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On SBS‘s “Healing Camp“, JYP talked about many things, the most disturbing of which involves him questioning whether evolution happened or not.
When asked what his final goal in life was, JYP stated that he wanted to figure out who made humans and the world. That is why he is currently studying the “Evolution Theory,” and the “Intelligent Design Theory.”
JYP wants to spend the rest of his life answering whether he believes in that picture or science, which confirms to me that he might be missing a chromosome.
The man has just lost the remaining credibility he had in my mind. Intelligent design? Really? Well, fuck all.
Ive studied intelligent design too :o doesnt mean i thought it was anything more than an amusing fairy tale ^^
As if I didn’t have enough reasons to mock him already.
I actually prefer to believe that picture could be real, just because that would be bauce.
Also, if Jesus could lead an army of dinosaurs to thwart evil.
I cracked up seeing that pic. Thanks for sharing.
What
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Wow the smugness in this article is suffocating but i suppose that is to be expected.
I don’t get the ridiculing, he said he is studying both evolution and intelligent design. Where is the problem with that?
O.o
One is science. One is religion.
Yes and?
Science is always incomplete and searching for information.
Creationism already has their story complete. What is there to study?
Intelligent design has no merit. You either believe it or you don’t. There’s no point in “studying” it.
And perhaps he just wants to find out more on intelligent design and understand the thinking behind it,maybe he doesn’t want to be dismissive about it before he is really informed on the subject.
The thing is he said he is learning both, he is choosing to be educated on both points which is commendable.
From what ive seen, there is no ‘thinking’ behind intelligent design…or by those who believe in it.
Smart move..
Saying hes studying both means he doesnt alienate the intelligent people OR the ignorant religious morons…
This idea that people who believe in God are morons is like me saying all white people are racist (well). I am not religious but believe in God but that hasnt stopped me from learning about evolution and the validity of the process.
I dont think God and science are mutually exclusive,in fact I happen to believe they work very well together,even though i know there are those who disagree on both sides of the debate.
Thats probably the worst analogy ive ever seen on the internet EVER..
This isnt the place for a religious debate but intelligent design has zero scientific basis. There isnt a shred of evidence for any of it. Its a ridiculous fairy tale that placates the weak minded.
To suggest that its the same as a racist, and extremely easily disproven generalisation about white people is just silly.
but if you believe in intelligent design, you being silly is a given.
I lol’ed at your entire comment.
‘extremely easily disproven generalisation about white people’
Biggest bullshit statement on the internet today. It is not easily disproven because every time a PoC has some discussion with a white person about race that white person losses the plot and their underlined prejudiced views on race brought on by their privilege comes out but this is a debate for another day.
My analogy is correct, you said ‘ignorant religious morons…’ you grouped all religious people together as unthinking which is the same as my statement of all white people are racists. I like you am grouping an entire group of people based on what ive read or heard from some but not all. I know of many intelligent religious people just as i know many idiots who happen to be atheists.
“THE WORLD IS 2000 YEARS OLD AND CREATED BY THE HEAVENLY FATHER!” I’m all for people believing what they want to, but those people are crazy! Sometimes I don’t get the US and how it operates. “Put creationism into the schools”, the religion with politics, everybody’s else belief is wrong and whoever born in a country that don’t have Christianity are doomed to go to hell if you don’t hook up with Jesus. Well bitch if that’s case ALL the fucking stuff better have the same treatment. Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam,..all of that. I think it would be a clusterfuck. If this is the “Land of the Free”…then fucking be like it. Didn’t those dumbass witch-crazy pilgrims were trying to get away from religious oppression anyway?
You can lol all you want. You just outed yourself as a racist. Nice work. ^^ Especially amusing given how hard you ranted at me back in the day.
Instead of using that generalisation about white people as a counterpoint to my own perceived generalisation, you actually try to justify it and pursue it…
you miss, are racist.
I didnt say all religious people were unthinking at all. Im saying he didnt offend the ignorant religious morons. That does not mean that all religious people are ignorant morons.
And how did i out myself as a racist? I gave you crap on that article because it was deserved because you were making ignorant statements about the ‘normal’ behavior of blacks.
I made an analogy to make a point that grouping people together which you did.
‘you actually try to justify it and pursue it…’
I am stating facts about the behaviours of people ive had discussions with,I and other PoC. I dont suck this shit out of my thumb.
Now did i actually say that all white people are racist? No.What i did say is that your statement that we can EASILY DISPROVE that is a lie,which it is.
Everyone can read what you wrote ^^ and you cant delete it.
Im happy you finally outed yourself for what you really are.
Not only racist but a hypocrite too…awwww yeah.
And this is why I hate debates. People get pissed off for no reason at all, and it almost always ends in someone calling somebody else racist, which automatically prevents any actual intellectual debate from actually happening.
This is what i said ‘every time a PoC has some discussion with a white person about race’
EVERY TIME not every white person or PoC.
Both are singular,and I am not the only one to have had these discussions but i will narrow it down to myself for now.
Um…ok? I was directing it at Nana. Kinda confusing me now.
i really hope english is your second language because i KNOW you arent that stupid..
‘every time a white person’ – that right there means ANY/EVERY white person.
@Lilly were you agreeing with me or disagreeing?
Nana reading is a skill one that you clearly don’t possess. I now suggest you read my comment AGAIN but slowly this time,break down the words if you have to ok.
@JJ i wasnt lol but i do. Seldom happens that people can talk about subjects like religion and or race without being overly emotional about it.We all do it.
I can read just fine thanks. Either you are a racist hypocrite or you made a mistake in your post.
‘every time a PoC has some discussion with a white person about race that white person losses the plot and their underlined prejudiced views on race brought on by their privilege comes out’
This quite clearly means EVERY time any person of colour…….with ANY white person, the white person shows their inherent racism.
I really hope it was just a mistake in your post composition. If not, you are a real piece of work.
If you don’t think “every time a person of color talks with a white person” means everybody, then you should probably rephrase.
@Baddestbitch
I am not sure what you’re saying?
Christians believe their brand of faith is correct as do Muslims and Jews,all three abrahamic religions subscribe to that notion.
I am not for teaching kids religion in schools,teach them science,teach them math but whatever their religious inclination lies is their business.Now if they get home after school and want to know about creationism/ID then let them find out,it is a choice an option, they can do whatever the fuck they want.
“Christians believe their brand of faith is correct as do Muslims and Jews,all three abrahamic religions subscribe to that notion” BAM! That’s my point. Tell that to the typical Christian and see what they’ll say. And yes, I’m also saying that people’s belief is their business, it don’t seem that way for a lot of people. “Oh you was raised in a home of people are Buddhists? That’s wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself.”
Science and Religion doesn’t work together at all, if that could be said so easily, then they both wouldn’t be a problem today. Science is an ongoing of studies, research, questioning, etc. Creationism has a “conclusion” to how things are and working right now. Not saying you can’t study both, its good to do that so you can know the differences and knowing more about something is better than not knowing about it at all. Most tend to make dumb remarks on how people are crazy and can’t compute on how they would be that way. *Looks at Christian extremists*
I disagree.These two ideas do not have to be mutually exclusive people just make it seem like they are.Both sides are too busy trying to disprove the other.
I dont think the earth was created 7000 years ago,i dont believe that humans and dinosaurs roamed the earth together,that shit is just stupid.
Science helps me understand how the earth, the universe functions and I personally believe (and you dont have to share in this belief but dont have to belittle me for having it either) that science helps me understand how God made everything. To some this doesnt make sense but it does to me.
Creationism as a science is weak and there are extremists in every group.
If that works for you, I guess it’s cool then. I can’t monitor how the way to live your life and vice versa. Christians and etc have different ways of expressing their belief than the next person, Atheists have differences from one another too.
You can believe in God and be a scientist.
You just can’t believe in any religion literally.
“…every time a PoC has some discussion with a white person about race that white person losses the plot and their underlined prejudiced views on race brought on by their privilege comes out…”
So, are you claiming that every white person is secretly and inherently racist and this will always be apparent whenever you try to discuss an issue regarding race?
Or am I reading this wrong?
So, are you claiming that every white person is secretly and inherently racist and this will always be apparent whenever you try to discuss an issue regarding race?
No,it would be easy for to understand racism if one was born racist and i am not saying that white people are inherently racist. Racism is thought,bias and certain opinions about people are learnt and even if a person may not appear at first glace or first encounter as racist or as upholding an opinion that reinforces racist stereotypes about certain racial groups,when you start to discuss these issues those biases and ignorance opinions pop up and they do so quickly.
It is as simple as denying that blackface is offensive or denying that a person’s experience of being discriminated against solely because they are a PoC,which i find happens a lot.Statements like ‘you’re just reading into something that isnt there’ or ‘you people are obsessed with race’ things like that.
Those who do not know what it is to be truly discriminated against will very often dismiss the experiences of those who do. That is been my experiences with some of the white people ive spoken to about race.
You didnt say your experience though..you said every white person and every person of colour.
Were you trying to say you agree with me?
Oops wrong place
lol He’s studying both… he didn’t say he believed both. Or did he?
Creationism is a rather brief story, especially compared to evolution.
I suppose it’s a public relations move to play both sides. However, if you say you’re going to study both as your final goal in life, it does infer some belief because otherwise what else is there to study as far as intelligent design goes?
To be fair though, we dont know what he actually said because FUCKING SOOMPI!!!!!!
True.
I don’t see how that would be misinterpreted though, unless they completely fabricated the “final goal in life” part, which I guess is possible.
Well what they translated as ‘studying’ could have just been reading about..or something like that :o
I really dont understand why they dont ever link their sources..Its annoying as fuck and means we have to completely rely on their translations :/
thats one thing AKP does right :o
Not entirely sure, it doesn’t take much more effort.
Creationism can definitely be studied. As a life goal, yeah, maybe not so much.
Of course.
I’ve studied it as well. As far as it can be.
But, I mean, it’s something you do in a day or so.
wow.I’m really jealous about your intelligent views and outputs regarding the scientific evolution and theological studies you guys! I wish I could do the same but I don’t have a strong belief or interest in both.Until now,I attend three different religions simultaneously every sunday.and i can say both of my parents and a relative forced me to go to masses since i was younger.probably they think that the more religion i attend the more holiness i will become,but that was just my hunch.what i know is that evolution theories are just stories to answer the curious mind of people just like how religion invent their own version of the story and forced feed it to the people.all of these religion have clashed beliefs and teachings that i really stop believing to each anymore.i honestly just go to church to mingle with friends,ramp my outfit,and eat food.would i be consider dumb if i can’t contribute to this kind of topic?
I don’t think JYP is spending his time to thinking about this though, i am more convince he just want people to believe that he is a deep person.
The difference is that evolution is based in science whereas creationism is based on a fictional book without the slightest evidence to back it up.
If you think the two are of equal merit, i dont really know what to say.
they’re not,I just don’t care about it that much…
Eh. The mm can ‘study’ whatever he wants. Doesn’t affect me or my personal life. No offense IAFTB, but this article was kinda pointless. It was way too vague and basically fodder for the million who read this site to get into a flame war.
*the man
*IATFB
amen to that
god gave us gift of free will.
we should not judge each other based on that.
santorum 2016
Good luck with that
LOL, Here we go….
Well he is right in a way. Everyone has the right to believe what they want, so whats the point in getting stressing about it?
Uh, duh!? I was referring to the Santorum thing!
…..Cheese and fucking crackers….
Ah thought you were talking about “god gave us gift of free will”. In that case I agree, guy is a fucking dork.
I would do everything in my power to prevent that man to screw up anything that’s already is. Then again that’s goes with every politician…
Oh god yeah, Mitt’s a snake, santorum’s a dork, and newts an old timer who can’t keep his mind or his dick straight. Only one who I’d vote for is Ron Paul.
“we should not judge each other based on that.
santorum 2016″
kind of a paradox, no?
What’s vague about what he said?
Not what he said. Well now that I think about yeah, cause who the hell knows what studying is to him. But to me the way you wrote it confused me. But thats just the way it seemed to me. I’m more of a ‘get to the point’ kinda person.
I wrote a sentence on it.
How much more to the point can it be?
Well it’s clear to me now, but te first time I was confused between what you said in the comments and what you said in the article. But at first I was confused whether you took a neutral or opposing view on Christianity.
lol all you discussing over some crappy translation, when you should be faping over this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nHS-et45oOw
Oooh, I needed that. I swear heated debates like this make me feel like I have menopause already. Let’s get back to the sex stuff again.
I’ve noticed that some South Korea, aside from being the most christian east asian country, houses some very weird religious followings.
100000 years of pagan religion. brief period of buddism, even more brief period of christianity.
christianity has fared rather well in korea. although the fanaticism found in the paganism has crept its way into korean’s version of chrisitanity.
It has always puzzled me why religious people think that this:
All-powerful being —> Universe
is a more believable explanation than just this:
Universe
As an atheist, I always get this incredibly stupid question from religious people: “How can you look around at all this amazing stuff in the universe and say that it ‘just happened’?”
That question is so devoid of logic that it hurts my brain. Why is it more believable for an all-powerful, infinitely complex god to “just happen” into existence and then create the universe than for the universe to “just happen” without some dude creating it first?
They’re actually adding to the complexity of the explanation. Both atheists and religious people believe the same thing, really. Religious people are just adding one more unnecessary step to the explanation. They’re saying god “just happened” and then created the universe. If the universe is so amazing that you can’t believe that it evolved naturally on its own, then how the hell could you believe that a god, who must be at least as amazing and complex as his creation, “just happened” into existence without another creator creating him first? And then you start down the endless loop of “who created god?, and who created his creator?, etc”.
It will always end with the same result: all of this shit “just happened”, whether a god was involved or not.
Believing it all happened without some judgmental, vindictive, invisible man in the sky involved, makes a million times more sense.
Plus, if you really understand how natural selection works over time (which even most educated people don’t), you understand exactly how all the seemingly “impossibly complex” things in our universe evolve out of complete randomness.
The beauty of natural selection and everything that comes with it is that everything up to this point has been a result of random chance and luck. Creationists think that humans are an “end-game” product, but the fact of the matter is that we’re simply a by-product of the universe “happening.” There’s no meaning to anything; this is just one of the infinite scenarios that could have evolved over time.
Thank you. At least there’s someone here who has an ounce of sanity.
I’m fine with religions whatever people want to believe in, but can you tell those Jehovah witnesses to stop ringing my doorbell to convert my Buddhists family. I mean we already believe in something wtf man and Buddhism is more of a philosophy, a way of living than a religion. What other religion still tries to convert people?
btw creationist are the same people that thought earth was flat and that the sun revolved around us so.. figure which one actually makes sense.
Uhhh….unlike now, people in the middle ages and renaissance didn’t have a satellite to tell them otherwise, and the only way you could ever see that the earth was round was if you were at sea for years. Only thing I blame creationists for is fucking up the way sex is viewed
That’s retarded, creationist don’t believe in science so they would have never had satellites. Look back in time we lost 500 years of advancing technology due to Christianity.
Btw creationists go to hospitals but aren’t hospitals and doctors all based on science? bam..
Yeah…just by the first two words I can tell you’re obviously not in the mood for being anything other than a condescending dick, so not gonna waste my time on this.
LOL are you kidding me?
How is saying the idea that creationists would have NASA, hospitals, computers not retarded? They’re solely based on science which creationists wanted nothing to do with. This is facts of history I’m saying here yet you avoid answering me with I’m a “condescending dick”? Don’t mistake my confidence for being condescending because all I’ve said were facts, if you can disprove me then go right ahead I’m listening, but I don’t see you doing that now do I?
“and the only way you could ever see that the earth was round was if you were at sea for years.”
Incredibly false.
Mathematicians knew the earth was a sphere about a thousand years preceding Columbus and Magellan by using geometry and different mathematic perspectives.
I was talking about the average person in medieval and renaissance times. All of that previous knowledge from Greece and Roman times had been lost after the Romans fell to invaders. I don’t think it was ‘retarded’ (-.-) for a person of that time to think the earth was flat and the earth was the center of the universe. Incredibly wrong? Oh hell yeah. But I can understand why they thought that way.
I was pointing out the inaccuracy concerning what people knew.
Average people did know the world was round by the age of Columbus because the teachings of Greek philosophers were never lost.
The heliocentric theory also caught on in early 16th century too.
And said that was retarded. ._.
Really? Didn’t know they already knew that. I knew sailors back then knew it since they saw the earth’s curvature when boats were coming from beyond the horizon. I was going on the assumption that after the fall of the roman empire, the average European couldn’t read. Interesting. And yeah hate that word. My brother’s autistic, and it really irks me when someone uses it in that context. Using the word retarded and gay to describe things are both ignorant, in my opinion.
Sorry, that was supposed to say ‘And I wasn’t the one that said that was retarded.”
Yeah I know that was more or less directed at people who use it in general.
People who believe in intelligent design and those who believe in evolution both act like smug douchebags, so in my opinion all of them can fuck off. It’s all about the aliens, baby!
Except that evolutionists have credit to be smug because they have to ‘deal’ with brainwashed creationist zealots.
Not really. Having to “deal” with other douches is no excuse for being a douche.
You tend to be smug when you have evidence on your side.
I understand where evolutionists come from, but if someone uses the word ‘retarded’, it gives me the impression that they’re immature. And I’m not going to waste the time have on this earth and getting myself stressed by arguing with someone like that. That’s all.
>One evolutionist in this thread uses the word retarded.
>All arguments of others are invalid.
Fact is that this turned into a petty argument on racism, not creationism. Also, I’m one for people believing in what they want, but it is just disappointing watching famous people like JYP publicly announce this to a country renowned for its education.
Bottom line: if creationism had any validity there would be no issue about teaching it in public schools.
The comment way about why I didn’t continue arguing with hunny. If he(or she) had expressed his thoughts in a different way, then maybe I would have discussed more. Not saying all other arguments are invalid, I’m just not interested in debating about it. I could tell he set in his opinion as I am in mine, so talking about it would have been really boring. Haven’t talked with any of the others cause again, not interested. No need to get mad :)
Not mad, just trying to inject my opinion.
I also have a family member with mental retardation (though not autism) so I hold the same feelings about the word ‘retarded’ being used as an insult. Not much you can do, though. Some people just won’t understand the impact of the word because they do not have the same experiences as others.
Yeah, just whenever someone uses that word, it brings up bad memories of when we were younger and kids would call him that. I know that not everybody has the same experience, but the emotional aspect of it is just really strong so it’s hard.
I remember those hosts/interviewers, whatever they are. They used to do a show with one of my baby daddies Cha In Pyo. BTW owns me 3 months of child support. I guess I have to find and threat his ass again.
Ikr? He’s a fine bowl of kimchi alright.
I wish he would elaborate MORE on this so I can laugh harder.
We are all made of stars – Moby
Wow your reading and comprehension skills are lacking,did you skip some grades or something. I said in my reply that one isn’t inherently racist but that racism is learnt.
You are a prime example of what i am talking about and your comments on that blackface article and here are indicative of that.I bet you are one of those who cry ‘reverse racism’ or dont believe that white privilege exists,you did deny that there was slavery in Briton because the slave trade isnt slavery. O.o
this comment was in response to Nana.
Well we will just wait and see if anyone else chimes in…One person already replied in the same way I did to your statement.
and its not reverse racism, its simply racism.
white privilege definitely exists.
there were no slaves in britain. british ships were involved in the atlantic trade but they were also the ones that ended it.
as for blackface, i never once said it isnt racist. I said its not ALWAYS done with racist intent.
the funniest thing about this whole situation is that on another large site that i post on, im seen as a dick because i always call people out on their racism :rofl: and yet you believe im racist..its quite amusing.
I think everyone’s born racist whether you’re black, white, yellow or brown it’s natural instinct for us humans to protect ourselves but then when we grow up we learn to control our emotions and accept others to overcome our fear that is different races.
liley: “This idea that people who believe in God are morons is like me saying all white people are racist (well)”
What nana says is that you were being racist with this comment, i don’t think that. When you put “(well)” that implies that you were being a little prejudice against white people. Racism and being prejudice are two totally different things. One Kills One Dislikes.
nana: “ignorant religious morons”
You have a prejudice against creationists we can all see that but calling them all ignorant is pretty ignorant. You can say “most ignorant religious morons” as that doesn’t mean every single one of them and it’s less derogatory.
It all stemmed with this comment:
“I don’t get the ridiculing, he said he is studying both evolution and intelligent design. Where is the problem with that?”
A. The problem with studying evolution “and” intelligent design is that they both contradict each other in every other possible way. It’s either one or the other. There are no mutual agreements within each other that supports one another. Evolution uses proof/evidence such as millions of year old bones with the same species to support their ideas, intelligent designs uses a book written thousands of years ago. There’s your answer.
hunny,
1. that is not the part of her statement that i found racist. that alone would have been fine as she is simply using it as an example. It was later, when she went on to justify how EVERY time a person of colour spoke to a white person about race, the INHERENT racism of the white person was shown….that is the part of her posts i took issue with.
2. You can call my opinion dickish or whatever..but its not ignorant to believe that creationists are ignorant. I do think creationists are morons but thats not what i said in my post. I said he avoided offending the ignorant religious morons. Not that ALL religious people are ignorant morons.
anyway im done..liley is racist, i have no wish to even acknowledge her existence.
wont reply again ^^
OH NO,WHAT WILL I DO NOW THAT YOU DONT WANT TO TALK TO ME?MY LIFE IS OVER!!
Called you out on your white privilege a long time ago dude.
I would disagree that we are born racist. I think that there definately is a certain pack/tribe mentality that we are all born with for protection, but it depends upon who we are taught belongs to that tribe/pack.
I grew up in an area where my own race were in the minority, I didn’t naturally gravitate to the few people only of my own race, because I didn’t really ever view it as an issue. It was only as I got older that I discovered that others seemed to find skin colour such a defining factor.
I doubt you will find a naturally racist child, it’s all about imprinting, if a child grows up only having contact with and knowing a certain race, then yes they will most probably trust people of this race more. But that is a behaviour and mindset which is learnt and developed through environment. It is not instinctual to be racist.
I actually agree with you. Just look into the average classroom in America and you’ll see it. Black students sit together with other black students, white students sit with other white students, etc. Of course theres always exceptions, like of you see someone you know, you’ll obviously sit by them, regardless of race. My mother is deaf and she says that in deaf classes it you’ll see all the students sitting together, regardless of race. In her words, they’re all deaf, so they don’t need to separate since they already have something in common with each other, and they already have a strong bond with each other because of that.
@JJ. I agree that people tend to gravitate towards people they have the most in common with, will feel comfortable with. I just don’t think that a child is born racist, only trusting one race and hating another. That behaviour is taught.
The students in the average american school have already been exposed to many environmental and societial factors which have shaped their thinking. Parents, peers, the media, films, music which have shaped how they identify themslves and also others. They were not born with these particular mindsets it is something they have acquired, learning from those around them.
Once such mindsets are developed this combines with natural pack/tribe mentality and results in segregation and in extreme cases racism.
Your mother’s deaf class actually proves my point. I argued that there is a natural pack mentality but it is society which teaches us what that pack is. For your mother and the class deafness is a large, defining factor in there lives, so it is this which brings them together regardless of race.
Yep. Exactly right.
I think it’s hard to define whether humans are naturally racists or not.
Yes, in a classroom or group setting, you naturally gravitate towards those in the same group type as you, e.g. male, female, race, others. Not that you don’t socialize with others too, yes, we do, because it’s interesting/ exciting to know more about other cultures/ ways of thinking.
But if I were to pick my best friend or partner, I think it is diffcult – not impossible – to pick someone different from you in outlook, background, lifestyle, etc. Lots of melting pot and tolerance needed from both parties.
It might be easier to just go with someone who is not so different from you so that everything falls into place easily and there is the underlying common understanding between both parties, which leads to closeness as well.
Yeah, should’ve said I agreed to an extent. Racism would entitle an actual hatred, I think.
racism generates hatred.but isn’t it because you guys wants to categorized things from this to that?why not think that all of us are human beings and not a white,black,brown,yellow,or even purple coated people?it is easier to mingle with people if you just think of them as a person and not an alien.
Its more of a comfort thing. Sticking to what you’re comfortable with. It’s hard to get out of that zone.
people can,they just don’t want to.then they will be butthurt if other’s do the same to them.
Depends on the person I guess.
@liley.
Your statement “All white people are racist(well.)” could be viewed as racist as you are saying that all people of a certain race possess this negative characteristic.
However, in the context of your argument. I understood that you were claiming this was a ridiculous assumption (minus “well”). Assuming that all religious people are ignorant = ridiculous. Assuming all white people are racist = ridiculous.
But, in the next post you then appeared to be arguing that the all white people are racist argument was actually valid, or near enough valid based upon your own experiences. Therby undermining your entire argument.
In terms of racism being learnt. I agree completely. I also agree that there are alot of people who are ignorant to racism and prejudice, as they themselves haven’t encountered or witnessed it. Or they just don’t want to see it. However, just because someone is ignorant of prejudice or racism it does not mean that they themselves are racist and prejudiced, just ill informed.
In your experience the white people you have discussed the issue of race with have been perhaps flippant and dismissive, but it does not then follow that your singular experiences should serve as a damning definition of the thoughts and behaviour of an entire race. That is racist.
What i was arguing was that someone not being racist and in this case it being white people,can be easily disproven,that is what Nana said.My argument is that it cannot, race is too complex an issue to say someone not being racist can be proven easily.Just because someone says ‘i have black friends’ does not mean they are not racist or have some prejudiced views about black people.And how many instances of people saying something messed about and then you hear ‘i am not racist,i like so and so people’.
Funny because we just had this big scandal in my country where this model (white) called this guy she claimed sexually harassed her a ‘kaffir’ which in my country is the equivalent of the N-word but the difference is we black people in my country dont EVER use that word,oh and she also called him an ‘African monkey’,when she was called out on her racism she claimed she only said that in anger and that she isn’t like that.
link to the article http://bit.ly/JxBnPl
Maybe that is all you guys need to prove someone isn’t racist but in my eyes it isn’t that easy,people know how to say the right things so they don’t appear racist.
im weak, i cant stay away..
doesitmatter expressed the point far better than I did…
the easily disproven generalisation was that ALL white people are racist. It has nothing to do with singular white people.
You say all white people are racist
I go out and find one non racist white person and there, disproven.
Its fine for you to say that its hard to prove one individual is not racist..but it is not hard to prove that an entire race of people is not racist. Do you see where i was coming from now?
and incidentally, the owner of this site, a professional writer, has backed me up about your word usage.
So it seems it was a mistake in your writing rather than downright racism on your part. Unless of course you really do believe that all white people are racist…
The very first sentence of your reply highlights the problem here – someone = singular, white people = millions.
The fact that you then went on to cite a one particular occurence of racism in your country in order to prove your point just shows you don’t understand what exactly I’m taking issue with.
There are blatantly racist people, there are racist people who are very good at hiding it, there are racist people who don’t even realise that they are being racist. But you must accept that there are also people who aren’t racist. And some of those people are white.
If you do accept this, then I fail to understand why you keep bringing up individual cases of whites being racist or prejudice and acting like these individual cases make it difficult to prove an entire race isn’t racist.
Anyway, to be honest I think enough of this thread has been taken up with this. I initally came here to be entertained by the concept of JYP trying to seem deep and intelligent and then immediately disproving it by giving creationism the time of day.
Goodnight and good luck! :)
Yahh,,,this is exactly what happen in my mind when those religion’s teaching clashed up..
meanwhile JYP is busy wondering why he looks like a decade late of evolution and consoling himself that the omnipotent creates a special disco castle for him in afterlife..just guessing
LOL Yes! I was thinking about the same thing about him. He must be pressed about “Why do I look like the one before the modern human?”
Actually I think he will definately plump for evolution.
It’s probably more comforting to think of yourself even as an evolutionary mistake than imagine an intelligent being cursing you with that face on purpose.
i thought before that he has a unique face but i just stumble on a teenager early this day that looks exactly like him.i was so flabbergasted,i chat with him even though i don’t know him,,he is not korean though,,i’m still amazed,,i wonder if there’s a lot like him in this world?
@Queen Bey
It would be so awesome if there will be an army of J-why-P dancing on your “Who run the World” song!!!yes,the world may notice k-pop now!!!
Oh Lord, I would denounce my title as a singer and move to Borneo or somewhere.
rofl
lol
“Evidence” has nothing to do with it. :)) It’s like me saying oh I’m so much better than you because I like the color purple, and you like the stupid color beige. Doesn’t make much sense.
No.
One is like gravity, where there’s evidence it exists. The other is like believing the world is flat, which requires complete suspension of science and logic.
Believing in God and believing in creationism is not the same.
1. Not going to get into that racism clusterfuck that’s going on up there.
2. I don’t care if you believe in the cookie monster controlling the universe, just keep it to your fucking self.
3. This is kinda OT but I thought South Korea is a mostly secular country, even with the conservative tendency in Korean culture? Last time I checked atheists/non-religious people made up for more than half of the population. But I could be getting my facts mixed up. However I think religious groups have a certain amount of power in government/media or else that Lady Gaga thing wouldn’t have happened?
or that he might be trying to look deep to his fans -_-
Does anyone know what the opinion and general image of JYP as an artist is within Korea?
Is he viewed as being credible musically? Or a desperate, deluded has-been riding the coat-tails of younger, popular artists in an attempt to seem relevant?
Do his songs actually do well?