Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
So in case you haven’t heard yet, 2NE1‘s “I Love You” was played on BBC Radio 1, which allkpop gleefully pointed out.
Earlier today, 2NE1‘s newest hit single “I Love You” was heard playing on the radio airwaves in England through British national radio station ‘BBC Radio 1‘.
Although the song is in Korean, the English radio station played the track through their radio show “#R1Review Show with Edith“.
The BBC Radio 1 Official Facebook page recently put up a poll asking listeners, “What track do you love the most on tonight’s #R1Review Show with Edith?” As of this writing, 2NE1 was leading the poll.
Once again, winning a poll represents nothing about their overseas popularity and everything about how K-pop fandoms will spam polls and other meaningless shit because they think it’ll give them market penetration.
Anyway, you know what the article fails to mention? The song sort of got fucking blasted.
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It was introduced by Peter Robinson, who obviously loves the song and the group since it was his “Blogger’s Choice” or whatever.
However, most of the exchanges weren’t so kind.
On their connection with will.i.am:
“No, not will.i.am!”
“Thing about will.i.am, right? Is he does two good songs every 18 months, and that is, that is his thing.”
Exactly. Fuck that. I don’t get it.
I like 2NE1 far more than I like will.i.am, especially since he’s been on this tip where he thinks he’s some fucking social/cultural/political guru and that I give a shit about what he feels on the issues.
After the song finishes playing, a review of the track presented begins around 34:45.
“I think it’s super cool to bring in a K-pop track … but I will never have a listen to that again.”
“The attitude I appreciate, but I can’t give anybody any credit for producing any music like that … it’s like building a house out of Lego.”
Well then. That went swimmingly.
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As one would expect, 2NE1 fans got to reacting logically and reasonably to this analysis.
*Click To Enlarge* – Credits: Whoever TIpped Me With This I Don’t Remember
Credits: Whoever Tipped Me With This I Don’t Remember
And herein lies the hypocrisy of one of the greatest complaints from K-pop fans.
They have an intense hatred and disdain for everything Western pop, but if you express an opinion about a K-pop song that isn’t glowingly positive, then you are automatically close-minded, ignorant, and racist. So who is being bigoted again?
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While I’ll be the first to admit that there are complicated biases against Asian artists in the West, jumping to conclusions and using the race card or the xenophobic card or anything of the sort at EVERY FUCKING TURN does nothing to advance the cause or the movement. And that goes for just about everything in the world.
Note to K-pop fans: GET OVER YOURSELF.
This shit is why I love K-pop and hate everything that fucking comes with it. And whether you like it or not, the more reactions K-pop fans have like this, the more random people will be exposed to the psychotic idiocy that comes along with the fandom. Guess what? The end result isn’t going to be positive.
Hint: You know how Beliebers are widely mocked in the West? Psst … that’s you.
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The comment about will.i.am is so true. He can make good tracks but only once a year. He knows about music but he gives himself too much credit. I’m worried about 2ne1′s debut, it’ll probably be heavy in auto tune and their image will be muddled.
And fandoms are just stupid..like religion in my opinion.
Nice pun btw..fandumb lol
LOOOL “i don’t care about the language, is the music that counts” lololol
If i made this person listen to national folklore from my country ( http://youtu.be/qi1725oZ7t4 ) she’d probably ask what are they singing, since half of the lyrics are in quechua, google translator won’t do the job lolol
“THIS COUNTRY DOESN’T KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS HONESTLY” da fuuuuq, you live in the country responsible of many of the biggest rock bands who changed the course of music, yet you think that disliking 2NE1 will make them somehow ignorant? Please, get your head out of your ass and get a fucking grip
“THIS COUNTRY DOESN’T KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS HONESTLY” da fuuuuq, you live in the country responsible of many of the biggest rock bands who changed the course of music, yet you think that disliking 2NE1 will make them somehow ignorant?”
Exactly what I thought when I read those FB comments. So now England doesn’t know music even though they produced arguably the best rock band in existence (and of course many others) I dunno, those psycho little tweenys really need to take a seat.
THIS. britain has had many great bands and artists and they’re going to diss their own country just because some people said they don’t like freaking 2ne1? idgaf if people want to listen to kpop but they have no right using it to put down actually great musicians :( this is even worse than fangirls bashing JB while praising kpop
That’s a good song.
I actually like it. :O
I live for this shit.
I’m more worried about that fool Jeremy Scott putting them in a jerk chicken dress or something…..no one will take them seriously then.
I used to think that blackjacks would be some of the least insane fans in Kpop because 2NE1 seemed to be better than most bands in Kpop, but I think that I should just expect every band to have a fanbase full of delusional and hypocritical idiots.
-_-
Is there a fanbase that’s reasonable/normal for the most part?
Hell no! It seems like whenever the idol, the idol’s music, or the fandom itself gets criticized, the fandom turns into one big cesspool of ignorance.
I don’t think that such thing exist >.>
delusional fans are everywhere not just in kpop…
I once thought that ballad singers’ fans are normal…was I wrong.
e.g some of Davichi’s fans are only fans cause they’re anti-SNSD “DAVICHI ARE SOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN SO NYUH SLUT DAE THEY CAN BOTH SING RAP AND BE SEXY PERFECTLY WITHOUT BEING SLUTTY AND EXPOSING HALF OF THEIR LEGS”
The All Time Low & My Chemical Romance fandom pawns all the kpop fandoms. Seriously… and to think that they’re not even that active.
no its usually only pop music fandoms that are the worst
If it relates to entertainment, there are gonna be psycho fans.
I found the “Lego” comment so hilarious! I wonder what Teddy thought of it, being YG’s “genius” producer and all.
K-Pop fans can’t handle the criticism that goes with putting K-Pop music out there for everyone to listen to. If they’re going to act like that, then they might as well keep K-Pop in its little niche so they don’t get embarassed when people call them out on their stupidity.
And by K-Pop fans, I mean those delusional, die-hard fans who think K-Pop is the greatest music ever and anyone who disagrees is an idiot.
For some reason a lot of black jacks -or kpop fans in general- believe that 2ne1 can make it big if ever promoted internationaly.
When reality hits them in the face they start to make stupid excuses like “OH YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT REAL MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE” “YOU ARE RACIST”
In my opinion I don’t think that any kpop group is able to make it to the international main stream…unless if they came looking for them.
Heiring forgien composers or choreographers won’t make any differance >> even if they sing in english nothing will change.
The reason why most people think so is because three members of 2ne1 are fluent in english (well, dara, has a thick accent, but I’ll let her slide) and their music sounds a lot more like the popular stuff in the US.
They actually do have a chance, if they promote/advertise properly.
They’re like the only group that does though.
Seeing these kids talk about talent just makes me lol.
I enjoy listening to kpop because it’s fun and catchy. However, I don’t delude myself into thinking they are talented. They are performers, nothing more. If they don’t have ‘talented’ song writers behind them they won’t be very successful.
Well people are denying the truth. Kpop is a niche market.
that post gave me cancer
People are fucking nuts.
Too bad MTV is not really a music channel anymore and all their talk shows are cancelled, but they would say the same thing if not worse.
Just wondering, when you say kpop fans are you more referring to international fans, korean fans, or just plain everyone.
In this case, international fans, but Korean fans are hardly different. Arguably more insane with the sasaeng shit.
This was certainly a golden moment in the delusioned life of a YG stanner.
This pretty much sums up the worst of kpoop that I hate, which are the fangirls. Fuck, I hate them. They really are just like Beiber fans even though these bitches hate Beiber, its fucking hypocricy!!!
The All Time Low & My Chemical Romance fandom pawns all the kpop fandoms. Seriously… and to think that they’re not even that active.
shit this was supposed to be a reply
…And here I was, loving your previous avatar so much…
Y U NO LOVE SEHUN OPPA?????
I was actually gonna replace it with new Ren deliciousness today thanks for reminding.
Just when BJs stopped being annoying..
The most obnoxious thing they seem to do is fervently spout “WORLD ICONS” “WORLD FAMOUS”.
Very arrogant and won’t get them anywhere in the west.
blackjacks never stopped being annoying tbh
This is exactly why I stopped listening to 2NE1 altogether, their songs remind me of their insane fans and I want to slap somebody.
And why do people keep insulting their own countries, it’s so pathetic.
Untalented British bands? Fuck that; Coldplay is the shit.
Gosh, why do people get so mad whenever you don’t like their shit? This is why you can never socialize with others, smh.
From what I undertsand international blowjobs don’t have much power but only by vote. Some 2-3k bjs spread out. Some less than 1k bjs concentrated in certain cities. Asia is still the best music market for kpop. Even SM knows that and has been maintaining sales because of it.
YG is expaninding westward seems so desperate. Its the only other market outside Korea that 2ne1 can make some porfitable units. They failed in japan and only rank in half of sales equivalent to their korea sales. Touring is really the only option.
But lego comment pretty much nailed 2ne2 soung. Its jst bad jpop to my ears. Lyrically that song make justin bieber sound like shakespheare.
Exactly. Sometimes, Kpop songs are THAT bad I go back to listening to American/Canadian pop music. I feel at home LOL.
The fans’ reactions in the first Facebook pic: “I don’t really care for the language, it’s the music that counts.”
…Uhhh… The language (and the fact that the artists are Asian) are kinda the only things that make K-pop different from Western pop. Sorry you have to strain your ears to ignore the actual words of the song to listen to it.
its pretty funny though. They dont understand the song, yet they bash songs in their own language for being plain and boring…..if they only know korean, they can see how plain and boring 95% of the lyrics are in kpoop. Hypocrisy and kpop fans goes hand in hand always.
Yeah, which is why I enjoy when TESTAMENTVM points out the lyrics in her reviews.
:o
If you like reading the lyrics, you should go read Jungbae’s reviews at hellokpop. He knows the language fluently since he lived in Korea before moving to the states as a kid. Their site just got redesigned so I’m not sure whether they got all his articles back up on the site yet. But when they do, you’ll see all the little translations he’s done. I use his translations as a benchmark for other translations. His are the only ones I really trust.
Oh, they’re back after Soompi bought out all their writers and shit?
Regardless, I’m quite confident our staff translator is the best.
:-)
Yep, they still have most of their writers left, and are doing pretty well. Their site design now has improved alot, and is actually better than Soompi’s at the moment.
Love that you guys have you own translator :D Is he/she a writer on the site too?
Yeah.
More reasons why I just can’t stand fandoms. Seriously, this was also how those Sones were acting with the Snoop comment. They turned his tweet to a meaning he was being racist and all that crap. If someone doesn’t like something, then they don’t like it. Those fans need to get a reality check if they really think simply listening to foreign music makes them more in tune with the rest of the world… and being all anit-Western because that’s what the majority listens to.
a part of me wants kpop groups to get more exposure like this in the west just so more people will start criticizing it and will outnumber the number of arrogant annoying kpop fans so they’ll shut up….(i don’t know if this makes sense)
I thought YG Idols were mad popular in Europe lol
I’m not sure about the West, because France seems to be a big market for them, but here, in the East and Scandinavia people never really heard of YG, or kpop in general.
Ive had a listen to the BBC 1 radio show and i do think that blowjobs overreacted,kpop isnt that deep it is pop music after all.
I will say that i think that the DJs were a bit off putting.It seems like they had made up their minds about the song and the fact that it is Korean from the get go.
I didnt think they gave a real analysis of the song.”i love you” sounds like any pop track you’d hear on the radio,it is a pop track if e slapped some english lyrics on it,We’d have a Calvin Harris song.
I am surprised that non blowjobs dont like this song,personally love it. Much better than their previous releases.
Ummmm…these fans need a reality check. Stat. And for that matter, so does the group.
http://www.asianjunkie.com/2012/07/2ne1s-cl-says-korean-singers-are-more-passionate-than-american-and-japanese-singers/
The guys commenting did sound like stuck-up cunts though.
The guys on the talk show were kinda snooty, but the fans blew it out of proportion.
Like usual.
I would kill half kpop groups together with their fandoms just to watch a Led Zeppelin concert live stream on youtube
Any concert > Anything K-pop related
Led Zeppelin can’t perform for shit now though.
They’d put a better show from their wheelchairs than all those kpop weekly music programs together…. but I would put whole Korea and England on fire for just one The Yellow Monkey concert
Each their own. Iron Maiden blast Led Zeppelin, and all these idols out of the water with their live performances. So your money would be better spent on them.
AMEN
Word.
Usually when I try to introduce people to kpop and they judge it harshly I ask well maybe you’ll like another group or another song. Like for instance I showed my friend BIGBANG and she didn’t really like them but then I showed her Epik High and she liked them although they aren’t really kpop but you get what I’m saying, she also ended up liking some of Shinee’s songs and couple songs from BIGBANG just not the one I showed her. To me instead of being angry when someone doesn’t like a kpop song since not all groups are the same or have the same appeal just try something else, dissing one group doesn’t mean they don’t like all of kpop or all Asians. People are to quick to jump to conclusions. 2ne1 is best thing that ever happen to BBC? really? Yea dissing someone else’s country makes you so much better than them. Come on, we all know “I love you” was not their best song. I only listen to that song twice myself and I don’t plan on it again because its my taste although I like 2ne1. People just need to calm down, people have their own taste in music. And after what CL had said in her interview hopefully this will be a reality check for her to stop being so damn cocky, she said in that same interview that 2ne1′s music would change the world, uh…hate to break it to you CL but your not making world changing music.
I don’t mind the song but never in a million years would I say that it’s “world changing.” And what’s the deal with all this hype surrounding will.i.am and the 2ne1 collab? That man hasn’t managed to impress me in a while so I wouldn’t hesitate to bet that the album’s gonna be chock full of autotune and mediocre vocals/lyrics.
I would have loved them to review the live performance with the parrot and swans.
oh dear now how did we end up here.
This always happens maybe we should make our group private.
I truly lol
and a lot of these people are not even blackjacks (the ones on the fb comments)
Well that just makes all K-pop fans look bad then.
Worse yet…
The thing about these fangirls/boys is that they think they’ve found some genre of music that is so unique, inspiring and creative. When in reality it’s just pop music. These stupid fucks need to realize that all pop music is fluffy, sweet, and usually doesn’t mean much no matter what country it comes from.
They need to get their heads out of their asses and stop being so pretentious. People are going to criticize their precious biases whether they like or not so they better get used to it.
Besides they want to 2NE1 to go and “conquer” America well they better get ready for some criticism when they come. Just because people don’t agree with doesn’t mean you go all ape shit on them.
The world is full of opinions and none truly mean shit.
I think ppl are taking what they have said to seriously -.- and really? Useing a group where most of the fandom are kids…..least you could do is blurr out their names and pic.
Not my image.
The members of KLUE would find it to be the most decent thing if you would blur out their names; as it is an invasion of their privacy if you post some of their private comments somewhere outside of KLUE.
You are not even a member of KLUE, and you got it from a ‘tipper’ which makes it rather worse.
We don’t care if it’s ‘not your image’. It’s on your article, and therefore it is your responsibility.
I will do it if I have time.
It’s not my responsibility to hide the identities of people saying stupid shit because in retrospect they might be embarrassed.
Please back the fuck off with these vague hollow threats like it’s against the law to screencap idiocy and post it.
None of us are embarrassed, we just feel it is not right to leave our identities for ‘all the world to see’, some might say.
I just came here to try to resolve the issue, that is all. No need for ‘hollow threats’ and such.
It is not against the law, however it would be the polite thing to do if you were to blur out the names.
In hindsight, none of us thought some creepy troll people would screencap our comments and put them on a hate site.
But thank you, for considering doing it.
It’s not a hate site because we inject logic into insanity.
Just saying.
LOL KLUE is an open FB group. If you don’t want anyone screepcapping your threads and putting members in potential danger (over the internets. OH NOES), then make it closed.
Nobody got time to be comin’ after y’all anyway.
^ “Invasion of their privacy” yet they openly discussing about it on Facbook. Yeah, very personal.
*facebook ╚(•⌂•)╝ da fuq…
I think what you did was extremely unfair. You print screened one part of a whole conversation. Do you not realise that there are others in the group who are more mature than that?? I think you should at least blur out their names. They don’t deserve to get possible hate messages because of this.
You picked on one tiny part in a group of more than 2000 people. So please reconsider what you wrote in this article. I’m a part of this group and I don’t talk like this. With that one screen shot, you make British kpop fans sound bad. And that’s wrong.
Blackjacks have every right to be angry anyway, because Radio 1 were talking about them in a disrespectful way… Doesn’t mean I don’t respect other bands! I just believe that kpop is the best genre of music.
Also, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and they shouldn’t be mocked for that..
Yes, I’m entitled to my own opinion on their opinion as well. That’s how free speech works.
Uh … no. I’m not reconsidering anything. Please don’t act like these outbursts from K-pop fans are a rare occurrence or something. I’m not so clueless as to buy into that rhetoric.
I hope you realize that your third paragraph basically supports what I’m complaining about. It’s sort of amusing.
Don’t get me wrong… I do agree with your article. I just find what you did at the end wrong.
And yes, I did say you can express opinions but if they’re just plain rude then why express it?
And the people that commented on there, I know them, and yes, they may have been immature on that post, but that was a one off.
Plus, you completely ignored the other the other posts in the group. An article should not be this biased, it’s wrong .. >.<
There were other posts that weren't as immature as this yet you use this as an example, nice.
I don’t care if my opinion might offend somebody. It’s what I think, that’s sort of how it is. Muting your opinion because somebody might not like it is simply neutering any realness from it. Pass.
You can claim anything you want. I wouldn’t know because I don’t stalk the group. All I know is what I put in the article is a legitimate screencap and that the reactions are legitimately nuts. That’s it.
I didn’t ignore anything. I don’t care about your group. People link me to stuff, so I included it and reacted to it. Simple as that.
OK, you carry on being a biased idiot. You clearly do not know how to write articles.
You’re not exactly doing well to prove your assertion that KLUE members are not all dumb, irrational kids.
Nor are you doing well to lobby me to change the post.
Oops.
You know what. I stooped low by saying that. Sorry.
It’s your website, your opinion. You do whatever you want. *^.^*
I was just saying that I thought… :/
:o …LMAO
Damn AITFB, you gonna let her talk to you like that? xD
*IATFB Look at me fucking the username up… xD
Not sure if you’re an AKP or Soompi reader but… isn’t that what they do all the time? Take parts of what k-netizens say and intl-netizens act like ALL k-netizens are pyscho/crazy? And if you contribute into bashing those k-netizens and acting like the whole lot from Korea are that way, then you’re just being a hypocrite. I personally never understand why names/pics gotta be blurred out when someone posts it somewhere else online. It’s the internet, should already know anything you say/do/post is never protected nor has real privacy. Especially if the convo wasn’t a private one, then anyone can view it if they had a link. Lol did you think your opinion may offend others as well? You didn’t think your/those reactions in those screencaps were rude? Why say them in them in the first place anyway? Obvious y’all didn’t care just as much IATFB/others on here don’t care either if their opinion is ‘rude’ or ‘offensive.’
Lol. Just lol.
O HAY, THAT’S MY SCREENCAP! :D
lol this shit was an embarrassing mess. I tried to leave a positive comment letting Radio 1 know we’re not all that batshit insane and 15 year olds were tryin’ to come for me. Shut that down quick. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6tle8MUjN1qzfkwb.gif
Thanks for it.
No prob.
Haha omg @ everyone having a fit in the comments! xD ~ If you guys don’t know by now, UK fans are all trolls, I bet most of these people aren’t even serious :’) ~ ie. ‘British People Smell’
I especially like my super creative and in depth comment of my views on this situation ~ ‘Preach it!’ ;) ~
Ohh hai there, fellow KLUE person, know who I am? xD
if no one….. want to have their identities out for the world to see, why the EFF do you make a frickin Facebook account?! Or if anything, why make an account anywhere? Seriously, how logical is that? Just as much as it’s those FB people opinions, it’s random people on a random blog (NOT a news site) that write out their random opinions.
People need to learn the difference between morally right & legally right…
“Soooo…. we can bash these DJs for having an opinion because it’s our opinion, but if anyone tries to bash our opinions they’re like… so totally wrong and biased… but not us!!!!” Mmkay…
Do I think those people overreacted, yes. Do I think the underlying point is completely invalid? hmmm…not entirely.
I mean, honestly, I do think a bit of the case IS: “Not in English, no…nice try.”
Do I think the song is the most amazing thing ever, no. But it’s not the worst either. And I’m sure the reviews would not have been as harsh if it was in English.
Which is understandable…I mean, if you don’t understand what they’re singing about, why would you even give a fuck? international fans need to understand that not everyone can/will put up with that.
This host SHOULD have just used one of their English tracks tbh
I think K-pop not being in English protects it against one of its biggest weaknesses.
All I meant was that I think some of the reaction is because these kinds of critiques come off as superficial or topical because that’s all it’s gonna be (because these people don’t speak Korean). At least if it was in English we’d get a more fleshed out response (I’m not saying it’d be a better one).
Frank Ocean!!
Only thing that matters in this article.
Some Kpop fans need to learn that not everyone is going to like Kpop, and people have different opinions and likes when it comes to music.
And the facebook thing, if people don’t want their comments getting published outside of FB make your group private.