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In a fortunate bit of timing given my music video review of SISTAR‘s “Loving U“, which tackles the inclusion of white people everywhere seemingly at random, BEAST will apparently be the next K-pop group to continue the trend. This according to the craigslist posting that can be seen above.
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So basically, if you’re white, female, and your cousin’s boyfriend’s friend used to do photoshoots for J. C. Penney — and he totally took a picture of you once, thus making you a model — and you want to work for pennies as strangely dressed Asian men dance around you and use you as a prop, YOU JUST HIT THE FUCKING JACKPOT BABY!
BEAST wants to keep their music video’s representation of multi-cultural New York all white, like it was an Aryan Brotherhood meeting that six Asian dudes happened to stumble in on.
It’ll be like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in “Bad Boys 2″.
Sweet!
I’m sure Big Bang had a similar posting on Craigslist back in February.
So… if they decide to film in Kenya…….. Or like, India or even Puerto Rico, I wonder what the posting will say.
I’m pretty sure that will never happen.
Yeah, those places are full of dirty people!
Seungri might get shot!
Well maybe Puetro Rico especially because of it’s island-ness but I’m sure they’ll manage to fly out white people there lol!!!
I just find it hilarious how bigbang only wanted white girls except they try so hard to have “swag” and “gangster” cred and all that shit.
Though theycould’ve fooled me with those last MVs lol.
Yeah, it’s like: “Gangster’s what’s up yo, but keep it white.”
LOLNO, stfu.
“Just scared of getting shot.” – Seungri
For MV SCENE 2, 5pm – 3pm?
That must be some overnighter, lol
I hope that the video turns out so that we actually know it was filmed in New York. Not like most of the overseas videos coming out these days.
I approve
Beast singing and dancing on a box surrounded by a bunch of random white girls
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6rgxsscjc1qfeu92.gif
I just care about the song, the only beast MV I really like is Breath anyways….. I really hope they kick super junior asses on music programs and charts just to watch elfs burning
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6rnveDzvo1ravhmgo1_500.gif
They should get those girls from Rebecca Black video….I know someone has the gifs of them
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6rpb7fJPQ1r43mzt.gif
I just saw that Mv for the first time, she scares me
they’re apparently coming back in late july so its too late -_- i think 2ne1 and t-ara have somewhat of a chance, their digital sales have always been way better than SJ’s anyways.
My digital sales are better than suju’s
Unfortunately, that will never happen. Because elves are friggin insane.
Don’t be so sure, 2NE1 beat their sorry sorry asses in their (2ne1) debut…. It looks like elfs are quieting down now that Suju is flopping, they keep saying that SFS is the song/MV of the year, but they are stopping downplaying T-ara, 2NE1 and whoever promote in july
White people always get to do the fun stuff. FUCK THAT!!, I’m taking a bleach bath tonight
Being white, I can tell you that it very much depends on what kind of white you are, too. At least within the white community.
If I lived in New York, I’d go and photo (video?) bomb that set with my beautiful black behind.
These K-Pop companies seem to think that they if add white women, you’ve suddenly moved up life. What a crock. Until they add thick women like Junsu did with “Tarantallegra” they’ll be like every other MV pimping white women for views.
White >>> everyone else….oh you didn’t know
My mix-breed self will join you in this journey to their set. Do Koreans have a problem with Armenians?
AH AM SOWWY DAT AH AM DUH MONGOLIAN, CUZ ARR AZN COUNTRIES BESIDES KOREAN SUCK SOH BAD, BUT AH AM ARSO DUH EUROPEAN!!!!!
Mind-fuck.
They prolly still wouldn’t except me because I’m just not at their level yet -_-
wat
Just ranting. I know I ought to stop, but it’s difficult to do when there is stuff like Kpop….
And omg that rhymed O.O
Try being someone from the S.East. “OH NO, WE DON’T ASSOCIATE WITH DUH DIRTY AZNS. THEY ARE DUH PROSTITUTES AND STILL LIVE IN HUTS AND CLIMB ON COCONUT TREES LIKE THE MONKEY THEY ARE. NICHKHUN JUST TOKEN TO KEEP THEM FOOLED.”
I know all of them are not like this, but I just wanted to know how it feels like to be a bitter bitch. :) And it felt good.
Being bitter online is the best, I must agree with you on that.
Sure, not all of them are like that, but pretty much every Korean site featuring stories of people that are even a tint more bronze than white get shit from netizens(ie: an article posted earlier about Sistar being ugly for being tan http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5rFmKkmqhsY/T5T50gPWBAI/AAAAAAAAAps/Kif0EdK8xLs/s1600/what.gif ) They are often considered ugly, stupid, rubes, etc because of it
Korea needs to get over that, especially since they’re trying to be a big deal to the world
I think most think they’re ugly because they are butterfaces.
In korea, most dark people ARE ugly stupid rubes…They are the farmers and manual laborers.
In seoul you have the pale skinned, well educated. In the country you have dark skin and low levels of education
I also don’t really get why people feel that its ignorant for them to think that darker skin is unattractive. People, and cultures, are allowed to have their own perceptions of beauty. Pale skin has been the ideal for hundreds, if not thousands of years in korea and around other parts of asia too. Suddenly they should just remove this part of their culture for reasons of political correctness? Really?
@nana-ate-my-nana Well, it is ignorant to think if you got some melanin on your skin, you’re automatically ugly. To me that is. Who are we to say what their farmers and rural people are? Last time I found out, stupidity and ugliness has no discrimination. It’s like saying Beyonce is ugly because she’s brown (multiracial).
So, if a pale Korean person comes by and he might be a simple minded fuck (like those dudes being on those shows calling toned and curvy women fat,) and his face looks like he got hit with a railroad spike a little too much. Then another person comes by with tanner skin, got a good head on his/her shoulders, and a face that looks like Song Hye Kyo, would be the ugly, stupid, and a rube just because her skin is a little friggin’ browner??? Kiss my ass. If that’s so, http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png
The culture, the mentality, can be 100,000 years old for all I care, it doesn’t mean it can’t be criticized and questioned upon. Like religion. Just because a lot of people are Christians or Muslim, does it means its legit? We can have our own perceptions of beauty all we want, that doesn’t mean it’s right for someone else. I’m not disagreeing with you in anyway, because it’s unfortunately true, but it’s crazy to think it this should be continued and accept it to as if it’s okay.
*Not disagreeing, I meant against. Be nice if there’s an edit button :(
“I also don’t really get why people feel that its ignorant for them to think that darker skin is unattractive”
It’s pretty much like that around the world to value light skin over dark skin, not just Korea, although I am aware that its for different reasons in Korea than it is other places. However, isn’t that a colorism issue? Like homophobia, racism, and sexism it happens everywhere and its a human rights issue, why should that be dismissed in the name of cultural norms? With that attitude a society cannot grow, and I am not just talking about Korea when I say that.
Jazzy,
It is nothing like racism, sexism, homophobia etc because its an attractiveness value.
I prefer slim chicks to fat bitches. I prefer black hair to ginger bitches. Should i be chastised because i dont find fatties or gingers attractive?
Mothermonster,
Is it also ignorant to believe if you have an enormous mole on your face, you are ugly? Or if you have 50 extra lbs on a 5’1 frame?
Why is it ok to have preferences regarding everything but somehow the colour of the skin, which is a HUGE thing, is untouchable?
As for ‘who are we to say what their farmers are’..well its obviously a generalisation but its based in fact. The eductional statistics are out there if you care enough to look for them.
‘We can have our own perceptions of beauty all we want, that doesnt mean its right for someone else’
Its not for someone else though, its their own perception. They arent forcing you to believe the same way they do…but you, apparently, want to force them to believe the way you do…Interesting.
PS, im sure ill be called a racist for talking about it…thats how people work…but personally i much prefer tan to pale.
Yeah but your not going to make an assumption that ginger haired people are poor or of lower class, and just because you like brown hair doesn’t mean a whole society condemns brown hair over red, then we have a problem. And yes it can be a big issue, people are discriminated because of things like skin color from people of the same race, its talked about just as much as as racism, sexism and homophobia are, and there many documentaries out there about it in the states. Hitler and Nazi’s were all about colorism, only the blonde hair blue eyed white people, not the brown eyes, brown hair and darker skinned jews. Your being pretty naive if you think colorism is not as big as other human rights issues.
Also I like brown over red as well, but that doesn’t mean I can’t see when someone else is attractive just because of their hair color if they have nice features or that I wont ever date anyone who doesn’t have brown hair, or make fun of people who have red hair and not brown, these are things that happen to people because of “skin preferences”. Most people have preferences but that doesn’t mean they discriminate against others because of preferences. The day I see ads that says we only want brown hair white models not red head ones like you see when it comes to agencies only wanting light skinned black models over darker skinned ones then maybe you can compare hair color with skin, until then I don’t think its a far comparison since the majority of people are not discriminated against on the basis of hair color.
Racist? Idk. Stubborn and bigoted? yyyyeeeah, I can see that.
“apparently, you want to force them to believe the way you do…Interesting.” Now you putting words in my mouth?
“Is it also ignorant to believe if you have an enormous mole on your face, you are ugly? Or if you have 50 extra lbs on a 5’1 frame?” Well, some people surprisingly are attracted to things like that, it’s one of the things that makes us humans. Certain men like women with meat on their bones, some like them looking like Lou Ferrigno, some like a toned body, and there’s some like ‘em Nicole Richie built.
And we’re talking about societies that the majority thinks the same and been taught think that way, and to think light skin=pretty, innocent, dark skin= ugly, stupid, your own kind= you should only be with, and foreigner/other race= enemy, evil, criminals, impure. It doesn’t sound like having “your own” preference (your own mind for that matter) to me.
It ain’t about forcing people what I believe, what I’m saying people need to get over themselves and think outside the damn box once in a while. You wonder why people will never get nobody because they want a friggin’ Barbie or Kenny doll. I’m not gonna condemn someone just because of what they’re born with. With you about fat girls, if that’s what you think, you can go on with yo bad self, they can be the greatest person you would miss out on, and it doesn’t mean they can’t lose weight/be healthier. If a red hair girl is everything you look for in a chick, would you just brush her away just because she’s a ginger?
I think the problem here is that you guys don’t seem to be able to distinguish between something happening within a homogeneous society and something that applies to the world at late.
Obviously, in the west we don’t see dark people as being dumb..Well, a certain section of society might but they aren’t worth listening to anyway.
To answer those questions…If i met a perfect fat chick or a perfect ginger, of course i wouldn’t chuck them away just cos of that. but i would have gotten to know them. but that isn’t what we are discussing here. We are simply discussing basic physical attraction at first glance.
You think those people saying hyorin is dark would say no to her if they met her and found out she was cool as shit? Of course not.
The problem is that they’re associating dark skin with inferiority, which is racist, not a preference for dating.
Whatever the circumstances, it’s stupid to just assume in lieu of actual knowledge.
On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with preferences.
I know some guys who like pasty, translucent girls. Fine. I don’t like it, but whatever, that’s your shit.
As long as it doesn’t come along with “dark means they’re dirty” type of comments, then whatever, they have the right to have their own preference in what makes their dicks hard/pussies wet.
Sure, but again, its in the context of korea. They are talking about dark koreans being inferior…and dark koreans are dark as a result of the sun. Theres no racism there.
Of course, a great many of them do believe blacks are inferior..but thats a different issue and is racism :o its also based on more than them simply being dark too.
Right, they are dark because they are out in the sun. And?
I can see why when trying to determine attraction, one could make a judgment upon seeing them. A personality trait assessment though? That’s impossible.
I’m just glad I’m a light skinned South East Asian. The amount of times I’ve heard someone say “Oh she’s pretty but she’d be prettier if she had light skin” is fucking ridiculous. I don’t know what I’d do if someone says that to me.
pominitslut;
I feel the same way you do.
I’m a fair-skinned indian, and I STILL get shit from my family members, and other indians that I would be prettier if I went out and bought skin-whitening creams/products.
I think Asia in general has a complex when it comes to fair skin.
I have fair skin myself, it’s a big thing to be light skinned in Thailand too. Dem skin bleach products are hot pickings at the 7Eleven and pharmacies. The girls there go to full lengths to have their whole body covered with coats and sun hats even if it’s 90+ degrees out. Pretty much the ideal image there too, all the actors and singers you see are either pale as hell, half east asian, or half white. It’s mostly a “brown” country though since most of the country is the jungle, the boonies farms, and the beaches. Just Laos and Vietnam. Yet they’re the majority but also the ones suffered discrimination solely because they look like “dark monkeys.” It’s sad.
*like
Dear God yes. Skin bleaching products is prob th best selling commodity here. I actually am naturally light skinned since I’m partly East Asian but because I grew up in a fucking island I got tan… then when I moved out to the city my natural color showed and when I came back to my hometown everyone was asking me what products I used even though I only use regular bars of soap .-.
Some of my cousins hate on me since they have the same amount of East Asian blood running on their veins and they can’t accept that I’m the most East Asian looking one welp.
You guys realize that by looking at yourself and saying that you are fortunate that you have fair skin you are thus justifying the racism as well, right?
:o
Never said I was fortunate, just saying I have fair skin. :o I still get dumbass comments about it too. like “Oh, its almost there but it’s not light enough.” “You’re still not as pretty and fair like the Chiang Mai women.” “What brand you use for your skin?”
wasn’t trying to justify it, just pointing out that asia in as a whole has a complex when it comes to fair skin.
Mother Monster and Jazzy you guys are having the most futile discussion with Nana,seriously. Not worth it,he doesnt see that colourism is messed up and not just in the ‘beauty’ aspect of it but how it affects people socioeconomically.
I suggest you guys stop,you are not going to get anywhere.
I also think people need to remember that nobody is talking about actual real skin color here, the discussion is about LEVEL OF SUN TAN.
Those dark koreans are dark because they’ve been out in the sun a lot. Its the actions that lead to their skin BECOMING dark that is why people judge them to be less educated. It is a direct result of their actions. They weren’t born that color.
I think some people in here are once again taking something within korea and its homogenous society and applying it to the wider world and then getting outraged.
No, the problem, once again, is that you two are arguing two different points.
Nana is saying that people can have sexual preferences based on skin color. That is absolutely true. In other regions, being pasty and white is not seen as the ideal.
Jazzy, MM, and you are talking about the racism/xenophobia in Korea towards darker skin (or in the world, really). They can be intertwined, but it’s irresponsible to just assume so. Most sexy concepts are done with tanned skin in Korea, like Hyori who is universally fapped to by Korean men.
I agree with both sides in different ways, but you are all flipping out at each other because you think the other is defending something/talking about something that isn’t actually happening.
Nana is compartmentalizing a point, you guys are talking about a wide-ranging topic. It’s just different.
If either of you are stepping outside of that boundary, then I’ll have to disagree with either.
Level of tan isn’t really relevant to judging somebody on a personal level though.
See lots of tanned people where I am. You can make judgments like “oh that person spends time outdoors” or “oh that person is a surfer”, but shit goes awry once you cross the line from observation to inferences like “oh that means they are stupid hippie shits” or “oh that means they are poor and stupid”.
It’s just a completely illogical jump, regardless of culture or background.
My sister is quite tanned because she spends a ton of time outdoors … doing anything but physical labor.
In tropical places? Sure, you’re on the money…In the uk too..but in korea, where its a deep rooted cultural thing to stay out of the sun, then it isn’t that outrageous to make judgements.
When the vast vast majority actively avoid the sun, those that are very dark tend to be those who are forced to be out in the sun due to having low paid, outdoor based jobs.
In seoul, almost everyone is pale..most of the chicks are as white as me. go 50 miles outside of seoul and you see the people working the land and shit, they are daaarrrrkkkkkkkkk
You’ve seen the movie bedeviled right? It really is like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBvo4TvbDBU
Judgments on what? Their personality? That’s quite the leap.
The logic of “he/she is dark therefore he/she is a certain PERSONALITY trait” is always a dumb assumption to make.
It’s not a cultural/societal thing, it’s a logic thing. It’s a jump in logic that’s devoid of reason.
It’s not racism as much as it is that they think “white” means “international”.
yep.
this is when white-washed western entertainment has even more fucked up consequences for a side of the planet that already has issues with shadeism.
I really wish we could do more than link gifs but…
http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/GoGoSunshine/Gifs/2nly5fm.gif
“BOYS 2 SEARCH FOR WHITE WOMEN” read that on my timeline yesterday PMSL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA
Sucks because I’m a freaking B2UTY and I just know this comeback might just suck. (I said might bc it’s good to have a glimpse of hope but nope gonna suck)
NO!!!!! This new album will be even better than Fiction…. and maybe they finally reliase a MV for ‘on rainy days’ (a good one BEG’s cleansing cream level) Doojoon will get more lines and Junhyun will fuck Hyunseung on stage
http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac91/srnocivo/banners%20y%20gifs/tumblr_lsefqvQxgI1r0xb5do1_500.gif
They can’t fuck on stage, that’s not how far their fanservice goes.
OR so they think. B)
Can any girl just go or do they check you at the door and be like lol no you can’t get in.
This is the perfect opportunity for some fangirls to meet their oppa and live out their fantasy of him falling in love with her.
Like Tina said, the overnight sounds rough.
and will smith is uuuuummmmmmmfffff
You have to send a headshot, so if you’re ugly, you’re fucked.
I doubt that just look at the chicks in Big Bang’s Bad Boy video.
The only girl I thought was pretty was tops girl, and she was wearing glasses.
Touche.
I remember watching a variety show where they said they all white people look they same, they’re probably just looking for blonde with blue eyes.
True.
I was so use to watching kpop videos with only Caucasians that I was genuinely surprised/ happy when i saw this mv with more than one race…
Mayday-Noah’s Ark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V46K7apDziA&feature=player_embedded
that being said it’s cpop but it’s something different and I love Mayday so why not share…
Please make a “comment of the day” about this http://ygladies.com/news/2ne1/120707-interview-the-1st-girl-group-in-the-nation-to-go-on-a-world-tour-2ne1
Go to the question; “Why do you think foreigners like 2NE1 & Kpop?” and see the answer to that question.
Wowwww. Did they really just say American’s aren’t passionate about music lol.
I actually took that answer as a really subtle way of saying “Koreans are fucking insane when it comes to their idols”.
This is the same person who said Lauren Hill, Lady Gaga, & Madonna were people who influence/inspired. *sigh* well I guess they had no passion it makes perfect sense. smh
*influence/inspired her.*
Madonna’s a great business women I’ll give her that. Lady Gaga….uhhhh….great philanthropist? Don’t know where the hell Lauryn Hill came from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHGKG9dyTKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjBksLgXZG8
Moment 2NE1 makes any song close to the quality of these, I’ll start caring about them again.
Lauryn Hill makes some good music though and I forgot which album(s) sold a lot but… yeah she did pretty well during her prime in the 90′s
Not saying she’s bad at all. Her and Tasha are the greatest female MCs in the world of the last 20 years. But she’s made only one album- a 8.00x multi platinum album- in 1999. THE album of that year. Had classics like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QKqFPRZSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_dOWYHS7I
It would make more sense if they said Tasha.
http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/GoGoSunshine/Gifs/tumblr_lw3rjyE5V71qecwu6.gif
She needs to the shut the fuck up. I cannot with this K-Pop is the music messiah. Like there is so much I can say…
ugh I hate my angry typos they mess up the flow, extra “the” please be gone.
Getting to it.
lol wtf 2ne1 is the most western influenced kpop group (tied with bigbang of course). she could’ve just said kpop idols are passionate about music but no she had to put down all japanese and american singers with her comment. SMH. i just can’t…
I just want to go to the YG hq and http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/sezitall/GIFs/8497248_l.gif
Are you serious?
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/2643976_o.gif
Please, fall off of your high horse.
Kpop gets a few foreign fans and their music has more “passion” than American and Japanese music?
Now, I’m all for Kpop over American music, but bish, don’t get cocky.
Kpop is becoming more and more of an embarrassment.
I’m not even surprised. Maybe only white women should buy their albums and go to their concerts.
I mean with Kpop I should most likely expect mostly Asians and not people of my race because its Korean pop after all, but if they are going to use foreigners it would be nice to see other races other than white. I mean if your using 20+ females you can cover many races, especially in New York, but I guess its their way of showing off as if to say “Hey look at me and these white girls, Im in America, I must be the shit to get these white women!” I don’t think they are the least bit concerned about being multi-cultural.
I want dem hispanic women from New York.
Yum.
:o
U got good taste
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m67qh3cgKK1r9kebyo1_250.gif
YES
WHY MUST THEY DO THIS TO THEMSELVES?!?! IT’S SO EMBARASSING TO NOT JUST THEM BUT TO OTHERS (much like SNSD at that NYC club- it was too freaking uncomfortable and it just needed to have never happened)!!!
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111221131304/icarly/images/7/73/Tumblr_lwjj3q3g2a1qe3yjd.gif
ugh i was looking forward to this comeback i hope it doesn’t end up being lame…
Had a feeling something like this was going on when I saw this. http://i.imgur.com/PvuXV.jpg
But those girls don’t even look… All that…
did junhyung lose a bet? what’s with the terrible hairstyle?
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/222/5/2/kyuhyun_laugh_gif_by_kimchattigirl.gif
Those fugly, fat, short, random bitches are the ‘models’, I look better than that when I wake up with a flu (yeah that much)
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/piraruchan/gifs/tumblr_m1scjz26WF1qap736.gif
They could at least use blondes bitches with big tits and then have an orgy on the hotel room… and I thought SFS would win the worst MV of 2012, but this imbeciles actually went to NY and spent 5 buks just to F-A-I-L
E-mail me nudes if you are 18 or above.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2695/4260660091_13719e6cf0.jpg
IT’S PURPLE NOW SOMEONE KILL IT http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6rnq7Tt9Q1qbcw96o1_500.jpg
1) What is up with their hair?
2) Why are they all ugly?
All of the sudden my self steem got raisen
If this fugly bitches can be in their videos i’m the next Rihanna
I thought the same, except with Beyonce.
Lets all get together and make them a new MV
Wtf? Why pick such average joes?
And that one with that look on her face like “omahgosh, lyk, I’m hur wiff BEAST, and ur nawt. hardy har har”
But at least they’re not toothpicks. Girl in the black dress behind girl in the yellow + black dress.
You better wurk those calfs♥
Though it’s not exactly racism, it doesn’t mean it’s right either.
allkpoopers were defending this behavior. I know all the fangirls on allkpop would be freaking out if any American preferred not to include asians in a MV claiming asian americans are constantly discriminated.
allkpop ran an article on this?
forums
If it was (white) American/European fans why should they complain when this bias works in their favor?
And then they will call us ‘others’ being butt-hurt about it and ‘pulling the race card’… yup, and I bet they will even lump Asians with the ‘others’ too. (when they’re like… the ones obviously crazy about Asians/Koreans o.O)
I see black fans who say the stuff you just mentioned. I personally would NEVER want to be a video for anyone unless Aaliyah came back from the dead so this whole issue is ignorant yes but at the same time I’m just over the world and it’s hangups.
A lot of I-Fans tend to be asian american/latino from what I’ve seen. Even if they were white, it’s just out of human decency?
Really?
Seems to me it’s Asian – Black – White – Other.
Dunno.
Except it doesn’t. They are stereotypes and they play out negatively in other areas. That’s when they complain and they say shit like how Korea is a stupid country and all their high horse moralizing shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUrUPzLm5SI&feature=g-all-u
Oh, and the 2NE1 mv was kinda boring. The only was brow raising was CL and Minzy was touching themselves. I keep begging CL to stop because I don’t want nightmares, but to add insult to injury they they had to put major close ups on Bom’s fucking face. I am now scarred for life T__T
*thing -groans- stupid android…
CL would be attractive if it wasn’t for those fucking slits for eyes.
and bom woulda been attractive if she hadn’t fucked up her face like an idiot.
I’ll just stare at minji I guess.
None of them are really that attractive.
my reply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xkGS5i9ko
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice INDEED.
;D
Damn right.
99% chance its some pervy dude who posted that ad to get pics of chicks :o
seems EXTREMELY odd to me that they would use craigslist instead of the hundreds of agencies available.
Your assumption that Korean companies hire well run American companies to do their work is cute.
:o
There’s a reason most K-pop events in America are disasters.
It’s pretty stupid of them to try to debut in America without American business connections then. Wtf is their reasoning for such a boneheaded move?
I don’t see what’s wrong with this. They wanted white models, they got white models. Now I’m all for increasing racial representation in media, but come on. It’s pretty rich to expect that from a K-Pop boy band, they’re not here to promote multiculturalism, they just wanted some white broads to pose with.
On the other hand, it’s a bit shady to use craigslist. They really couldn’t just call up any one of the hundreds of modeling agencies in New York and say “ayo, send us some of your hot white women”?
Because they never use anything but white models.
It’s hilarious that “foreign” and “American” means “white” to them.
but come on can you really imagine them doing a video with big booty ethnic woman like Melissa ford and so on.
Considering they steal most of their hip-hop influenced choreography from people meant to perform those moves with those bodies, one would think so.
But even if you have big booty women they don’t have to act like the stereotypical ‘big booty women’ you see in many videos… heck, there’s many non-whites who don’t have big booties too.. and there’s also many other people of color who aren’t considered black that could still be used in the video. But when you throw in ‘white’ it’s them (thinking) they’re saying “hey, see we’re open-minded and like foreigners!!!” while it really just proves that… they’re not. (I still get irked when I see an-an magazines)
Let’s be honest, African-American artists do far more damage in making that a stereotype than anybody else does it to them.
:o
Well, I never said anything about it being or not beig damaging just…. it’s not like the video would have to big booties be portrayed the same way they’re portrayed usually. A stereotype can’t be applied if well.. they’re not following it ^^ (it that ‘what if’ case, shake their butts in peoples faces)
As a black person im actually agreeing with this comment. It’s really embarrassing actually. But as a black person that strives to get away from that type of connotation or stereotype I wish these kpop companies were a bit more open minded to having other races in their videos other than whites. I mean you don’t have to go get some ghetto-esque type person for the video but I do find it funny they always get black choreographers to teach them dance moves or to produce or do a feature in their songs yet wont put many in the videos. Wonder Girls they got Akon for their video he’s got darker skin and he’s still in their video. But when it comes to boy groups you don’t really see women with darker skin in the videos.
Akon is an artist though and the actual draw for the American audiences to that music video.
Lol @ everything
I’m latinoamerican, and once my dad got to go to NY for work . My family was worried as fuck because he can’t speak english for shit. On the 2nd day he called and was all “lol everyone here speaks spanish”. Apparently he was lucky enough to always come across with hispanic people when asking for directions
So at least he met the only 20-30 hispanic people there, white people are not the 90% of the city
yup, you’re right! In the city (well, Manhattan only, I don’t really go to the other boroughs) it’s pretty mixed, though it depends on where you go. Where I live there’s mainly white people and asians. However, as you go further uptown and Harlem, there are more hispanics and african-americans.
Mi tia tiene como 40 años viviendo alla y su ingles es peor que el SM… si querian chicas blancas/ojos azules debieron ir a Kansas
lol o para eso levantan extranjeros rubios en la calle y los llevan a filmar -_-
random
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20120413/21/maccoflavor/80/14/g/o0200025011914093521.gif
Lol! My ex’s dad can’t really speak English but they used to live in a part of North Jersey where like… everyone in town speaks Spanish (Union City) so like….. 20 years later he still never really had to learn English. And when they moved to this boonie part of PA (near the Pocconos) he still didn’t even have to learn English lol. I dunno Spanish communities are like everywhere if you look.
lol yes we’re everywhere
nothing to be proud of though :o
Well I dunno I like knowing where there’s minorities around because uh….. when I go to certain places and I’m the only brown person around, it makes me feel a bit weird… and more weird when I’m stared at so yeah ^^; (I got streets around where I live I wouldn’t dare go down and towns not far that I just wouldn’t want to explore)
That’s a good thing, love the hell out of my Hispanic friends.
@the people above: well it’s a good thing if you think about it from that point of view, but if you think about it in latinoamerican perspective (lol whut) it’s not
say, since most people leave their countries because:
a)they can’t find job/they are running away from poverty, any kinds of social disturbances,etc.
or b) they can’t find the educational levels they need/the jobs they should be working on can’t be found
then there’s the small percentage of people who left because they got married/have family in other countries/etc.
So it’s really easy to consider that the more inmigrants of a given country the shittier the situation of that country (i’m argentinian, and you could literally get lost in some far away italian village and find one of us)
but ,all in all, you end up with people actually considering leaving = success
I agree IAFTB. Basically, yeah, to Koreans, foreigners/westerners = white people. It’s really quite ignorant.
Just like SM with his “All auditioners welcome/All races welcome” as if anyone that’s not Korean or half Korean (Looking mostly Korean) would be hired. Smfh.
It’s all just bullshit. Artists like Jay Park and Junsu add a different touch of spice to their MVs, and all hell breaks loose amongst the Korean netizens. Hyorin gets a tan, and “she looks African” – Let’s not forget that not ALL Africans are even black, children. Dumb-asses.
Oh, and there was that one black girl in 2PM’s MV for like, two seconds + SE7EN did that MV with whats-her-face grinding on him.
Oh well. Until more people in Korea start being more open minded, they wont get as big as they want.
And REMEMBER children…Korea says White/Asain or gtfo.
Well with SM it’s more like, if you aren’t east asian they don’t care how talented you are – you’re not getting in.
A LOT of the people SM they pick up from the global auditions tend to be of Chinese background.
Oh yeah, forgot about Chinese.
Stealing this from someone above:
http://i.imgur.com/PvuXV.jpg
lololol, they could have done so much better, those chicks are um…boring
At least, if you’re looking for a ‘model,’ then get a ‘model’ looking chick.
Not all models are beautiful, or even pretty. Some models are down right ugly, but if they have the body, then they’re usually in. Not every toothpick is going to be pretty. You could have pretty and not thin, or you could have thin and not pretty. You get what you get and don’t throw a fit.
Even if you solely look at their bodies, they do not look quite that amazing, though I have not seen the mv, so I’m not going to judge just yet.
However, whoever put that up on craigslist asked for a portrait picture, so I would guess they would want someone attractive, especially if it’s for a mv.
I find most runway models completely unappealing.
a lot of professional models aren’t even conventionally attractive, or even unconventionally attractive.
The point is for them to be thin/have a slender frame in which to model the designer’s clothes without affecting the appearance of the clothes too much.
so even if they went out and got a professional model from a well-known agency, it’s not a surefire thing that they’d be physically attractive.
Yeah.
Victoria’s Secret > All
I’ve work as model on commercial (fast cash) and even the people that just pass by a street have to look somewhat decent…. these bitches
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc452/srnocivo2/gifs/tumblr_m3rgu7boo31r76g4t.gif
LOL, I was thinking the same thing when I read it, that kpop is not even global.
Honestly, she probably knows that most people think Kpop is copied music. It seems like she was just trying to find a way to make herself feel better about borrowing music and convince herself that shes some how superior as a singer. Almost as if to say “Yeah we take music styles from other cultures and genres, but our artist have more passion, so that makes us better!” yeah okay.
Ignore this comment, I mean’t to put it under the CL article.
I’m German & Irish, but because my fathers grandma was full blooded Cherokee, everyone always asks if I’m part (insert Asian country) or Hawaiian. Apparently I have “slanty azn eyes”. >_> No one believes I’m white. *sigh* So much for being a Kpop prop.
I cant really have sympathy when asians complain about being misrepresented in american media. I can’t recall any major movies with an asian male or female being the lead role. Winning an oscar or being the top pick in holywood. Poetic justice?
I can’t hate on someone for having a “perfernce”but to me that’s just a kinder way of saying I have a prejudice. Koreans see foreigners as white because the america and europe wouldn’t have it any other way.
Being white, the right kind of white is amazing. Its just feeds into that korean appeal of absolute. I mean what nation to this day looks down upon a dark skin person as poor?
No its not education that determines a man’s and woman’s worth in their society. No its their fucking skin color. And to hate those who put the food on your table. Cause your lazy pale ass can’t plant in fear of the sun. That’s makes perfect sense. I wish I had that level of intelligence. Its like the old saying keep them prejudice keeps them stupid. It works look at the fucking world. Oh man does this shit work.
I learned from my grandfather about growing your own food and hunting, if shit popped of tomorrow and all the worlds luxuries and conveniences were gone I’d be a-ok and no, you can’t leech off me. Your degree wouldn’t be worth squat then.
Good thing it won’t happen, and if an extinction level event does happen, chances are we’ll all be dead in the initial rush anyway, so it’s irrelevant.
Only 2-3% of the world produces foods. And its typically in lower GDP nations. So areas like in south america and africa grow the worlds supply of food. While china,vietnam,thailand etc.. are labor intensive countries. England,the americas. Parts of china. South korea and japan are more technology. In other word we no longer have farms and factors that. Make of the bulk in our society. It is jobs of higher education technology and communication and medical has become our focus.
Which is funny because koreans political and economicallt is turining to africa. As well as china and japan for their raw materials as well food. So can one predict that several decades from now asian will be more accustom to seeing blacks within their culture? Would this laterthe old and primitive caste system within those nations?
Why can’t you have sympathy for that? It makes zero sense.
And yes, you can have preferences, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. In more temperate climates, being pasty and white is not the ideal, it’s being tanned and brown. Is that racist against white people?
Come on.
Tanned and brown. Is a preference to some not all. But to suggest that a person preference can not be influence by prejudice is not correct either.
Other factors can come into effect on why you date or find a certain particular person attractive.
1) enviroment both social media (tv,movies,advertisments) and within the household. So let’s say you’re an asian male (to who you are ) and see white as the dominate ideal of western beauty. Along with thiness and certain body shapes. Even though you can change that due to age and experience it will still influence on what you consider attractive or not.
Same with to what is consider accepted as abstract. The most common interracial mixes in western media are white male asian female, black male white female, black female white male, and hispannic female and or white or black male. Those factors can influence who you chose as a partner outside your race. This also shows that asian men are on the latter end of IR dating.
The other big determine factor is family infleuence.. assuming your an asian male. Your parents may say only bring home an asian women of the same culture. They may say bring home an asian women even if she is a different culture. Or they may exclude others who are non-asian. But if tthey allow than its a matter of their own cultrual influence experience with other outside. In America blacks aren’t always represented in highest regards nor are hispanic. This can influence your parents disagree or to agree. They may only say bring home white since their seen in a more positive light or cultrual dominated. Experience can change that varaible. Or you practicing autonomy. So family and tradition along with experience effects peference.
2) self esteem and peer presure.yourself and your friends. Their influence on you.
3) social acceptance the whole of society. Common or uncommon and social peer presure. How you want society to see you and where do you fit in it.
4)religion can be a factor for some even in IR dating
5)cultrual values and customs to gender roles.
6)sexuality
Etc..the list fucking goes on
All this is taking into consideration when having a perference to whom or what you are willing to date. Within these factors an influence of prejudice direct or indirectly can alter your choice.
Its amazes me how people think they’re liberal when dating in IR situations. Yet have a specific type of race and what superfical attraction that supports why they date that particular type of race of person. That is a prejudice to which is a form of discrimination which effects your perference to either date or not date a certain race and or persons.
I can date outside my race and still be prejudice ? Oh hell yes if my intentions are influence by prejudice to which effects my preference. Its the why,the reason not the superficality that can make a preference turn prejudice. Its a matter you are willing to admit you have one is the true dilemma. This can go into other relationship you have with people.
B2st choice for a white female is to social pressure. Which can be directly and indirectly learn from a society that has a prejudice towards those foreigners who are non-white. Is that true I don’t know. I’m not beast but its possible.
I can say the same about asian men in american society. Either accept your place that society have put you in or change that ideology. No sympathy for asian american who has been in the states for than two decades. Korean homogenous society understandable. American melting pot flush with opportunity as long you know how to make it so. Blacks did and they came from bondage. Hispanics did it because we demand. There is even afro-latinos now. To show how really diverse use latinos are verse what america thinks. I love it a decade ago you would know of latinos of both african and spanish decent. Only the euro or the most white looking. Now all shades of latino are showinf because my people have a lot of fucking pride. Yeah their is a prejudice within our cultures. But at the end of the day we are all products of the 21 spanish nations. Unity help blacks and hispanics in american entertainment. Asian community lacks that and I can not have sympathy for that reason. If you can break bread with your own people even if they maybe a differ skin tone or speak a differ tongue. How do you aspect society to respect you if you struggle to respect one another? You can explain that one to me.
Sorry for the novel
None of that addresses my argument though.
You wrote all that to say that prejudice COULD affect one’s preference, which … duh. But nothing to refute the point that preferences do exist independent of racism.
And no, where I live, being pasty white is not attractive at all. Hell, it isn’t that way anywhere in America anymore.
White women want to be brown now, just saying.
I’m not talking about where you live but the media. The whole of the world. And know last time I pick up a mag non white women claim to be this “brown” you’re talking about. I think you are talking about tanning verse those who are acutally brown skin for being a different ethnic. That’s two different things to address. Just because a white women tans does not mean she wants to be more ethnic. On top that there is a degree white women are willing to go when tanning. Trust me its not my fucking shade of brown. Its 3 shades lighter.
You are thinking of a light bronze color or a warm shell coquilage color in cosmitics. I’m think of honey brown to medium brown to dark brown.
Since you like to look at ladies. Compare sofia vergara to jennifer lopez to snooki to maria menouns to kat deluna. Than compare chanel iman to christina milian to joan smalls (model) to jourdan dunn (model) to v.v brown(british singer).
The second group is what I’m talking about. Looking though vogue,Elle cosmopolitian,W my hsade of brown is not top pick nor is it the tan you see what women become.
Note: the first group of women are most latinas but of more euro or mild mestizo. The other group of afro latinas or those with more african. Sexiest afro latina in my book arlenis sos pena. Just OMG than sessilee lopez and zeo saldana. Best afro american gabrelle union. Best nubian queen alex wek. She is very dark skin but its fucking perfection.
You must live in cali. A tan white women here in FL doesn’t mean much. With the hispanics taking over where I live. They’re fucking nothing but painted barbies. They’re not the brown I’m use to but a fake. So its not even consider beauty to me verse a real brown skin women.
Maybe that shade of brown is not seen as the universal ideal at this point in time then.
Such is life.
The point is that it’s still a preference and one that is fluid and can exist without racist sentiment.
Something I don’t get why CUBE did.
I mean…. why?
I do sometimes wonder why they have to fly to America just to film a MV. They can do it in their own Country. Why trend with other K-ARTIST (no offense intended)?
Hopefully by their CB they have a wonderful offspring of whatever this they are doing. But once the girl, whoever she is, is taller than Seobie… SCREW YOU CUBE.
I should have applied so I could do the wanking-two-dicks-and-jizz-in-my-face-dance in the MV.
There’s a rumor going around that the whole craigslist thing was fake…?
Could be, was an awesome and completely plausible laugh either way.
And the white fangirls being trolled like crazy… I dunno, kinda funny (and it could’ve been any race/ethnicity; I would still think it’s funny ^^)
LOL. I wish it was a laughing matter.
this shit always cracks me up because here you have a bunch of people consuming music from people poorly mimicking r&b stars (yet they rarely list them as influences) yet being associated with them or having them in your videos is like THE WORST THING.
i’m glad this comment thread is better than the one on omona bc some stans were in SERIOUS denial.
I seriously LOVE your avatar… Cracked up when I saw it.
PREACH!!!!
There is this strange divide between Korean media and Korean society that is seen often in conservative Asia countries. Certain ideals on TV (gay fan-service, metro-sexuality, admiring foreigners) are completely opposite the way Koreans are expected to act off-stage. It’s like rather than having a closet, they project all their frustrations with society onto their idols. It’s like having your cake and eating it too (without feeling guilty afterward) since its all entertainment.
And “this” is how they’re supposed to know and culture themselves outside their uptight country? LOL okay then.
In the States, even though I’ve never been there, there are PLENTY of different ethnicities, they’re so blind I can’t even.
Being ignorant leads to stuff like racist jokes and blackfaces (kind of funny, but ridiculous). EDUCATE yourself.
Seriously, I was so happy when Jay had a black girl in his vid (of course, he’s part American), but she didn’t perform with him (boo.) and Junsu had thick girls.
With all the make-up, those girls might look “decent”, but that’s not gonna happen.
And WHAT is up with their hair…? Ugh, stop.
The theme for this CB of B2ST is “War and Peace”.
I think the concept + the hair was inspired on “Comic Heroes” or let’s put it on the latest trend… “The Avengers”.
Their hair looks absolutely dreadful. I’m really not liking this new direction kpop is going in with the kindergarten-level color wheel coordination. First YG and now Beast…
Woah lol I can’t believe you even posted about this. It was a fake. How could it even be considered for a minute as legit?
One of their models (seems legit, she’s got a pic with teh ultra sexy Doojoon) said that it was a jealous fangirl who made the craigslist thing.
Link?
Couldn’t find my original source, but here’s her twitter. https://twitter.com/angelbrazier
lol
A white model.
:o
They’re in the US lol are they supposed to discriminate against the easily available white models? She says somewhere on that twitter that there were people of all races.
Uh, what?
Last I checked, this was about them discriminating against everybody else, not white models.
No, there was no discrimination, sorry I think I must have wrote it funny?
I’m just saying there’s nothing wrong with the fact that there were white models. Especially if there were other races.
I figured the evidence would have been a black model posting pictures on set or something.
Oh well there were definitely shots of black guys around – I saw them on tumblr which is like impossible to find old shit on or I’d link you,but the mv is coming out soon anyway so we’ll see.
Black … GUYS.
Yeah black guys in Asian videos is still way different than having black Girls.
I havent really cared for b2st since that whole blackface incident not only that then they come out with some bullcrap like this. Makes me wonder what really goes on in their minds.