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The sexual assault scandal of Roo’ra‘s Go Young Wook is over, as police have determined that there’s insufficient evidence to proceed with the case.
The Seoul Yongsan Police Station stated on June 4, “All we have are statements from the female accusers who claim that they are victims of sexual assault. There is no objective evidence that validates these statements” and “There are no diagnostic reports of physical damage or records of psychological treatment. So we decided to put down the charges for sexual assault.”
Investigations were completed on May 29, and the police decided not to place Go Young Wook in physical detention.
I’d like to be able to give the benefit of the doubt to the police, but who knows?
Is physical evidence really the standard for going to trial in a case with three separate accusers? He already admitted to sexual intercourse with one accuser, which would seem to qualify as physical in nature. Besides, a lot of sexual assault cases will never have much, if any, physical evidence, but they usually don’t have multiple accusers stepping forward either.
If evidence like vaginal tearing and external wounds were the base requirement for a trial, the only way anybody would ever go to trial for rape is if it involved overt violence, the victim reported it immediately after, and the authorities did their jobs. Hell, it’s not even “evidence” they need, it’s “damage” they want to see.
Just seems a bit lax for such a serious offense, I guess.
oh alright, so they need a woman to get beaten up AND raped to be counted as rape? what bullshit…
Either that or like vaginal tearing or something.
So, first was “they didn’t say no enough” now is “they weren’t bruised enough”? Yeah fuck logic
Ok. Let’s go ahead and assume that prosecutors will go ahead and take it to court. Do you really think they would win? They have statements. Bloody statements for RAPE. Not statutory rape or something like that but for plain RAPE. I highly doubt a judge will go ahead and convict someone based on mere statements. Too many lives have been ruined these days by mere accusations and nothing more. Even this has already ruined Go Young Wook to a large degree.
i know what you mean, i was just thinking that their investigation took too little, and they never actually stated that they proved that the girls were lying or the opposite case, idk just seems kinda rushed to me
He already admitted to fucking a minor.
So … yeah.
I know that? I was just emphasizing that he was being tried for rape, not statutory rape. If they went for statutory rape then it would be an instant conviction.
Well if he admits to it, then evidence of intercourse exists, which would be enough for a trial in America going by our rape laws.
Just saying.
It could end up like the Kobe Bryant case where he admits to sex but is shown to be not guilty, but he did go to trial.
I wonder if I were able to get raped in Korea, but I fight the guy off (after saying no 20 times) and cause some physical damage (like a bruise or a cut, something minor), would I get jail time and he (the rapist) can press charges? Since I’m not Korean nor have a y-chromosome, I wonder what kind of consequences it would give me…
You’re getting put under the jail.
I’m joking by the way.
I probably would. He’d be like; “That foreigner tried to seduce me! She attacked me in a drunken rage after I politely refusing her offer! See?!! I got a bruise to prove it!” Or some crap like that.
lol…i watched that scene in vineyard man starring yoon eun hye..
Lol your comment made me think about that video about Korean women and foreign men.
Probably not, but I wouldn’t expect them to prosecute attempted rape.
Either the police figured out the girls were lying/wanted to ruin the guy’s life, or they let loose a sexual predator.
Id like to think that the girls are lying
It seems pretty standard, since you can’t do much with just he said/she said in a court case. You need physical evidence. That’s why rape cases are so difficult, even in western countries. Most girls wait too long out of fear or embarrassment, and then they have no evidence to prove that anything happened. That’s why if something happens, screw embarrassment call police and go to the hospital.
Yep – this is why they say do not get in the bath or clean yourself – go straight to the police or hospital. In the UK, the jury have to find someone guilty beyond all resonable doubt so in his case, he would not get convicted because we all know about the big question mark hanging over this case.
We’ve got loads of overpaid, oversexed footballers in our country and we see these cases all the time. I’m never sure what to believe.
Also, I think when the police talk of “reports of physical damage”, they are not saying whether she was beaten or not – I think they are just referring that she did not go to the hospital or police close to the time so they have nothing to back it up. He may well be a filthy pervert but perhaps not a proven law-breaking one.
Commonly an impossible standard since ritual cleaning again and again and again is basically standard operating procedure for the victim.
Not if there are enough victims or there are eyewitnesses.
Well there are some pretty fucking evil chicks out there so requiring no evidence to put innocent men in jail isn’t really fair. Not saying this Guy is innocent, its just his story seems more credible than hers. She fucked him more than once and got screwed over. Seems like sexual assault is a good way to get back at him.
I find it hard to believe that a girl would easily call rape if it isn’t in Asia.
The rape victim is shamed. Her family might be angry with her as the family name and honor is shamed. People, even her relatives will pretend to pity her but whisper behind her back that she behaved wantonly and perhaps asked for it to happen.
I am not saying it is right but it is the way some societies still are….
So are you agreeing or disagreeing w/ me I’m confused. It doesn’t matter if this is Asia or in Antarctica people as long as there’s anger, there is evil. She came out 1st saying she was screwed over or “he promised me to help w/ my career ” (via the reports)…. the whole case is a bunch of he say/she say so they can’t really hold anything against him but statutory rape which she could’ve also lied about her age.
Canto is right though. Korea is not all that sympathetic to sexual assault cases, at least compared to other areas. America used to be the same before feminism and what not.
You’re more likely to be immediately labeled a whore for bringing charges than get sympathy.
Disagreeing, you ninny! :-P I am kiddin…
I don’t disagree that many girls are evil or not innocent as they look.
But I just think he really did screw them, literally as well as figuratively. He is many years older and more experienced than them. He promised to make them into a star, perhaps pressurize them to have sex with them.
I don’t know whether they willingly slept with him or were coerced but if I were a girl in Asia, what would I get for making false accusations that I was raped. Money or pity or revenge would not recompense for what a rape victim would have to go through in society…
oh okay… I get where your coming from I just think she is bogus. Only way is to wait till this unfolds :)
Where did I say that? Just talking about the strict need for physical evidence. That excludes eye witness testimony, obviously.
A significant reason most of these cases never go to trial, especially in Asia, is because it doesn’t matter how many people come forward, it needs to be done immediately after the rape occurs or nothing ever gets done.
In Korea, the Jerry Sandusky case wouldn’t have even gone to trial until recently, it may today. Maybe.
Think you replied back to the wrong person but yeah the coach at Penn state university …I forgot about it. Did he get charged for doing those to the boys.
I might be a little iffy w/ this one if that case happened in asia because there were like over 30 counts of sexual abuse towards him + Plus there were boys and you know how much they admire their men. I wonder what would’ve happened to him.
Yes, he’s going to trial today, I believe.
A man raping another man wasn’t even recognized as rape in Korea until recently.
She fucked him the second time they met?
I don’t know too much about the Korean legal system, like whether or not it emphasizes letting the innocent go or keeping the guilty in. So, based on this I’m going to presume that it’s more of an innocence focused system. If so, I can’t really blame them. We’ve seen in America how lying bimbo’s have ruined many lives, for example, those lacrosse players from Duke. Is it better to let one innocent man and a hundred guilty men go to prison or to imprison a hundred innocent men and one guilty man?
hundred guilty men *go free*
It isn’t, it’s the opposite. I’m fairly certain that like Japan, they have something close to a 95%+ conviction rate. The fact that they chose not to prosecute is telling.
You sure about that? They have a presumption of innocence system. http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/eap/154389.htm check section e.
It may be written into the books but functionally, it doesn’t really work like that. The extremely high conviction rate would seem to allude to the fact that while those safeguards exist, they’re not being used effectively. Additionally the fact that this boy’s career is probably ruined just because of the allegations is telling of how they run things over there.
Also, that was a report published by the US State Department, they’re not about to go talk shit on the Korean government especially with so many troops over there and a strong alliance.
Are you serious? The state department isn’t just going to try and be politically correct and CHANGE or MAKE UP a whole portion of the Korean Constitution. The conviction rates alone don’t point towards a guilty focused system. Instead, according to Tom Ginsburg, prosecutors instead use discretion and don’t send to courts cases that might be acquitted and if the suspect may reform. Because of the discretion used by the prosecutors, there are a lot more sure cases of sure convictions. So based on that, I’m fairly sure it’s an innocence focused system. If someone is probably innocent, they don’t even take it to court out of hope of rehabilitation and reform.
CombatBaby has a point.
The conviction rates in Japan and Korea are astronomical.
Better to find out which men are innocent or guilty rather than not even bothering.
Is it necessarily? Going to trial stigmatizes the defendant when he may be innocent, incurs debt from lawyers and other fees, and other miscellaneous bad things. Prosecutors generally know when they can or cannot win a case. So if they see a case with a high chance of acquittal, then they just may let it go. However, the suspect may reform, knowing that he basically got lucky and that he shouldn’t do it again. While I know the flaws imbedded in this system such as corruption and such, I’m just playing the devil’s advocate.
He admitted to sexual relations and there are multiple accusers.
It’s worth seeing the evidence. They didn’t even go to court to see if their case was worth it, the police just threw it out.
I don’t even trust the justice system in America, much less in Asia. Japan and Korea have fucking major issues.
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Please stop buffing girls young enough to be your daughter – you will only get yourself into trouble.
Yours sincerely,
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I agree that accusations alone should not be enough evidence to charge someone with rape.
You need at least SOMETHING else besides that. Otherwise, think of how easy it would be for someone (or some group of people) to ruin an innocent person’s life just by saying a few words. Or use it to blackmail them.
I know that some people have been convicted of crimes based on little more than accusations, but it shouldn’t be that way.
Right.
They had an admittance of sexual relations and multiple victims.
Yeah whatever. I don’t give a shit if there was no “physical damage”…those girls were underage. That is rape..even if they laid down and open their legs in invitation. It’s rape. Because a minor by law cannot give consent. Statutory rape. He would have been charged.
But that’s in my country. Korea’s rape laws a bullshit. If the girl was drunk..even if you gave her the drink…and you rape her…you don’t get chraged with Rape…because of course the girl was drunk so it’s her fault. Korea’s entire system is based o the assumption that the only way a womem is raped is if some random jumps her in a back alley, beats her up and rapes her….every other scenario..this happens, because the assumption is that it is the girls fault because she should have been more careful or is a whore who asked for it.
Whatever. He is a predator that preys on underage little girls and know he can get away with it because the system protects him. He’s on my list.
Nah, if he raped a drunk chick while he was sobor, he would still have been charged given sufficient evidence..The get out of jail free card is the rapist being drunk. Thats what works.
I do think that a lot of you are seriously delusional about maturity. ‘Underage little girls’? Really?
On this site we like to think we arent victims of the korean drama rose tinted glasses syndrome and that we can see korea for what it really is…and not how its portrayed in the dramas..but for some reason, if a guy sleeps with an underage girl, shes some pure innocent flower and hes a devil.
Newsflash…there are LOTS of korean girls who are underage and extremely calculating and often use their looks to get what they want. They know exactly what they are doing. ESPECIALLY someone who is outside of the normal education stream, IE someone who wants to become a star.
and thats not even touching on the subject of lying about age.
Not sure that makes it any more or less morally right if we’re talking about statutory rape.
It’s a crime specifically BECAUSE of their age regardless of what they THINK they want.
No, but to act as though the chick is some kind of angel who has been horribly violated against her will is not really fair.
yes he is a devil bec.he is mature and he knows more.he is 38 okay!he can be her dad!how many pussies he dug in before the girl was born?presumably there were lying bitches out there,he is the adult one so dont you think he didnt know how to play their game?oh wait,look!he played it well.that’s why the charges are dropped.
You seem unable to grasp my point. Im not saying a grown man banging an underage chick is right. Im simply saying that the underage chick isn’t always super innocent like everyone is pretending.
^ Yep, but even though if the little girl might be a bitch and a slut, but he’s a grown ass man. He should know how the game goes, if he doesn’t, he shouldn’t be surprised to what would happen from digging on prepubescent coochie.
Not prepubescent, I meant adolescent….But yeah, he’s still a grown man…and all that.
Of course, we all went to high school and we know how teenagers act.
Just saying that the law is that way for a reason.
Okay. So if some 30 something year old man sleep with your 14 year old daughter…but he comes back and says..eh whatever she wanted it because she wanted me to make her famous. And basically she just slutty…you would be okay with that?
Or would you be one of those parents that only okay with this is it’s someone else’s child?
So what is the cut off age for innocence? 12? Is that good. 12 or less…but anything after that..eh…they are probably not innocent anyway, so if some grown man messes with them…that”s their own damn fault. Is that good/fair? Just asking so I can get it straight.
There are laws to protect minors for a reason.
This girl was 17 wasn’t she? 14? No.
and what the guy says after the fact isn’t really what I’m getting at.
if my daughter was 17 and had been training and wanting to get into the celeb world for a few years. She targeted a guy in the business and seduced him. It still wouldn’t be ‘ok’ for him to bang her..but she sure as fuck couldn’t be described as some poor innocent flower.
Just because a girl is slightly underage doesn’t mean she’s supremely innocent. There are dirty fucking whores who are underage too you know.
one of the other two victims is allegedly 14 y/o.when you are not in a mature age,your decisions are not good enough you know,,that’s why there were parents to guide you.you mean to say if you have a daughter who wants to enter entertainment business and you know things like this may happen you wont do anything for her?
Ummm so when you start talking to somebody do you pull out your photo I.d for proof of age…sorry for the sarcasm it’s in my blood…but it isn’t really hard to lie about your age. Again, I am NOT saying he is innocent.
I strongly believe that a person shouldn’t be convicted because a 17 or 16 year old knows God damn well by now what the hell is wrong or right. And besides this chick was old…just 1 year or some months under the legal age for sex.
It was stated in previous articles that he was aware of their age.
So I’m not getting your question.
But yeah..sure..be a 30 something year and old and go sleep with a 16 year old and when you get pickup up for statutory rape..tell them she asked for it and was willing so what’s the problem. Sure. Good luck with that.
They have arrested 18 year old boys for sleeping with 16 year old girls..and they served jail time and are forever on the sex offender registry. So I’m sure in America this 30 year old man would be let of because the girl was willing..sure.
People don’t have to say he is innocent..the fact that all I see in articles like this are excuses for the guy and theories on why these girls might be the ones that are the bad guys and slutty…just demonstrates further why so many rapes go unreported and why many males feel they can get away with it.
And just for the record for all the: “slutty girls lie all the time” people. Do you know the percentage of rape charges are false?
2 to 8% of all rape charges. So that means at least 92% to 98% of the time that a girl brings a charge of rape….her claims are shown to be valid.
And ya’ll can look that up.
But..yeah…whatever. I’m pretty sure I’m not the one that is living in a fantasy world.
I’m done with this topic. Never opening up a thread like this again it’s too rage inducing.
Since this has gotten out of topic and region I’m going to address this just once.
Lets get things straightened out
1.) Yong Wook says he did not know of her age vs. Female told him she was a high school drop out. Bunch of he say/she say we don’t know if it is fact or fiction so it cannot be used to counter my argument.
2.) Since you are talking about America “No.” In 12 AMERICAN states, if a man who was 30 years old had sex with an 18 year old it is not a felony because that person is of age to consent.
-30 states agree to 16+ yr old for consent
-9 states agree to 17+ yr old for consent
-12 states agree to 18 yrs
*different circumstances apply for each state and age. I’m not getting into it anymore details because its a lot of surrounding info.
3.) That boy who was 18 who sexed a 16 year old is agreeable. But that is only because of the state he lived in. Keep in mind there is a difference between state laws and federal laws. So what may have happened to him in Georgia (17 yr old convicted of fornication for sexing a 16 yr old may not have had the same outcome in other states.) Again, different scenarios and circumstances applies.
4.) The chick is 18 years old, high school drop out who told Young Wook lets go some place quiet after meeting with him in public (which may not necessarily mean his apartment but it phrases like that means your most likely thinking of something kinky.)
http://ph.omg.yahoo.com/news/four-main-points-in-the-ko-young-wook-062032334.html
5.) I am a female so it would be really dumb for me to play the sexual orientation card. No I’m not Asian so you can try playing the race card. Being male or female does not stop me from being objective and stating my opinions. I wouldn’t think she was a smut because she just simply slept with him. I think she was whore because she met with him privately and tried to use underhanded methods to become a celebrity without relying on her talents. Yes I think she is lying. You are generalizing my thoughts on this case with other rape cases and that’s not what i was saying at all.
6.) Please site your references because I find your statistics are pure baloney. Assuming you are still talking about America since you did not state otherwise. The U.S Census Bureau stated in 2009 there was a reported 81,280 cases of rape reported. (75,720 were forcible, 5,560 were attempted). The percentage is 29.80 or 30% out of every 100,000 people. That means close to 30,000 out of 100,000 people reported rape. For female it was 52.3% or 52% reported. So 52,000 reported. This did not include males. Anyway, I couldn’t find anywhere that it said 92% – 98% of the perpetrators are convicted or the cases are valid. In fact, there are only hypothetical guesses but no set #’s or factual statistics on false rape accusations since rape is one of the hardest crimes to prove.
* I did find however that WITH EVIDENCE ( tissue tears, assault, semen etc), the stats that you provided fit in and almost all the perpetrators can be convicted.
And YOU can look that up
So I Welcome you to the REAL World and I am done with you since you can’t have a civil discussion without getting angry.
I do wonder how a situation will play out had a girl report as soon as she was raped (like really raped, not really talking about this situation) Just wanna know how the prosecution will go and such and what would be considered ‘physical damage/evidence.’ But not every victim gets beat up or go to therapy due to rape so… yeah. It’s not like every person reacts the same exact way when they’re raped.
But here.. I dunno. I’m guessing the girls reported within that 1 year time frame but obviously they have to have some kinda evidence/damage. But still, if they were underage does that still count for something? Well, I do know in the US he would be on the sex offender list if anything… but yeah. I got mixed feelings about the people involved in this anyway too..
yes.bec.police expected the victim not to be traumatized and just always calm and brave to go to the police station and announce that she’s been violated and be ready to spend money on trials and become humiliated in the process.