
Perfume has their sights set on America, which is awesome, because that has worked out so well for other Asians who’ve made the attempt.
Oh wait, no, they’ve all flopped harder than if Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, LeBron James, and Dewayne Wade combined to form a flopping All-Star team.
The catalyst for the group’s management company, Amuse, to break Perfume away from previous label Tokuma Japan Communications and sign up with the world’s largest major came last spring, when “Polyrhythm,” the group’s signature single, was used on the soundtrack for the Pixar movie “Cars 2.” The three young women and their staff attended the film’s world premiere in Los Angeles — and were astounded by the reception they received.
“As we were walking the red carpet, some American fans were screaming ‘Perfume! Perfume!’ ” recalls A-chan, with her eyes wide; she speaks the most in interviews and while there’s no officially acknowledged leader, she’s clearly the driving force. “I was like, ‘Why do you even know who we are?!’ One man — a large, older guy — gave me his bandana, which he said he’d worn constantly for eight years, and a DVD he’d made about his undying love for us. We’d never released anything outside of Japan and we were signed to a domestic label, so those fans could only have known us through the Internet.”
1) Holy shit, that dude creeps me the fuck out.
2) It amazes me how ignorant Japanese artists are towards their international fanbase. It’s like their companies purposely keeps them completely unaware of any following outside of Japan.
3) Why does going international have to mean wasting time in America?
Ah yes, God bless the Internet. While preparing for this interview, I sent a message over Twitter to canvass Perfume’s fans for questions. An avalanche of responses came from all over the world — the United States, Europe, Brazil, Indonesia and so on. The Internet has helped spread Perfume’s fragrance far and wide — but the trio themselves say they had no idea of their impact.
It’s as if Japanese companies purposely don’t want to be popular internationally or something. Their draconian regulation and poor marketing acumen make it so that even if fans wanted to love them, they have to put in extra work to do so.
Probably the dumbest thing ever.
The artists themselves are blind, deaf, and dumb to all of this, apparently. Needless to say, it probably works out perfectly for the company.
“I don’t intend to change the essential creative part of Perfume,” he says, noting that although he would like to eventually use overseas producers, he has no intention of sending Nakata packing. “I don’t want them to lose their Japan-ness.”
Consider the Koreans. K-pop as a genre has become a talking point in Japan and in the West, thanks largely to a concerted effort to adapt to target cultures. Working with international producers and singing in Japanese here and English over there, groups such as Kara, Girls’ Generation and Big Bang have managed to integrate and sell records — but does this mean they don’t sound Korean anymore?
A-chan doesn’t think so.
In Japanese, they’re okay, but in English? Absolutely they lose sight of everything they worked to accomplish.
Korean artists coming to America trash everything that made them successful, and then they try to adapt to American trends even more than they already have. The result is try-hard American pop music that quickly becomes a reality check for them because now that they sound exactly like American pop music, and are thus compared on the same scale, the true talent level gets exposed (this is where comparing themselves to America’s best ends up going badly, because they aren’t even the best in Korea/Japan).
All of this worked out so well for BoA, Se7en, Wonder Girls, and Jin Akanishi, so why not Perfume, right? Yeah…
Perhaps the most blatant example of what I’m talking about is Utada Hikaru, who completely imploded her Japanese style and came out with this abortion of a video:
Sweet. Your career just jumped off the Empire State Building.
“The Korean language sounds really cool, and K-pop artists do that thing where they repeat one word over and over, which is really appealing,” she says. “I think the Japanese language has that sort of appeal, too. It has a particular sound, a cuteness and a femininity. So I hope that people can hear us as part of a wider Asian sound.”
I think she just inadvertently trolled K-pop by pointing out that one-word trend.
“I’d love to play a concert overseas,” muses Nocchi, the ice-cool one, who speaks the least during the interview. “I think our music is really cool, but we also take great pride in our live performance, so I’d love people to see our show, and I’d love for us to be able to meet those fans at the concert venue.”
This isn’t just a pipe dream; it’s actually on the cards. After five years of domestic chart domination, in February Perfume finally took its first steps toward going global, signing to Universal Japan and making its 2011 album “JPN” and recent single “Spring of Life” available on the iTunes Store in 50 countries around the world.
An overseas push requires an investment of time and resources — an investment that few Japanese agencies have so far been willing to make. Putting the songs on the global iTunes Store is a step in the right direction, but if it isn’t followed by another step, Perfume’s overseas ramble could be cut short.
Ugh.
I understand the Asian obsession with conquering the American market (“ZOMG WE CONQUERED AMERICAZ”), but I don’t get why they fail to realize that it’s an exercise in futility as things currently stand, and forcing foreign pop music onto Americans isn’t going to do anything to change that.
Perfume don’t need to force themselves on America directly. The road to international relevance for them has already been mapped out by Korean groups, as the way to branch out is through the Internet.
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People internationally already know of Perfume, so just think how many more would know if their dumbass company would stop pulling down every performance, audio track, music video, and anything associated with them from YouTube, Dailymotion, and other sites.
With access, a fanbase naturally expands, and yes, that includes America.
To me, the biggest failure of Japanese companies in the marketing of their own groups is the complete rejection of the Internet as a means of cheap international exposure, and until that changes, they’ll continue to stifle the popularity of their own groups and have nobody to blame for it but their own incompetence.
Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
…I don’t think I could listen to Perfume if Nakata didn’t compose/produce their songs. He’s the reason I listen to Perfume.
Obviously. :o
WATCHU SAY ABOUT THE WONDER GIRLS? jks jks
JE does the same crap with Arashi and to think that I would’ve never known about Arashi or J-Dramas a couple of years ago when they were all over YouTube is kind of insane.
I have to wonder why so many J-Pop companies refuse to even create a YT account and release their videos there as well. They could profit a bit from those views so why not?
They think it takes away from sales.
Most of the jpop companies that do have youtube only post half the videos. It’s so aggravating.
I wonder how ecstatic they would be if they heard that one of their songs played on American Dad.
Lol. In all honesty that’s the only reason I heard of them from before. I was watching that episode and I looked up the song.
Ditto.
I fucking hate Japanese companies for not putting Jpop shit on YT. Even the Jpop shit I upload get taken down after one night.
It make no fucking sense crippling yourself….
When Jpop artists go oversea too, they say stuffs like “We didn’t know we have oversea fans” which is the dumbest shit ever because they do and they don’t even fucking try to cater to those fans!!
Now rant over, Perfume might not make it..it’s too hard.
Well in Japan fans pay for music videos. Pretty much everything artist do there is for profit. So if they allows international fans uploads to remain on Youtube, Japanese fans might go “why keep paying for this sh*t when it’s up for free?” It’s all about exclusiveness and loyalty over there and apparently the system works since very few people pirate music and people can still sell a million in a week.
Physical sales are cratering.
AMEN
Actually, Perfume does have an official YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Perfume
But there is a catch: most of the music videos are not presented in their entirety.
…wtf.
I love Perfume, but we all know this won’t end well.
The artists who have official YouTube channels only upload the short versions. So basically previews only.
Fucking useless.
I don’t think that trying to adapt Asian pop to foreign markets is ever going to work. All it seems to do is alienate the existing core fan base – even the foreign ones that don’t speak the language.
For instance, I’m pretty sure almost all English-speaking SNSD fans would rather hear the Korean version of a song than the Engrish one. And I’m damn sure that the creepy old guy with the bandana doesn’t want Perfume to change their music, either.
American pop stars don’t sing in Japanese and Korean when they tour those countries and still manage to sell a bunch of concert tickets – why should it be any different in reverse?
K-pop and J-pop will almost definitely remain a niche genre in America. That doesn’t mean that this market isn’t worth reaching out to. You can still sell a bunch of concert tickets. Just give up the delusional dream of topping the Billboard charts.
There are plenty of very successful bands that made tons of money just catering to their niche market of hardcore fans through touring – without ever having a mainstream hit.
The Wonder Girls are the best recent example of the dangers of abandoning your core fan base to chase some foreign market. They lost a bunch of “market share” to other newer groups. Those groups now may face the same fate as the Wonder Girls as they spread themselves thin and put their efforts into rehashing songs for the Japanese and American markets while putting the core Korean market on the back-burner.
So far this year, I’d say the best stuff in K-pop has come from rookies (Ailee, Hello Venus, She’z, etc). These newer performers may not seem like a threat to the established groups right now. But if the currently-popular groups keep wasting their time trying to break into other markets, fans will gravitate to these newer upstart groups just like they did before.
Basically agree with everything you said.
:o
I pretty much agree with what you said. And as a wonderful I really understand that part the most. Sure im an american wonderful but like others have said id rather them sing it in korean than my own language. After all their language is what intrigued me in the first place to listen to it. I say stay true to yourself and the fans will come.
Why they think U.S. money is worthier than mine if I’m actually willing to pay for what U.S. mainstream consumers don’t give a fuck?
K-Pop and J-Pop entertaiment companies should think about international fans that already buy and listen albuns in original language.
And guess what? Sometimes they even aren’t asian descent and it doesn’t mean they’re all U.S. citizens either.
because your money won’t give them the recognition that they gain it from being a hot shot in America.even you probably pay more for their thing.
America= greatest country that represents the world
America is also a continent so it’s really frustating lives in America that’s not considerated at all.
Sorry, i’m in a bitter mood today.
what’s frustating lives? i google it but there’s no definition of it?is this a metaphor?
she meant it is frustrating for someone who lives in america not to be considered at all. I felt that same way when I started visiting english sites and all people who speak in english using “americans” for people from the U.S and “america” as U.S. I’m used to it now.
(because in other parts of America we use America to name the continent. United States is just a country of the continent)
AMERICA
FUCK YEAH
rofl….okay!!!
MAINSTREAM AMERICA(wherever part of United States of America that is….)=greatest country that represent the world!
hahaha…i really considered that america is only divided as south america and north america,thanks for reminding me that it is also composed of different countries just like the other continent!but you got to admit,this is also the mentality of other people outside the U.S.A! it’s like chinese represent asians to non asians,,heck, if there is no kpop,i will think koreans are chinese too..,,
I’m not racist though.,..i’m just giving off opinion about the general mentality of the society,it’s okay to inform me if I’m wrong!!!!
so don’t take my laugh as an insult…,,i’m just laughing at myself bec.
@Xu Czi Baby!
No problem bb! Matter of fact, it’s pretty common sense. Actually, it’s a perspective issue.
@laudenamberuan
Thanks for clarify my comment, my english isn’t good enough…yet.
For some reason, everytime I tried to repliy your comments something went wrong. =/
I think K-pop companies are doing extremely well marketing and involving their international fans. It’s the J-pop companies that don’t seem to give two fucks.
Also, the United States represents accomplishment because it is the marquee market. If you make it here, you can make it anywhere. Bragging rights and shit.
The only time I’ve seen a k-pop company act completely idiotic marketing-wise was with Sm restricting views in the US to their GirlsGenerationVevo. I’m sure they wonder why the videos have 10 views at most.
Seriously, how stupid can these people in charge be (though it could be musicjapan/universalmusic).
Wait, really?
I hope it’ll turn out well for their sake, but… I have a feeling it won’t.
I don’t really get why groups feel they have to conform to the country they’re promoting in. There isn’t a rule that says every artist who promotes in America has to sing in English. It’d be better to just do what made them popular in the first place. OTL
*it’ really frustrating living in Amreica that’s not…
hahaha sorry…
but Perfume’s songs repeat words as k-pop do too. In some even more than k-pop songs. Like Chocolate Disco o.O Only they sound like vocaloids. The thing is, if they in particular wouldn’t change their style, they would be made fun of in U.S.. they are too weird, and too different from what pop sounds like in western countries. Same for their choreographies. People would be like wtf. imo. The part where you said “even if fans wanted to love them, they have to put in extra work to do so” was so true, I fell for japanese artist a couple of times, but finding their songs, fanmade videos, subtitled videos, live performances, or even music videos is hard u.u and one of my favorite parts of k-pop are the choreographies and the hundreds of live performances you can watch.
Not really. It’s not “Chocolate Disco” over and over again like “Roly Poly” or whatever.
It’s not important to me whether they make it in America, it’s that changing their style alienates EVERYBODY. If they keep their style, they can expand their fanbase in America to a niche or something and then go back. If they change, then they’re fucked both ways.
This is the first article I read here at asian junkie and I gotta say I loved it. I kind of use to visit a lot allkpop, but this site reminds me of allkpop in their early years when their articles were actually funny, interesting and with strongs opinions, now they just translate, try to keep the site clean and avoid giving real opinions, that sucks
Thanks.
I actually started this site years ago back when allkpop was opinion based, but I only opened it again last year.
It’s fun.
J-pop marketing strategy fails terribly and K-pop over-hypes shit until you get sick of it.
I wonder if K-pop entertainers make more money than J-pop?
I feel bad for Perfume. I don’t think this is the way to go at all. At least not here in America. I say if you wanna go more international do what you said stop pulling stuff from youtube and other sites. Also I would try Europe first instead.
@contagious
Kpop and Jpop entertainer salaries are very similar, the only difference is, cost of living is much cheaper in Japan, since they have been experiencing constant deflation for the past 13 years.
Nope. Japan has I think the second biggest music market. Korea is barely a blip…this is why they are all flocking to Japan. Kpop artist make more money promoting in Japan that they do in Korea. If they stay in Korea….they make chump change compared to everywhere else.
Japan is also like 80% of the Kpop market…that’s where most of their money comes from..
http://i.imgur.com/nVOxT.png
Really.
But since it’s technically 少女時代 , it’s probably the workings of Japanese companies who might think they can make money by restricting views from the biggest youtube viewing country hoping they’ll buy the dvds with the MVs (I honestly have no idea what goes through their heads).
HAHAHA WTF