JYJ & SM Entertainment settlement attempt fails, new court date set, nobody is surprised

JYJ (their representatives) and SM Entertainment attempted to reach a settlement in their court case recently to end their contract dispute, and to the surprise of absolutely nobody, it didn’t get anywhere. As a result, there will be another court date on September 13th.

SM Entertainment and JYJ have been in trial since last May, going through a total of six hearings to reconcile their differences thus far. However, at the end of last year, both sides failed to reach an agreement and hearings have resumed. In May, both sides expressed their points during the hearing and waited for an official verdict, but the court advised a mutual adjustment so another trial date was issued.

However, the two sides have failed to meet a mutual agreement once again. JYJ’s lawyer told Star News, “The difference in opinion between the two sides is too large. An agreement could not be reached so it was decided that another trial will take place around September 13th.”

The lawyer continued, “SM Entertainment’s side is to ‘forget about the past’, and our side is to settle all the accounts and issues in court. Both sides diverge in opinion, but the court is encouraging a voluntary agreement or a mediation until a decision has been made.”

After three years of both sides battling for an agreement, the chances of the court making the final decision have risen. When the SM Entertainment representatives exited the court, they answered the reporters’ questions saying, “There is nothing for us to say yet.”

Dunno about everybody else, but it’s pretty clear to me that SME isn’t all that confident in the outcome of the trial, as they’re basically just drawing this out as long as possible and will likely continue to do so. I mean, not this incident in particular, but the whole case seems to be one long drawn-out stall tactic to fuck with them as much as possible.

On the upside, at least people will stop thinking a TVXQ reunion is imminent like they were last week because of website profile updates.

Do I believe this will finally all end on September 13th? Nope. Fool me once…

113 comments

  1. Yeah, wake me up when all this is said, done, and over with. Seriously, this lawsuit should be titled “lolsuit” or “longsuit.” It’s tiring just hearing about it. And it’s clear SM is just doing this to toy with JYJ. SM knows they have a slight chance of winning the lawsuit so now they’re just keeping JYJ at bay. As for that whole TVXQ reunion fiasco, I knew it was bullshit. Just because some news sites or the Japanese site for that matter puts up all the group members’ names under TVXQ doesn’t automatically mean they’re getting back together. But of course, fans wanted it to be true. It’s unlikely at this point it will ever happen. To be honest, I thought that whole fiasco was a publicity stunt to draw attention to SM’s “Best of” album or it could have been a cover up of something else. It’s actually not the first time something similar happened before…..

  2. I don’t see why SM keeps drawing it out. From what I can tell JYJ will probably petition for SM to pay for legal counsel and that’s just gonna cost a fuckton. Especially when you’re on a litigation level this big. Might as well cut your losses and try to back out.

    • They’ve lost the plot though. It’s abundantly clear to me that this is less about intelligent business decisions at this point and more about vengeance, no matter how perverted.

  3. Schizo_phrenia

    Would someone PLEASE put this suit out of its agony ><
    They have already established themselves as JYJ and SM have already moved on with TVXQ what difference would this make :s

  4. off topic,what do you all think about Super Junior – Spy MV?

    • Schizo_phrenia

      Haven’t watched it yet but I’ve seen gifs…not impressed >_>
      but a lot of non-ELFs -cause ELFs are gonna like it no matter what- are praising the dance so I don’t know :s

      • i hate it…but i like the beginning part (Donghae & Eunhyuk part).I don’t know,but that part is so funny and unique :O

    • SHITTAY! :O But of course stans will make it seem like it’s the best thing to happen to this universe!

    • The mere existence of Super Junior goes against every law of nature and physics. It’s existence is pure sin and we should kill them with fire.

      • Schizo_phrenia

        Amen
        o.k maybe not all of them…some can actually sing.

        • That’s why most of their major ‘hits’ need massive amount of autotune. I swear, SuJu is the Kesha of kpop…If they weren’t Asian they had the most chances of breaking into the mainstream of global music market.

    • Still not as bad as Mr. simple, but still sucks JYP balls

      • My lovely cookie! I didn’t know to whom I should convey the perverted things in my mind right now… and then I saw you!

        I haven’t been able to think straight since this shit came out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nYkj8U4lMw
        (ignore the cutesy talk in between…)

        My head is exploding from the perversion that is unfolding. I can’t hold it back anymore – I am going to taint your not so innocent souls anytime!

        • Schizo_phrenia

          My Taemin >.,<
          last night I was watching "Replay" and I thought to myself how much Taemin had grown :D
          Back then I remember calling him cute and how much I wanted to squish him in a bone crushing hug.
          Now all I want is to rape him blindfolded and chained by handcuffs on his own bed over silk sheets
          leaving bruises with my teeth and hands all over his velvet skin making him moan like a whore so I can tape record him and listen to it whenever I need to.

        • Oh lord spank yourself on my behalf, about the cutesy talk, is fucking perfect I can add my own subs

          0:17 “this bouquet of rosas is for you to spank my slutty ass”

          0:26 “I’m imagining his rose is your cookie”

          2:06 “Let’s get drunk and then recycle the bottle IYKWIM”

        • Loving the perverted talk. Now I can let it all out.

          Warning: You’re underage? Then do not read what I am about to write or cry your virgin self to sleep if you decide to ignore my warning.
          I’m gonna go find Taemin and knock his wannabe chris brown manager out with a baseball bat drenched in the blood of 20 fan girls that I have met on the way.
          Then I will tie Taemin’s hot shaking body – suffering from anxiety – up with some hair
          that I have grown just for this occasion.
          I will also find the filthiest, smelliest public toilet so the sensation will be even more nauseous because everyone taking a crap in that shithole will be able to hear him whimpering from pleasure – or fear – while I thrust my hand under his ballsack and rescue his stiff cock that is bulging
          in his tight neon coloured pants.
          Then my mouth will be all over his balls and cock, swallowing his fine ass cum after I got him off better than any fucking porn star would. He will then be forced to shove his pulsating cock, still covered in my spit, to the bottom of my cunt in one swoop. Afterwards I will put a leash on him, take him home and put the scared and corrupted boy in a cage so I can stare at him 24/7.

          I seriously have the violent desire to fuck his soul out of his body – as you might
          have realized by now.

          Also: recycling is an awesome thing, saving plants and shit to make sure GD won’t die from withdrawal.

          And I think we are dragging down Schizo_phrenia into our own little dark world filled with genitals and body fluids.

        • @Ren’s cookie
          @Schizo_phrenia
          @No_Min

          you guys are some crazy ass bitches and I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

          http://imnotatoy.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/10_funny_celebrity_gifs3.gif

          i need some more fantasies like this for my excited self

          http://img.pew.cc/2011/08/katy%20perry.gif

          KEEP EM CUMMING LADIES

        • Schizo_phrenia

          @Min
          I’m crying tears of joy what you just wrote is better than any fantasy I’ve ever had…
          Brilliant, Beautiful simply Exquisite.
          I’m ashamed of the crab I wrote before you.
          Please please please video tape everything and send it to me I’ll make a golden statue in your honor if you do that.
          May I suggest that you keep the manager’s body in a freezer and feed him to Taemin, human flesh is good for the skin.

          @Kafkaf love ya too :)

        • Taemin is so fugly

        • @veryhappy

          Agree…

    • I have a fetish for men in suits.
      I have a thing for Yesung and Kyuhyun.
      Those 2 in suits = dyingggggg.

      anyway, I actually liked the song a lot, but the music video was stupid.
      Although with the choreo, some of it was pretty cool, especially when they transitioned between ryeowook and kyuhyun near the beginning.

      however, I’m a pretty big ELF so I mean I’m not sure my judgement should be trusted.

      • mybiasbeatsyourbias

        I like men in suits but bits gotta match. If you doesn’t match it throws me off. Especially having the right tie.

    • The video and song sucks pretty bad and I say that as an ELF. Usually the choreography will make me forget about how terrible their songs are (Mr. Simple) but this couldn’t be saved.

      Side note: Yesung’s fuckin hot as always

  5. What I think SM should do, is just get some settlement that’s confidential and do whatever shit they can to not get an official verdict out. Stop being a stubborn bitch and beg for forgiveness from JYJ. The moment that verdict comes out, that precedent, oh geez that precedent. It’s gonna fuck SM in the ass every time some trainee feels unfairly treated.

    Unless I’m horribly misinformed and there’s already a precedent from Hangeng or whatever artist they shittily treated.

    • Hangeng’s case didn’t change hardly anything. It obviously didn’t help speed up this lawsuit with JYJ and SM. :o

    • Schizo_phrenia

      Actually IATFB wrote an article recently about the effect this lawsuit has on the way trainees/idols are treated…
      And I agree with him.
      I don’t think that this lawsuit would have any effect at all.
      I doubt that there’ll be any precedent as a result of this case.
      At least SM will make sure there won’t be any :s
      cause as you said if there is one SM is doomed.

    • What precedent?

      No group wants to deal with this shit. :o

  6. Is everyone sleeping or something? No discussion lol.

  7. The most funny thing is how SM Entertainments efforts to push JYJ out of the Korean music industry actually lead to the global recognition of the threesome.

    JYJ is allowed to experiment and grow as artists without restrictions exactly because SME keeps them away from regular idol promotion.

    Meanwhile DBSK…
    http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/U-know_Aki/TVXQ%20Gif-Gif/13092109347.gif

    • I disagree with the conclusion you made. The blacklisting only made them get the pity support. The public saw the good old underdog vs evil company and began to support JYJ. Regardless if they were able to get onto the music shows, I think they would still have grown as artists. Maybe they wouldn’t have been forced to go out globally for an audience, but I’m confident that they still would have experimented, especially considering the way their company operates. They could throw out jackshit and still receive love from the public and fans because of the evil company sympathy and the die hard cassies left over from TVXQ.

      • PS: I’m sorry for being all over the place in that comment. That’s one shitty comment I wrote.

        • You are very quick to notice the superiority of my words, I like that. When I become the despot of the world I might consider a position for you ;3

          Come on, in that particular song Flowsik totally sounds black and Junsu…he’s gayer than ever – though he looks pathetically unattractive as well…

      • You speak of pity support as a negative thing yet it’s one of the most commonly used popularity boosters – Eminem and Hwayoung can write books about it…

        Also, we are talking about South Korea where Rainbow’s shirt lifting dance had to be changed in order to promote the song.
        Korea sets a limit to experimenting and everything too provocative – whether visually or verbally – gets banned or advised to change.

        Not that JYJ really grew apart from their idol career however the fact they are blacklisted gives them the opportunity to just do what they want.

        Btw, no idol really grows or experiments as an idol. They are bound to the concept of the company, the group, their own. They might move outside their own and group concept but they will never create something that’s disagreeable with the company – you can’t possibly grow as an artist with restrictions in front of you. ( aka SNSD will never pole dance in a Snoop Dogg video )

        In the end I can care less since I don’t listen to DBSK nor JYJ. I only know Tarantallegra and I can only listen to it imagining Junsu is actually a good looking gay entertainer and Flowsik is his black boyfriend.

        • I never said it was bad.

          I would try and argue with you. But most people hate it when I do.

          You’re right. You’re correct. I’m absolutely wrong on all points. I agree with you completely. Flowsik is a black boyfriend.

        • Dude, you can argue, just don’t go into your racist/homophobic shit and don’t start spouting off some emotional nationalism bullshit that I’m forced to read on Korean/Japanese message boards.

          :o

        • What? That’s the fun stuff. If one doesn’t argue about gay people, inferior races, and master culture, what fun topics are left? I say, people just suck the fun out of things on the internet.

        • Why did you just register another account? :o

    • JYJ’s music is even worse/less original than dbsk’s mediocre korean music. “Ayyy Girl” and their first album sucked. 2nd album was still disappointing. there is zero “growth”/”experimentation” besides junsu’s hilarious mv (but the song itself is a typical mediocre autotuned track).

      JYJ aren’t even focused on music now, it’s junsu that is carrying the group in terms of music/performances (he should just go solo imo). yoochun and jaejoong are pursuing acting and their skills have sadly deteriorated. the main reason they left SM wasn’t because they wanted “artistic freedom” lol

      also what *global* recognition has JYJ alone gotten besides a failed american debut and a few concerts? the only reason JYJ are still relevant anywhere is because of what tvxq did as 5 (under SM) and their delusional fans.

  8. Off topic
    Asianjunkie blows now. It’s so “boring”? People in the comment section have taken the reputation too seriously. I realize this place is known as a bunch of assholes and “trolling”. But it fucking sucks down here now. We have pretentious fucks acting all enlightened, we got off topic bitches who think it’s fun and cool to consistently talk about something else, we have psuedo intellectuals (like me) clogging up this place, etc., etc.

    But it wasn’t always like this. We were once the best comment section in all of kpop. We didn’t get so off topic, we didn’t get so fucking perverted to the point of annoyance and we never weren’t so hypocritical.

    But honestly, something’s gotta happen, the comments have been consistently shitty the past few days.

    Cue people calling me out and cursing me out.

  9. Breaking News….T-ara car accident was reported before the actual accident…wtf lol

  10. Not sure if I like this side of K-pop anymore…

    But whatever, I deleted mostly everything that’s classified at K-pop on my iPod lolz. It got boring. So so soooo boring. Even Block.B and SPiCA, my favorite groups. I don’t see the hype over it anymore I guess… I’ve grown up, I have other things on my mind such as planning my future….

    Aside from that personal moment, they should stop fooling around and… yeah, I have nothing.

    • that’s kinda the same for me. i was crazy and delusional about it when i was younger, then i grew to like it it but not love it. after getting irritated with a lot of things, i took it off of my ipod. now i have it on cuz i miss the catchy tunes that made me fall out of it.

      as people always say on this glorious site, they fell in love with the genre but hate everything that comes with it. that’s what ruined it for me, but then i just decided to react to the negatives with trolling and penises

      http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8f7qt07jX1qzrs91.gif

      • Lol, please do troll on :) I love reading all the random stuff in the comments on this website

      • Honestly, I still love the music and (well, some) idols.

        I mean, I’m not delusional though.
        I never was.
        That’s why I like this site so much.

      • mybiasbeatsyourbias

        This shit ain’t crap
        Fucking tweebs, I am more than willing to link porn if it was allowed

  11. …lol at assuming a reunion because people listed members of JYJ under tvxq.

    I pretty much always think of jaejoong, junsu and yoochun as members of dbsk before I think of them as members of jyj.
    Not an uncommon thing for people to do.

    And besides, once the court case is over, it’s not like JYJ would ever reunite with DBSK because frankly, I’m pretty sure there is a lot of bad feelings/betrayal and shit between the two.

    • I don’t think it’s impossible for JYJ and DBSK to reunite far into the future. I mean if you think of the time they must have spent together, they were together more than family is. You’d think they can get over some issues, especially if DBSK means as much to them as they always claim.

      Other groups that had weird/bad falling outs have later talked about reuniting if possible.

      Not that I’m holding my breath. If they came back, they’d never meet expectations anyway.

      • Well, yes, it’s not impossible.
        But I was just referring to as soon as the lawsuit is done.
        Because that’s what the rumours were saying.

      • “Not that I’m holding my breath. If they came back, they’d never meet expectations anyway”

        THIS
        I keep saying that IF DBSK were to reunite as five they wouldn’t be the same no way. They’ve been seperated for almost three years (which is a pretty long time in K-Pop land). And who knows. JYJ may have said they wanted to reunite but their minds might change by the time this lawsuit ends or they leave military service. Then you also have to think about the fandom. Fans are so confused of who to support. At this point it’s a very slight chance TVXQ getting back together.

      • I’m not sure that being together all of the time would create a bond, especially considering that pretty much all Kpop bands don’t like each other (in their own groups). T-ara is a perfect example of this. Also add the elements pride and betrayal and you have five men that won’t reunite.

        But yeah, even if they were to reunite the majority of fans wouldn’t come back. Most of them have left for younger pretty boys to wet their pants over. You’re right: they won’t be the same

        • … “T-ara is a perfect example of this.” as in the only example of this with any sort of real evidence right? I’m not saying it’s necessarily a positive bond, but living and working together that much, you’re going to know a lot about a person, and knowing a lot about a person generally means knowing enough to forgive their flaws. You can’t really even use t-ara to compare to DBSK, because the situation with T-ara revolves around a new member of their group.

      • Pfffffft- just because a group of people spend a lot of time together and know each other well doesn’t mean they get along. It don’t mean shit 

        http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m69ltv7jVY1r1wz7n.gif       

        This is the case for pretty much every Kpop group. Look at how well groups like SNSD and SUJU get along. They’re not exactly friendly unless the camera is on them. The KARA members don’t even spend time with each other,  Amber beat up Krystal, the list goes on.  We can even expand this to other places, like spouses that divorce each other, parents in different countries that kill their own kids for ridiculous reasons, siblings that never talk (actually the case with Micky/ Yoochun), and many other cases. Lots of time spent together doesn’t always help form a bond between people that will help them overlook differences and flaws or be good to each other and get along well. Some people just aren’t as fantastic or sexy as you and I and can’t get along well.

        http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8b8asCDMX1rp0b9d.gif 

        Some people are just assholes and can’t get their heads out of their asses. Basically, you can spend all of the time in the world with someone, but still hate their guts

        With T-Ara (as shown in a more recent article on AJ- I prolly should’ve mentioned that earlier instead of assuming that you already saw it), Soyeon spoke of the jealousy that would spark fights among the members. You want to tell me that five of some of the biggest Kpop celebrities desperate for the spotlight wouldn’t do the same? If groups like Super Junior are flipping over tables because of some members getting more attention than others, then TVXQ is just as likely to do the same. She also talked about the CEO making decisions that didn’t help the group. CEOs aren’t going to form groups based on the fact that they’re friendly with each other- it’s gonna be to make the most money. That means that you could be shoving people together to live and work with each other for years that might not even get along. (Side note: you stated that DBSK said that they were close, which they did many times, but what groups don’t say they get along famously? That’s all fake and edited for fans. There’s a reason why eight hours of programming will be filmed with only about an hour broadcasted in the end, as with Star King, or that the use of scripts in reality shows pops up as breaking news from time to time. It’s all to shine people in the best light. Tell them what to say and how to act (which Jaejoong said that SM did, assigning roles to each member), and you got people that actually hate each other but act all lovey dovey to get the fans to love and support the groups). 

        These men obviously had differing opinions on the company and their future, and I don’t hate or blame them for the decisions they made based on those opinions. Each side wanted the best for themselves, they just thought that what they eventually decided for themselves the was best. However, that doesn’t mean that they don’t hate each other. With harsh tweets from JYJ about TVXQ for things like “leaving them for the enemy” and Changmin saying that JYJ was evil (or weren’t human or the devil…. I forget) for calling SM the enemy shows that they haven’t forgiven each other for their choices, but that they are resentful of the other. These guys seem to have let the betrayal and pride come in between the groups and it doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon. They aren’t desperate enough to get back with the other since both groups are still doing well with their activities.

        Maybe, if it got to the point where one or both groups needed the other to carry on in the Kpop industry that they may be forced to put past issues aside and work together, but it currently doesn’t look that way seeing how fine each group is doing separated. They still have enough fans supporting the two groups that neither need to join again. I think that they should join, but not under SM. They could then still have a hold over the fans that are still deducted Cassies and do what they want. They’ll also survive for a longer period where more and more “pretty boy” groups are taking the former Cassies. 

        • Well now that you wasted your time with a TL;DR I’m just gonna point out that I never said (basically) that it means they get along, I said it means they should be able to get past differences for a bigger cause, because after working and living together so long, their relationship is far from shallow.

      • Oooooohhhhhhhh so you’re saying that because they were with each other for so long that they must have a deep relationship and with that deep relationship they should be able to get past differences to get to a bigger cause.

        Some problems with this: they had no more of relation
        ship than any other band. Spending time together as a group doesn’t mean anything. Were you here during the saesang account thing? If not, ask herpaderp about anyone in Kpop. Those people aren’t friends (with the exception of a few people, most in YG), they’re co-workers. Basically, they had no real “relationship”.

        Secondly, the bigger cause was their career in the future. The members of JYJ thought it would hurt to stay in SM, the current members of TVXQ thought it would be dangerous for them to leave. Maybe up until the split Yunho and Changmin thought that they should leave too (considering the tweets from JYJ) but decided not to last second. There was no more bigger cause than that.

        Lastly, considering that the “bigger cause” was their future career, they won’t be joining anytime soon because of how pissy they are with each other and how they’re still doing fine on their own

        UNF

      • You know what? Maybe we should just agree to disagree for right now. I feel an argument coming up and I have neither the time nor energy to deal with that at the moment. Maybe later we can continue this conversation because I do find your point to be interesting….

        • I don’t feel a need for a real argument, because I see your point as well, I absolutely don’t think they’re much more than co-workers (in many cases, although I’m sure there’s some friendships out there.) But they have usually been working together for a while. To me it isn’t about “closeness” or “deepness”, but very simply about what’s normal. DBSK should, in my opinion, know how to work well together after 5 years. It should be normal to them. But I come from a very different culture. I can really only speculate.

          ( btw just saying i was team homin before dbsk even separated /hipster )

      • Lol at the hipster comment. I never really got into TVXQ that much except for sexy ass Changmin. I cannot tell you the amount of fantasies I have that must be completed with that elf-warrior-looking-sex-creature before I die

        • ROFLMAO what.. those words are beautiful.

          and I agree, never super into DBSK, but Changmin is just about unmatched in his sex lordliness within SM.

  12. mybiasbeatsyourbias

    Was I the only fan that knew a reunion was impoossible? It was a breach of contract over wages. That is like a death kiss in the business world. Next to hangeng’s lawsuit dealing with labor issues. Which is also a death kiss.
    In the eyes of SM, JYJ has bit off the hand that once control them. Oh you don’t go back. Its like breaking up with lover that used to beat the shit out of you or gave you bad sex. You wouldn’t go back. You know they want get better.

  13. mybiasbeatsyourbias

    Is anyone hating junsu with blonde hair?
    I just want some clippers
    His hair is so fucking fug

    • There aren’t very many people in Kpop that have the ability to pull off blonde hair, in my opinion

      • mybiasbeatsyourbias

        I just wanna shave his head then sit on his face as punishment.
        The blonde makes him more faggy than usual. This fangirl doesn’t apporve.

        • Lol- everyone has an obsession with face sitting on this website, and usually for punishment.

          Am I the only one that would be rewarding someone by sitting on their face???!?!?

        • Things like this make me appreciate when idols do bad things.

          Fapping to this tbh.

          /lololol irrelevant comments all over this post sorryyyy

  14. Why are you fuckers submitting theses as comments?

    • mybiasbeatsyourbias

      I had to much sugar

    • *hippy voice*

      TO EXPRESS OURSELVES!!!!!! AND WE DON’T CARE IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT BECAUSE WE WON’T EVER CONFORM TO YOUR IDEAS OF WHAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE LIKE- WHY CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT US FOR WHO WE ARE?!?!

  15. sh*t, this post’s comments just illustrated the point ’bout other jyj – sm case article perfectly:
    - tvxq/jyj stans r depressing ’bout fame/popularity as f*ck
    - other kpop fans give no f*ck ’bout this case
    - sanity is found somewhere in kpop fandom but expecting a tiny bit percentage only.
    - new sh*t please

    i’m being entertained for sure =)

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