T-ara’s Bullying Scandal Exposes The Perils Of Confirmation Bias

So as you all know by now, T-ara is currently mired in a bullying controversy involving one of their own members, Hwayoung. Some have decided to throw kerosene on the dumpster fire, but fans, antis, and the general public aren’t without blame for the clusterfuck either.

It’s understandable that everybody is in a tizzy about the scandal (I’m certainly not without guilt), but people are posting basically whatever they can get their hands on now, desperately going back months and years to find positive or negative signs.

The problem? Most of it is rife with confirmation bias.

Confirmation biases contribute to overconfidence in personal beliefs and can maintain or strengthen beliefs in the face of contrary evidence. Poor decisions due to these biases have been found in military, political, and organizational contexts.

So yeah, I’ve seen antis posting stuff like this:

And I’ve seen fans posting stuff like this:

One side is furious at T-ara and are just laying into them. They are searching for anything and everything that they can interpret as bullying or harassment or abuse within the group. Generally speaking, they’re doing it sans context, and it’s because they want to believe rampant bullying is the reality of the situation. Similarly, the other side is focusing their efforts on finding pictures and videos of T-ara getting along swimmingly because it’s the reality they want to believe.

Honestly though, what does either thing mean? Nothing. The only thing that’s going on is a bunch of people who don’t know what reality is trying to confirm their own version of reality to themselves.

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Do I think there are problems within T-ara based on the series of tweets? Absolutely. Do I think bullying goes on behind the scenes in K-pop? Absolutely. Do I think all these groups get along like they try to portray publicly? Absolutely not.

However, what I’m saying is that, beyond the tweets themselves, most everything I see being posted after the fact is wrought with confirmation bias. People are now seeing what they want to see because they want to believe they know what’s going on with the scandal. Yet, the fact of the matter is that none of them know shit, so why bother with the charade?

The issue at hand is a serious one and it deserves to be dealt with and given the attention it deserves, especially if further information leaks out, but retroactively trying to look for reasons to defend or accuse T-ara is just an exercise in futility.

77 comments

  1. Fun shit yo. I love watching controversies where everyone is balls deep in it.

  2. I am enjoying this trainwreck.

  3. It’s just girl group. Who cares if they break up. They didn’t even make good music anyways. I always hated their music style.

    • The antis seem to care more than the fans, it’s an amazing sociological experiment.

      lol

      • Just a suggestion, but we should 4chan (?) this place up. We could raid certain allkpop or soompi articles for fun. I mean this in a fun way, no weird DDOS attacks or anything. Like we just comment or something. yeah. im borrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddd.

  4. Ngl, I can’t wait for the massive wank KKS’ big announcement tomorrow(?) will cause lol

  5. Immediately made me think of
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wl3gYKce1qzd768o1_500.jpg

    speaking of which, isn’t that the same girl from Dream High/T-ara? lol

  6. This is so confusing. It’s too much drama!

  7. Is bullying happen at another girlband?? I think Kara & SNSD have a fake friendship too :|

    • Soomi, 5dolls leader (Hwayoung’s sister group), was bullied out of the group by Chanmi and Eunkyo.

    • I think this even happens in boys group.

    • I like to think that they bitch at each other and make up afterwards by having huge orgies with lots of hair being pulled, skin being scratched and oil being used for obvious reasons.

  8. They don’t all like each other, and I can’t imagine that they do. Especially if they’re girls in groups, that’s asking for bullying. Though I do want to know what goes on behind the scenes with other girl groups. I’m asking for hair pulling. Unff

  9. The way I see it if they really are bullying her they need to settle the problem whether a member or 2 has to leave. Just need to fix the situation.

  10. Man, scandals like this need to happen more often. This shit is hilarious. XD

  11. I predict Boram’s getting booted out.

  12. Schizo_phrenia

    Digging up photos for them getting along or not really proves nothing >_>
    even if they did get along before people change and vice versa.
    Beside it’s not like idols can control who stays or leaves their bands/groups.
    Now I can’t wait for KKS’s big announcement :)
    Hope he kicks Boram’s ass out,it’s not like the rest are any better but at least they’re a little physically similar.

    • And who knows that they might hated each other from the start? Those pictures don’t mean shit.

      “And the nominees for ‘Best Actress’ are…”

  13. Bullying…sex scandal…DUI…
    I wonder what excuse the K-nazi’s can use
    now as to why they just hate the American
    entertainment scene.

    • Good point…

      American Ent Scene:
      2nd week of July: Tom & Kat divorce.
      3rd week of July: Jackson Family issues.
      4th week of July: The Cheating Saga.

      Korean Ent Scene:
      2nd week of July: CEO threatens rape victims.
      3rd week of July: Drunken driver and almost murder.
      4th week of July: Bullying and overwork.

      To a delusional kpop fan…
      American ent. scene: filthy and wicked.
      Korean ent. scene: flawless.. almost a role model to the worldwide entertainment industries.

      • ‘SOUTH KOREA IS BETTER THAN AMERICA AND EVERYTHING!!!!!!111 K-POP IS PURE AND ORIGINAL AND PRETTY AND HOLY!’

        Bitch fucking please. Sorry for the caps, but it had to be said/quoted.

      • That’s not a bad point, actually.

        Never realized it myself.

        :o

  14. Oooooo, Kpop is beginning to be more interesting again!! http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6xaor13Da1qat4duo1_500.gif

    Come on GD gay sex tape!!! I know it’s out there. Bitch can’t hide forever. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luma09MjJP1qjjb4s.jpg

    • You mean Jo Kwon…GD is a macho compared to him…If anyone has a gay sex tape, it’s Jo Kwon…OR Heechul…Although he would do it with a mirror…Heechul raping Heechul.

      • I would expect Jo Kwon to do that from the get-go, so it wouldn’t be a surprise for me. And Heechul…I don’t like him. I mean, yeah he’s this and that, but IDGAF about him much. I’m pretty sure he’s having many orgies with his military buddies.

        But GD, T.O.P., Taemin, or Siwon? It would give me life and I’ll die a happy fag hag that I am.

        • I’d do literally everything to find Siwon’s sextape, gay or straight. LITERALLY.

        • Schizo_phrenia

          G.D,T.O.P,Taemin (not Siwon -_-) adding Key and Jonghyun…
          I’d kill a bitch for their gay sex tapes :)

        • Oh yes, PLEASE! If you find me a fucking sex tape of Taemin I’ll cut off my toe out of gratitude.

    • Finding his sextape would be a wet dream come true!

  15. It is almost impossible not to speculate. CCM messes are too much

  16. I like to think every side is correct to certain extent. Bullying is something that can happen overnight.

    The girls might have been tight until Hwayoung injured herself. It’s easy to hate the person who’s not suffering with you and it’s easy to love the person who knows your pain.

    Considering how T-ara is being “managed” by KKS, it’s a logical conclusion that any sort of special treatment would end up bugging the other members.
    Whether Hwayoung truly fakes it or not is irrelevant, she’s receiving special treatment and that most likely ended up triggering some negative feelings in the rest.

    I don’t think the issue is black or white. Especially under such pressure and stress youngsters tend to switch from one mood to the other quickly; friendships of yesterday can become the hatred of tomorrow over the smallest issues. ( I bet if a member messed up Eunjung’s room she would flip out and maybe even physically hurt her )…

    I consider KKS as the real culprit in the story. He’s the evil puppet master – T-ara simply react to the strings being pulled.

    • I completly agree.
      apparently he’s also overworking them
      so: little sleep, constant stress plus little food (probably – you have to stay skinny as an idol) all leads to a group of tetchy girls ready to release their stress on some lucky victim

      and since hwayoung came into their group last( I assume there were problems before dani and the other one joined) and is now getting special treatment because of her injury, it’s her

    • Nothing is ever black and white.

      And yes, I always blame the companies more than the idols. The companies are the ones who fuck everything up from the start.

    • “It’s easy to hate the person who’s not suffering with you and it’s easy to love the person who knows your pain.”
      That’s why I hate guys who refuse to take my fingers up their ass.

  17. I just feel like hwayoung will probably end up getting kicked out of t-ara or something, but that’s actually good for her, as she will no longer be under the control of pedo KKS.

  18. Confirmation bias, delusional obsession with over analyzing scenes when everyone involved knows that they are on camera… in other words, kpop fans.

  19. But I’m without blame because well… I don’t even give a crap about them ^___^ (I’m special!!!! That’s what Barney told me) and just kinda giggle at any twitter/social network fight/misunderstanding.

    I never ever believe groups act exactly as they do offstage/camera as they do on camera. I roll my eyes at that whole “TVXQ 5 are like brothers!!!!!!! Their bond is just so… so….” STFU. I get tired of that ‘brother bond’ crap. Family members fight and in a heart beat won’t give a crap about you and don’t feel like they should just because they’re family. I don’t let my mind go any deeper than what I just see. I know they possibly could all be nice and dandy, just as it’s quite possible for them not to be like that. I just don’t let simple appearances sum up everything I’m seeing so… yeah….

    • honestly i agree with you , for me the only kpop group i truly believe they are true friends is shinhwa . they have proven it leaving sm together , opening a company together .. the rest meh specialy sm fags : dbsk oops they lost 3 of them , sujunk ahjussi keep losing members everytime, 2 pm they lost their leader . honestly for now the only group that is more than 5 years with all members is bigbang but even them i will belive them when they pass the ten years cap. the rest they are just too newbie or too irrelevant for me to take them seriously. when idols spill we are forever brothers while they have been together for one year i lol hard. girls group i just don’t care about them excpet brown eyed girls but i don’t consider them idols anway.

      • Big Bang were going to disband in a few years time. However with Daesung and GD’s accident, it brought them together again.
        Seungri said

        Top wanted to act
        Taeyang and Seungri wanted to go solo
        and GD wanted to write music for other idol groups beside Big Bang.

        It’s definitely true idol groups get over each other and want to leave.

        • honestly with you i love bigbang but if you had told me that dbsk , suju, or 2 pm would lose members before bigbang i would have laughed at you. i have always asked myself how those five work together they bascaly have nothing in common despite being in the same group. for me bigbang have always been five good coworkers. one of the reason i like them they spare me the whole crap we wil be together forever.

      • And honestly it’s not like those groups started by themselves either. They were formed by other people. Not saying that groups that legitly form on their own have a stronger bond (we see how many bands/groups that formed together not lasting long due to money, attention, solo/spotlight etc) but I get so bothered with fans and the whole “it’s not [group name] if one of them leaves or gets replaced!!!!! They can never separate! You’re not a TRUE fan if you don’t like all the original members!” It’s a frickin manufactured group! I never saw why it mattered if someone got replaced (again, maybe I’m used to seeing it elsewhere) It’s not like they appear to get along because they wanna, they kinda have to for the sake of their company and the name of the group. So if groups do have problems or not really friends with each other, well it shouldn’t be too surprising…

        • this is why i said that when they manage to last for really long it really mean they get along well and have true friendship aka shinhwa the rest meh they still have a long way to go

        • @dodo18
          Now I wouldn’t quite know all about how Kpop groups are like but with like the abundance of them (and monthly debut) I think many will break up first because of lack of sales before disagreement in a group. But I do know like with Johnny groups, many of them are still together (at least like um…whatever one came before SMAP and after them) with only more recently 3 people leaving their groups outta choice. I dunno how well they all ‘really’ get along, but I guess enough to still get that money ^^;; Majority have been together for over 5 or even close to 10 years. But their system, too, is also a bit different than Kpop’s so… that does play a role.

        • i think for johnny idol it’s different , first they make more money than most kpop group and often all members are given opportunity and often most of them don’t have enough talent to go solo . look at yamapi & jin songs how shity they are for now they are still selling since they have pretty face but in future don’t know! in kpop often lack of money, some members overpromoted for example look at 4 minute or they have problem with their company . those are some issue that make kpop idols hard to last. so when they manage to last you know they really are friends.

    • I always roll my eyes when groups call themselves a family and claiming they will be together forever. I know real friendship exists in some groups, but people just don’t know all that when they only known each other for a few years. I can’t believe some people buy that crap when groups say that. I read in an interview awhile back with Key from Shinee and he was asked what his members meant to him. Usually idols will automatically say “oh they are my family that will always be there for me; they help me when I’m going through a tough time” or some bullshit like that. Being the blunt person that he is, what Key said was “I don’t see them as family, but I don’t really consider them as my best friends either. They are just people I work with.” Apparently, I I heard he got shit from it, with people saying he was being rude or whatever. I would think that it would make people realize that not all groups are what they appear to be on screen, but I guess people were just too delusional to make the connections.

      • Key said that? Wow, it’s to be expected that he says something like that. At least he’s being honest. That’s rare in this kind of industry.

        Being brought up together with new faces doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to like your co-workers.

  20. mybiasbeatsyourbias

    I’m waiting until this newbie dani comes. This conflict withing the group was created or at least amplify by CCM new policy on the group. Its pretty much bitch vs bicth in this group. How is this a better experience? If you are into drama get you popcorn ready.

  21. Oppasapervert

    [Hwayoung Watch 2012] Hwayoung trends worldwide on Twitter

    http://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/xc2wy/hwayoung_watch_2012_hwayoung_trends_worldwide_on/

    for the lulz

    • -___- just as bad as those Bieber, Jonas, Miley, Monster/Gaga, Selena, Demi, Chris vs Drake all them other similar people worldwide trends that shows how fandoms whine about their favs like all the time… -___- Though I think one Drake cs Chris trend was pretty funny though ^^;; (well, when the trend is to crack jokes on someone lol…)

      • mybiasbeatsyourbias

        Drake vs chris thing was retarded and one of chris’ body guards suffer a serious head injury. While pussy ass chris had a gash on his chin.

        Can’t beat women or men. Tough luck for that brotha

        • Yeah I heard something that it was some other people who got into the fight not them themselves. But I remember some of the trends like “better beefs than Chis/Drake” or “reasons why chris/drake got into a fight” some of those tweets I was like “Lol really…?”

  22. All the fans (including anti) are cherry picking. Honestly though I’m not worried. If there is tension between T-ara, their company will force them to sort out the issue at hand. They might actually have a stronger bond once everything has been negotiated and all the tension is gone.

    Still though, bullying isn’t cool

  23. Also anyone believing it’s a publicity stunt?

  24. *not sure if I should laugh or take this issue seriously as of now*

  25. AKP going full retard with the articles.

  26. The only thing I see is that I like them bitches in that outfit.

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