesses and cameras…
Someone in power can influence you to a certain extent…but to commit terrible crimes AND put your own future in danger? Nah, not buying it…
If there was no direct thread of violence, those guys wanted to rape the chicks…
Lol go on Tumblr with the Boss or like an X-5 tag… the girls aren’t even saying OPPIR DIDNT MEAN IT – they are all denying it and saying ” THE BOSS AND X-5 WERE NOT INVOLVED!!” Like…. wtf. Open World Entertainment only has two idol groups… The Boss and X-5. I think, everyday, I get to a whole other level of pissed and annoyed at the Kpoppers.
Do they have ANYBODY else in their company?
What I just read: “oppar didn’t mean it”
Yeah, but it’s like killing somebody and letting SOMEBODY else video tape it.
At some point being human has to kick in, doesn’t it?
Wow and his hoodie says Boss on it too? Anywho wow….. this is just gonna be a big mess.. I’m too scared to read the AKP comments because I’m gonna lose some IQ-ness in there (I must be a masochist to still keep going back to read comments lol) So what’s gonna be mangers & other people’s view on these dudes if they were proven to gang-rape? “Well… It’s inevitable and natural for a group of guys to gang up on those lower-class women so…. Oh well *Kanye shrug*”
LOL I thought I was the only one noticed that one. “ooooo Someone’s over themselves!” About that handcuff thing, at first I knew it was something like that, but I was like why the heck would they blur that, and got me thinking it’s something else. Yes, do not go to that AKP post. I just lost the ability to do basic math after reading it.
What?
Boss is a clothing brand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss
I’ve never heard of it ^^;; I haven’t heard of many brands honestly (which is bad of me since I’m kinda into fashion ._.)
Well yeah, but isn’t it a funny coincidence the label he’s wearing is BOSS, and he is a boss….? Ah? Aaah? :D
…Okay its not really funny, but I thought it was funny at first .__.
I thought it was funny too .___.
I’m just waiting for the trail cause I’m curious how this will end.
If he ‘confess’ he might be given a lessor sentence. This means if he confess and also appoint he and assistance or accomplice that had help. Unless that was the person who was involve he is pretty much screwed.
I hope he goes to jail for a long time. I know Korea make sure those who are convicted on capital charges do full time.
The CEO and the idols were drunk and therefore, for the sake of the court, victims of temporary insanity.
The girls in question did not attempt to physically fight off their rapists therefore it is not rape at all.
6 months probation for the CEO due to influencing the male idols. Not guilty verdict for the male idols.
Wouldn’t be surprised.