Netizens Are Competing To See Who They Can Vilify Most: KARA Or T-ara

So if you haven’t heard by now, KARA‘s comeback is currently being sullied by controversy. I covered their Dokdo/Takeshima Catch-22 previously, but since then things have only gotten worse because … netizens.

KARA has been pulled into several debates and controversies following their comeback. For one, their suggestiveness of their choreography has raised concern, along with their outfits. For “Pandora,” KARA wanted to show the appearance of being mature women, but fans are concern that the choreography is too suggestive for ’94er Kang Jiyoung.

Except the music programs themselves didn’t ban the choreography and god knows they’ll take any opportunity to get on their high horse about women and sexuality.

So … who cares?

In addition, KARA was seen wearing a stage costume on SBS “Inkigayo” for the track “Miss You,” reminiscent of a Gucci swimwear. They looked identical to Gucci’s 2008 Spring/Summer swimsuit collection, which is yellow with a black and white bow on one shoulder.

Uh … okay?

Again … who cares?

Unfortunately, this is not the last controversy KARA has unexpectedly found themselves in. Recently, KARA’s vans have been found parking in handicap spots at a rest stop area for approximately 15-20 minutes. Because KARA is popular and the youth and young adults look up to them, many have criticized that KARA should have not parked in handicap spots.

Those 15 minutes spent in a handicap spot that those vans KARA’s handlers drove them around in have ruined the children of Korea! Oh. Oh! OH! The humanity! How will I talk to my kids after this?!

If all of this seems rather petty and fucking stupid to you … well … it’s because it is. It’s a fucking witch hunt and all of it is because Gyuri intelligently dodged a loaded question about the Stupid Fucking Islands In The Middle Of The Sea instead of saying, “HOLY SHIT! FUCK THOSE DIRTY JAP MONKEY CUNTS! DAE HAN MIN GOOK!

So the retaliation for logical neutrality is insane netizens picking at everything they do, trying to find ways to destroy them.

Sound familiar?

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Well … speaking of T-ara, Hwayoung recently spoke out about their struggles.

“Having come across articles about Eunjung unni’s leave from her drama, my heart felt uneasy. It is true that there were confrontations due to differences in opinions with the T-ara members while I was promoting as part of T-ara. However, with the stories about bullying going around and the situation growing worse, my heart was in pain. Both sides have also been really upset and hurt by the distorted facts [that have come out].

However, there were times when I was happy while we were all under one roof, so I want to forget about the past and want us to cheer each other on with smiles on our faces. You all showed so much love, care, and attention to T-ara, so I’m very sorry for having caused concern and worry through this incident to everyone.”

Reasonable enough, though I don’t think it’s a stretch to say we can all see where Kim Kwang Soo‘s influence kicks in.

Still, in terms of credibility, it’s a whole lot better than what netizens have constantly been trying to dig up, so there’s that.

Anyway, T-ara apparently got together in a group and wrote a letter of apology as well. It concluded with:

“For our parents who live for us, for our fans who’ve continued to stay by our side, for the people who listen to our music… and for those who we’ve worried and disappointed, we’ll work harder to receive your forgiveness instead of being frustrated. We genuinely apologize. We also hope that you give your support and love to Hwayoung, who must be having a harder time than we are. We too will always support Hwayoung. From all of T-ara.”

The rest of the letter is similar, which, again, seems reasonable enough given the circumstances.

So netizens reacted reasonably and logically to this, right?

Oh you naive child.

Several netizens tried to prove that the letter was not written by any member of T-ara by comparing it with their previous handwritten materials. Netizens dug up old screenshots of TV programs that aired girls’ handwritten letters, as well as signed letters and notes, claiming that someone else from CCM wrote the apology.

On August 30, CCM issued a statement regarding the handwritten letter. It read, “T-ara’s apology was written by the group’s oldest sister, Q-ri. All the members got together to pitch in, and it was Q-ri who wrote the letter in behalf of the group.

Netizens must be out of tinfoil hats at this point.

I mean, it’s one thing to suggest that the letter was a public relations piece controlled by Core Contents Media. That’s logical and likely, in my opinion. But to say the letter itself was fabricated? The fuck? Why would they even do that? There’s no fucking point behind it.

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So guys, what do y’all have on the scoreboard? Which group is winning the “Pissing Off Netizens And Driving Them To Levels Of Paranoia & Insanity Previously Thought Unattainable” award?

I think you gotta go with T-ara for their overall body of work and ongoing madness, but I think they’re on the downside of their pissing off netizen careers. KARA, on the other hand, still have a ton of potential bottled up since they’re sitting on a nationalistic powder keg that has the potential to piss off not one, but TWO nations.

148 comments

  1. fans are concern that the choreography is too suggestive for ’94er Kang Jiyoung. <— Minzy. /all I have to say.

    I've noticed a trend of picking on Kara lately and I just wonder why. I mean T-ara has the controversy. Easy targets. Why Kara?

    LEAVE MY WIVES ALONEEEE.

    • Oppasapervert

      They are picking on KARA b/c in the only foreign market where they as a country could have any actual penetration their beloved numba 1 SNSD is second fiddle to KARA.

      Seriously KARA wasn’t even top 5 in Korea until they caught on in the Japanese market by sacrificing over a year of P.R work there.

      • Oppasapervert

        and by “actual penetration” I meant in the worlds second largest music market.

      • Huh, makes sense.

      • Would they actually do that though? I guess that I don’t see the point of risking the success of KARA for making SNSD rise up in their place. Wouldn’t they just want to push snsd up too without being kara down? Spreading the non-exist wave is so important and all…..

        • I’m probably jumping to conclusions. It’s just that whenever I watch any Korean media the amount of privilege and doting that SNSD members receive is insane.

      • OHMYGOD yes. And then their crazy ass fans have the audacity to say that “they worked hard and their talent to be NUMBUH WAHN!!!!”

        -__- no bitch. They were over-exposed, past the freaking limit.

        Can’t forget super junior too- I’m sure there’s more, those are just the first two that came to mind

        • But that is Korean media in a nutshell.

          I’ll scratch your back you scratch mine yay we all profit.

          But KARA isn’t like that because they make the majority of their money in Japan.

      • They honestly should say its Japan’s an fly their asses back before Korea has time to blink from the shock. The Korean media wouldn’t treat them kindly anyway, seeing how they are portrayed already. Sooner or later, something will happen. Might as well get out of Korea now and go to the real money maker

        Japan would welcome them with open arms and lots of money

        • Oppasapervert

          But you know parents and I think DSP is calling the shots either way.

          It blows my mind that DSP created FIN.K.L and is such a shite company.

    • Basically, because KARA don’t have a super-power company behind them to protect of these controversies. If some ‘scandal’ happen the proportions would be higher because it is a bigger group, so the media coverage would be more profitable because the entertainment industry would have to provide information to both countries.

      In fact the old same story about Korea vs. Japan always gets high ratings on sites/TV

    • Dokdo/Takeshima

  2. Another stroke of genius to announce their comeback the same time as the apology

    • Exactly what I was thinking. I’m sure they had a lot of time to reflect about the controversy between drama schedules, car accidents, sudden contract terminations and rehearsals for yet another comeback.

  3. My two favorite idol groups trolling netizens. Kpop life is good.

  4. I don’t get the whole KARA witch hunt, though. T-ara had something to set it off (Hwayoung’s departure), but what triggered all those so-called controversies about KARA? The sexy outfits, the unanswered Dokdo/Takeshima question?

    Feels like T-ara’s controversy was no fun anymore and they decided to pick another group.

    • I think that Kara attracted controversy solely because the issues Korea has with Japan is a very sensitive subject, so everyone is already up in arms about it.

      It wouldn’t have mattered WHAT Kara said/did in that situation, they would still have garnered controversy for it.

      • It wouldn’t have mattered WHAT Kara said/did in that situation, <– this is extremely true. I mean, as pointed out in this article, basically every "scandal" that's come up has caused me to be like "so? who cares?"

        It's the type of mistakes K-pop idols make like 24/7.

      • Agreed. The perfect catch-22.

  5. Yep, I saw this coming. However T-ara comeback is already getting more attention than these ‘Kara scandals’ because people know DSP sucks.

  6. Who is the one on the far left?

  7. Right when Kara releases an amazing song netizens have to fuck everything up (wasn’t a huge fan of Step).

    If Kara survives this criticism, I wouldn’t be surprised if DSP just kept them in Japan. I doubt the money they make in Korea comes anywhere close to what they make in Japan.

    And that outfit criticism? I mean….. what? SM can buy songs second hand from High School Musical, but the moment Kara wears clothes that look like Gucci they’re crucified?

    I’m confused nonetheless.

    Probably just insecure fangirls who are pissed they can’t look like Jihyun.

    • wait does SM actually buy songs from HSM?

      • Yeah
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZrZ-47ewPs

        Most of SNSD’s Japanese album was bought too. I don’t quite mind though.

        • And I guess that’s not HSM, but you get the point. I kind of assumed it was cause I knew he was in the movie.

        • Nearly all of their “title track” songs were bought or plagiarized, like Juliette, Gee, Genie, Run Devil Run, Mirotic, Pinochio, Hot Summer, etc.

          What else do we expect from idol groups- to write their own music? I feel like that’s a too much to expect from people that train for years to get into the music industry

        • I don’t expect idols to write any of there music at all. In fact, most of the time it bothers me when fans gush about an idol that was capable of writing lyrics or helping produce a batshit MV (hyomin).

          I expect the entertainment companies to put a little bit of effort, though. Buying the songs makes the music feel more manufactured than it already is. But we’re still talking about pop music here.

          Basically, if the songs turn out amazing (SNSD’s Japanese Album) I really could care less. My main point is why fangirls care that Kara can pull of “plagiarized Gucci

      • Kafkaf but I thought jonghyun wrote the lyrics to juliette?

        By bought do you mean bought the music/beats?

        • Yeah.

          This is just for me, but it’s one thing when people write lyrics. I kinda feel like anyone who’s been through first grade to learn how to make poems knows how to write lyrics. Songs are another thing to me. That’s why I freaking love Zico- he is an actual artist that was naturally talented that wrote lyrics and songs.

          Plus, he’s hot as fuck. Those rice-cake lips (I know herpaderp- that’s your term. It just works well here), his lean thighs, tight butt….. UNF UNF UNF AWWWWL UP IN HERE

      • replying this way b/c it’s easierrrr

        anyway well, it doesn’t take much skill to write lyrics but it takes skill to write lyrics that flow and aren’t completely stupid.

        i mean, i don’t think his lyric writing is profound or anything but the fact that he did write lyrics means that he does have a passion for it.

        zico is the shit man. but don’t forget about kyung!

  8. ha! they got mad because that swimsuit looks like their new outfits I wonder what they think about samsung stealing all apple shit that was the real deal

  9. KARA in the 2nd picture are some ugly ass girls, but at least their physical appearance match their vocal talent….both are horrible

  10. Because those chicks SUCK!!! I know I’m not the only one who see that

  11. Haha. Crazy bitches on the internet.

  12. @Mochi

    Japan is the largest digital market and market worldwide… BUT And artists popular in the US are generally popular worldwide to some extent, so Lady Gaga can top German charts, as well as Japanese charts, but AKB48 can’t top the US charts (or German charts). So the impact of US musicians is still greater. The Japanese market is still huge, and 75% domestic, but for example, Lady Gaga can sell out crowds all over Asia which AKB48 can’t do here. They might be able to sell out a few concerts, but they don’t have the same “international” appeal that artists popular in America have. Still not shabby

    • Wow I really messed up the ordering of that…

    • I know~
      not saying Jpop is more popular than US

      Just their market is the highest earning right now :|

      IDK…when did I say Jpop is more “popular” or widespread or w/e…….

      • It wouldn’t surprise me if Japan was the number one market for actual music sales.

        But sales of albums and singles is probably just a fraction of the total income for the world’s top-earning musicians:

        http://www.therichest.org/entertainment/highest-paid-musicians/

        No Japanese on that list.

      • Couldn’t you attribute that to how incredibly expensive Japanese albums are? Last I heard albums went for $40 USD.

        I’m not sure that can define how “highest earning” their market is, considering most US artists make their real big bucks touring (e.g. why Lady Gaga is on tour practically every second of her career).

  13. I seriously hope that someone shouts the same Dokdo/Takeshima question at the most popular groups like SNSD, 2NE1, etc.

    They won’t answer it, either.

    Getting a bunch of popular groups together in the same “no comment” camp is probably the only way to diffuse this. Antifans won’t have much ammunition if their own bias is roped into the same dilemma.

    Either way, Kara should be alright in the long run. It’s nowhere near as big an issue as the T-ara thing was.

    I think T-ara is probably still fucked, since nothing that has come out from either Hwayoung or T-ara really did anything to dispel the idea that Hwayoung was outcast or bullied in some way.

    Besides, even before the Hwayoung situation, T-ara was already going downhill. The additional members pissed off a lot of fans.

    Plus, everyone universally hates KKS. It’s hard to think of T-ara without picturing that smirking douchebag. A lot of people now see supporting T-ara as indirectly supporting KKS.

    • I feel like the bigger companies would have more of a control on the press and make sure they don’t ask the serious questions :|

      I’m surprise no one asked SNSD that comment since they’re suppose to be the national group and all. Apparently there was a RUMOR SNSD sang Dokko is our land in a concert rehearsal but there’s no footage of that.

      • I heard about some song like that. I think I remember something like how it was decided Dokdo was Korea’s or something a while ago and SM gave them some weird ass song where they’re HAHAing all of the place about it being Korea’s. I’m pretty sure that if this happened they weren’t the only group to do this

        I’m going to try and find it

        • I am sure Siwon wrote and composed that song.

        • @No_Min

          YOU GENIUS! Why didn’t I think of that?

          We can’t exclude his father. I’m sure he had a part in the production too

        • His father jizzed in his face to give him God’s enlightenment.

        • If they did, I’m sure it was long before they were promoting in Japan. No way would they do that now.

          Although if they did do that in the past, they’ll probably get a free pass from the Korean nationalists.

  14. ACCORDING TO NETIZENS!! KKS IS BEHIND ALL OF THE KARA ATTACK Y’ALL~

    Recently, Kim Kwang Soo has been using Newsen to release negative articles about KARA to obviously try and deflect the attention on them. Ever since KARA’s comeback, Newsen has been the first to release articles on anything negative on the girls. Newsen released an editorial-like report on the Dokdo issue and slammed the girls several times for it.

    http://www.netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/08/netizens-catch-on-to-kim-kwang-soo.html

    LOL~~ XD

    • Would you be surprised if I said that that doesn’t sound like such a stretch?

      He did go to KEMA and asked the board that KARA members be banned from the industry if they ended up leaving DSP over the contract dispute.

      Vendetta, anyone?

  15. When will Koreans finally realize that people saying shit on the internet is just people saying shit on the internet? It’s not very indicative of public action because the almost-anonymity the internet provides makes people say stupid hyperbolic shit. Like that protest against T-ara being organized by a group that had ~*~OVER 300,000~*~ members online that couldn’t field more than a handful of people at a real, physical event.

    • Internet is a lot more relevant in Korea because all generations seem to be involved in this shit. The majority of people from older generations in the western world don’t give a damn about the internet and it just doesn’t have the same status over here – some older peeps are still thinking the internet is mainly used by crazy, suicidal, antisocial people who are potential columbine imitators that eat small catholic children for breakfast and fuck each other in the anus while praying to the westboro baptist church to free their pathetic souls. In Korea, I am sure even the grannies use the internet to troll while their old vaginas keep rotting away.

      Also why would you think that only T-ara’s fans were pissed about the controversy? (since you stated that they can’t even get that many people to come to a real event which basically only fans are interested in). I am sure the people signing up for that petition/group/whatever were some bitter assholes who never get hot chicks like the ones from T-ara to fuck them, stupid school girls philosophizing about how to kill Siwon to eat his balls, and bored older ladies that get no dick cause their life is basically over after they have turned 30.

      • Who doesn’t like a MILF?

        • I’ll get back at you when I am 40, then.

          Though I don’t want any children – I hate those fuckers and I would seriously destroy them. I am just gonna adopt one for a week so you can bang me – afterwards I will donate it to “Hello Baby” so they shit, spit and puke on all the fuckers in kpop I hate.

        • @Min

          I’ll be surprised if you don’t have any kids as much as you like it raw, with lots and lots of jizz

      • I didn’t mean to imply only fans cared about that planned protest. I’m saying that people whine A LOT on the internet and overreact to the slightest things because that’s just what people have done on the internet since it was made.

        There’s a good reason the internet is actively ignored in other societies beyond social stigma. A person can hammer out a tweet or a blog post or whatever saying literally anything they want and unless they’re making a credible threat against People Who Matter (basically the political elite) they are essentially completely anonymous if they are familiar with how to make dummy accounts and obscure themselves properly.

        That makes people feel safe saying they will do shit that they would never actually follow through with. Like show up at a TV taping of a music show to throw rice cakes at some pop group. Or boycott their music. Yes, people still buy things after spending a lot of time proclaiming they will never buy that thing because they feel slighted or insulted or disappointed in some way.

        Here’s a good picture example I remember off the top of my head, but it’s very widespread with internet shitfests and not just limited to video games or even media.

        http://i54.tinypic.com/2k0npc.jpg

        People will still buy T-ara music for all the fire and brimstone that is being thrown around on the internet. Because what people say on the internet is largely irrelevant compared to the amount of attention it gets for being incendiary.

        On a related note I also wish CNN would stop reading random people’s tweets as news.

    • Whether or not they show up in person at some rally, that was still a lot of people who were pissed off at T-ara – even if it was only privately.

      Advertisers take note of these types of things.

      We see it in America all the time: if there is some controversial issue or person, advertisers will pull their ads from a TV or radio show or drop a celebrity endorser (ex: Tiger Woods) because it’s simply not worth any negative association.

      In T-ara’s case, it made total sense for companies to disassociate themselves since the potential downside far outweighed the upside if they were to stick with them. Whether the accusations were false or not is irrelevant from their standpoint.

      I believe that was the main issue that led to Eunjung’s dismissal from her drama. It wasn’t an issue with ratings – it was about the ability to sell ads during that show. Ratings don’t really matter if advertisers aren’t willing to buy ads in that space.

      • Yeah well that’s what I’m saying: advertisers tend to balk way quicker than they need to. They see any potential risk and jump out of there with a quickness, when the public has proven itself time and time and time and time again that it doesn’t care if our celebrities beat their girlfriends to an inch of their lives, whore it up, kill a homeless bum and use their severed head as a finger puppet…

        The public just bitches about it on the internet and continues buying whatever shit they want to shovel down our gaping maws because we’re spineless assholes.

  16. I’d fuck them all. Especially Gyuri.

  17. Lol T-ara releasing a hand written apology letter (which was written by the company), a few days before their teaser lol

  18. Would they actually do that though? I guess that I don’t see the point of risking the success of KARA for making SNSD rise up in their place. Wouldn’t they just want to push snsd up too without being kara down?

  19. Everything worn by almost every k-idol seems ripped off from a western runway -.-”

  20. Seriously every single thing about this is ridiculous

    1) seriously every Kpop band, even Korea’s gems like SNSD and 2NE1, have worn shit that “copies” a designer more than once and they didn’t get ahit

    2) THE ISLANDS AREN’T WORTH ARGUING OVER or causing “controversies” like these.

    3) someone please blow up those islands. Place the shits of Kpop on them before doing so

    • Is there any chance of oil being hidden under those rocks? Cause then I know who we could be sending there without anybody saying anything.

  21. I don’t know why there is even an issue over this everyone knows that those rocks belong to America.

  22. http://www.allkpop.com/2012/08/some-netizens-skeptical-that-t-ara-handwrote-the-apology-letter

    You’ll think that people by now would know anything released to the public is all done by a PR team

    • According to netizens:

      - Letter handwritten by CCM representative without Qri’s involvement?

      Reaction: OUTRAGED!!!!

      - Letter handwritten by Qri as dictated by same CCM representative?

      Reaction: Okay.(?)

  23. off topic,

    Jiyoung still looks pretty >.<

  24. About being an idol in general, I don’t know how these kids (young adults?) handle that mess. It seems that if you’re not doing what’s right to a tee, you’re screwed.

    That being said, I’m getting scared for my Block B babies. They’ve never been the ones to act a certain way for the cameras. It’s like their duty to make me feel awkward when I watch them sometimes. After the crap that happened earlier this year, I’m scared that Zico will sneeze the wrong way and netizens will start the witch hunt AGAIN and then Block B will really be over this time.

    This is why I’ve come to hate the concept of being an idol. There’s only so much an imperfect human can do right before they screw up, whether intentionally, unintentionally, or just in the minds of netizens (the last one being the bulk of K-Pop controversies).

    • The thing is, pretty much all idols are fake on camera, block b being one of the more “real” ones. You see how netizens reacted to BlockB- imagine what would happen if they found out that SNSD weren’t the “virgin” goddesses that their company claims them to be, or that Nichkhun is actually an annoying partying jerk like all of the “bad American celebrities”. They’d get torn apart

      • I think that’s the reason why majority of BBCs acknowledged that Block B made a mistake and forgave them so quickly. They know they’re not perfect and Block B never made themselves out to be perfect.

        By the way Nichkhun’s fans reacted, it was like their world was ending to learn that their precious oppa struck someone while driving under the influence, which is why most of them were looking for excuses to sugarcoat that mess. It’s either extreme delusional sentiment or complete hate.

        • True

          I wonder how that one guy who got hit is doing- didn’t somebody on here say that in Korea, if you injured someone, and as a result, they’re stuck in the hospital for at least ten weeks, that you go to jail for a year?

          How many weeks has it been

  25. for Ask AsianJunkie: How do you feel about the whole “All Asians who want pale skin and get eyelid surgery are trying to be white” stereotype?

    • Who doesn’t want to be white

    • It’s not a coincidence that it’s mostly white people saying that.

      Also hilarious because the white trend is to tan the fuck out of themselves.

    • I’ll have a longer response later.

      • It’s funny to me because I got called out for being desperate to be Caucasian by dyeing my hair although I am not even full Asian by some girl who literally said “all Asian girls who ____ to their skin/hair/eyes are trying to be white”. Incidentally this came from a half-Chinese girl who already has light hair and double eyelids and pale skin and eyes. Since you’re much more patient with this kind of racist bs than I am I was wondering what you’d think about these kinds of stereotypes and how they reflect on how Asians are perceived in North America.

        • Make no mistake about it, there are a ton of Asians, especially in the West, who do wish they were white. Blonde hair, colored lenses, tanning booth skin, hang out with only white people, diss Asian people and culture, etc. It does happen.

          That said, it does piss me off when people say shit like, “Oh I don’t normally like Asians, but you’re okay because you’re *Insert Implied Whiteness Here*.”

          It’s sort of stupid, and we do it to ourselves, which is another issue, separate from the lack of unity between ethnic groups.

          —–

          I’m not necessarily patient with racism, I just try to understand it before I go around throwing reactionary, emotional buzzwords.

        • Most people who are like that are intimidated by any sort of racial group. People stay in their social circles since they know the social rules and culture of it, and the first factor that goes into forming a social circle is race, since that carries the most of the cultural weight that a person has. So when it comes to interacting with someone who is of a different race, people tend to look for those that have qualities similar to those in their social circle.

  26. Is it bad that I want to see both groups to fail just because it would be more interesting?

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