
So maybe you’ve heard by now, but there’s been a controversy recently involving the American clothing brand Hollister and the models they sent to a store opening in Korea.
Basically? They were being racist pricks.
Foreign models visiting Korea to advertise the opening of an American clothing company have taken pictures that make fun of Asians and started a controversy about racial discrimination.
On August 30, famous American clothing brand Hollister brought in four foreign models to attend the opening of their first Korean store at the Yeouido location, where they took photos with customers. The event, which lasted until September 2nd, is part of Hollister’s distinct marketing campaign whenever it opens a new store.
One of the models who attended the opening posted a picture to his twitter (@vin_****) of himself taken in front of Gyeongbokkung Palace with his eyes squinted closed and his lips open. Netizens who saw the photo pointed out how it was making fun of Asians with “squinty eyes”. Another model from the same Hollister event posted similar photos to his Twitter account.
One Twitter user who seems to have worked with the Hollister model before commented on his photo, “please look at how many Asians liked that picture… impressive.” The problem lies in the fact that the original poster of the photo replied with another comment making fun of Asians. The model mocked Asians’ typical English pronunciation, saying, “Hahahaha they ruhhvvvv itttt!”
Yet another model has also been involved in a scandal. The third model was captured exposing his middle finger in an insulting gesture during photos. Furthermore, the same model was photographed in poses that mocked Asians during his visit to Hong Kong which took place before he came to South Korea.

Classy, you guys.
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Predictably, considering they insulted basically all Asians in the world and not just Koreans, Hollister responded immediately because they saw money falling into an abyss.
Hollister fired the models, but not before Korean customers ignited a social media firestorm of rage, threatening to boycott the chain and return goods bought there.
“On behalf of our more than 80,000 associates around the world who cherish our core values and our culture of diversity and inclusion, we sincerely apologize for the offense caused by these unauthorized, ill-considered actions,” Hollister wrote in its apology.
Yeah, nobody should care about the bullshit apology.
Frankly, I wouldn’t have thought it was a big deal* if Abercrombie & Fitch/Hollister didn’t have a history of doing stupid shit.
*As in I would have just shrugged and said “whatever” because it’s just a bunch of stupid fucking models acting as individuals and they were already dealt with accordingly.
In 2002, A&F sold a shirt that featured the slogan “Wong Brothers Laundry Service – Two Wongs Can Make It White” with smiling figures in conical Asian hats, a depiction of early Chinese immigrants. The company discontinued the designs and apologized after a boycott started by an Asian American student group at Stanford University.
So yeah, fuck them.
It’s one thing to have an isolated incident and to make mistakes, it’s another to have a history of insulting just about everybody and making a point of fucking up with the Asian community. At some point, and I’m there right now, one has to believe that these aren’t “mistakes” but that they represent systematic racist flaws in the corporation.
The correct reaction is just not to buy Hollister and Abercrombie & Fitch stuff. As I’ve said time and time again, voting with your wallet is the best way to affect change.
Besides, think of it this way, not buying their products means you won’t look like a bro douchebag anymore too. Win win.
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Also, if you want to torture yourself, this Omona They Didn’t comment clusterfuck is basically the most ridiculously stupid shit you’ll ever read.
Which means you should do it because it’s awesome.





I’m not dedicating a post to that shit, but those are my basic thoughts on it.
Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
Abercrombie & Fitch has always been a racist company, they had several class action suit against them for discriminating against African American , Latinos and Asian American.
But most people don’t care until it happens to them.
Huh, no wonder I could never get a job at neither of those places…. I never bought none of their stuff anyway (still burning from all the applications I sent) Those comments in Omona went IN xD
Yeah…
http://www.spike.com/video-clips/1f86zg/family-guy-abercrombie-diversity-joke
This is why I hate being white. Everything is always our fucking fault.
Learn to live with it.
Don’t hate being white…… Then everyone will have a reason hating being what they are due to incidents that turns into stereotypes because people are ignorant. ;_;
It can be annoying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY
^ this lol
You hate being white? Oh, shut up… Enjoy being white until you can.
I don’t actually hate being white, guys. It just gets annoying that people always assume that white people are ignorant and racist.
I once got a message from someone saying that because I have blonde hair and blue eyes, I must automatically be racist.
(-__-’)
Everyone’s pink on the inside :)
People are dumb.
Well this particular incident is.
A lot of things are white people’s faults though. But never hate your race.
No matter what racist argument starts up in K-pop, I swear someone has to say something about how white people have never experienced racism. LOL I grew up in a town that had a black majority. I was witness to a lot of racism against white people. That argument will eternally blow my mind. Can people genuinely believe that? What kind of world do you have to live in?
People are ignorant fools. According to the politically correct world only whites can be racist. I didn’t do this and I never will so I shouldn’t be called racist, just because some other fucktard did. Whatever I don’t even care about the word racist anymore its thrown around so much. It’s basically lost all meaning and is rendered as a joke to me.
I agree that whites experience racism as well by minorities at times. But I honestly don’t get why people say they don’t take racism seriously because the word is over used. Their are plenty of times were racism is actually the case, so why would you not take it seriously at times when its is a serious matter just because the word is over used by different people. If anything people need to learn the definition of racism, because a lot of time most people can be prejudice not racist.
People use the word to describe everything that happens in their world and it takes away from the meaning.
Boy who cried wolf shit.
I never knew Hollister was part of A&F (I’m not into those overpriced brands that I can get somewhere else for cheap…) but it makes perfect sense to roll my eyes at their apology since A&F has so many issues with race in the first place. (or is is Aeropostale…? Whatever they’re all the same thing to me.)
But sad the omona comments were arguing (and well.. in the end) making it about white people (in a passive/victim/whatever kinda way) than the real issue at hand: those specific Western/white models being ignorant. “Let’s ignore these douches being douches in Korea, the country in which we looooove their music but still love to bash the crap outta, and debate whether white people can be the victims of racism.” Or even in KoreaBang, “we’ve experienced so much racist BS in Korea and here they go getting offended by them and practically feel inferior to white people since these comments are about the girls going crazy about them! They get mad when bean-paste girls like us! Well, stop being douches!” C’mon… I don’t like the white-victimizing nature the comments have to bring in when they’re not being the victims to begin with. Just a bit disrespectful towards the article and shows how much people think about when racial issues that happens in Korea from non-Koeans are that important. Like IATFB said, people are quick to go crazy when Koreans bash some race, but when it’s the other way around, people are meh about it (and like I said… go out the way to make it seem about them [as in race] what what Koreans do)
when in Rome…
… try to surprise ass rape some italians
how… did I know this was coming?
because I am predictable? Staying true to myself and shit.
they have some sexy ass people with some sexy asses
shall we visit there after our gangrape sessions in korea?
Nah, not into italian guys at all.
I know a bunch of them and they all were a huge turn off for me.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7gp3f3mXL1rahqw2o1_400.gif
GTFO!!!!!!
I’m Polish- everytime I go to the US at least one person thinks that making me guess how many of my compatriots does one need to change a lightbulb, or telling some other Polack joke is perfectly funny and acceptable.
and the old joke with hungary – hungry. it’s not really funny .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plIgEbggSs
watch the whole thing
…I couldn’t watch the whole thing. As soon as she said “..Hungary… that’s a country!?” I stopped… I laughed soooo hard when he said “..that’s called being a woman.” But put this on Omona: “Omg he’s a misogynist and sexist!!! He has no respect towards women!!!!!”
I remembered that. That bitch made me beat my head against the wall when I first saw her. This is another example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVz4VweMqFE
be honest, my beautiful country is a bad joke :)
@Taro
Eastern/Central Europeans like us will be viewed as dirty, stupid and poor communists for a long time I’m afraid. At least people don’t call your country “Hoeland” like in my case.
@Tap:moje serce, budapest is called eastern europe’s bangkok.
@Taro édesem, we are in this together.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhrwomI6Ok1qdzpuq.gif
Now Tap is even talking Hungarian. You are now officially allowed to marry me.
Budapest is fucking awesome. All the hoes in their miniskirts and perfect bodies – love that place.
@No_Min: budapest gyönyörű, de a lányok inkább kurvák, mint szépek :)
@Tap:http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m88tbcF3Is1rul9mvo2_500.gif
At least they don’t call you a commi russian…or a gypsy. They don’t even know that countries in Eastern Europe exist. Forever internally smh.
@noonar: the gypsies. the “blacks” of europe.
it is a insult in all countries to called a gypsy?
@taro : Well, I’m Romanian and I study in Paris. I have just a slight trace of an accent, but nobody can guess from where I am. Everybody is surprised when I say I am Romanian. Why? Because they think that all Romanians are gipsies.
Just because of my nationality I’ve been refused from several work places and rejected from one school.
Talking about racism.. yeah.
@Dafin: can i hate you too? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
we central and eastern europeans have to stick together :)
I bet those who hate just wish they could have the same brotherhood Eastern Block has going on.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmqxqrE2851qhn2ye.gif
@Tap:@noonar@Dafin@all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5xMq_RgZes
it’s sad and funny and absurd.
(i like these movie)
@MylittlepolishsexgoddessTap
“I bet those who hate just wish they could have the same brotherhood Eastern Block has going on”
Whoot? Guess Hungary is not included then cause they basically hate everyone around them and everyone around them hates them as well (except they want to get their teeth fixed).
So much shit I have been hearing in Hungary about Slovakia and Romania in particular.
@MyfavouriteGermandominatrixMinnie
Hungary loves Poland and Poland loves Hungary. That’s basically puts them in the club.
@No_Min: the hungarian nationalist are the biggest assholes in the world
and we hungarians are a little paranoid,
highly individualistic, unhappy people.
(and a lot of us believe that the world is against us)
but: we loves the polacks :)
A small two-seater Cessna 152 plane crashed into a cemetery early this afternoon in central Poland. Polish search and rescue workers have recovered 300 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening.
Here’s the one I actually like:
What’s long and hard that a Polish bride gets on her wedding night?
A new last name.
“One I actually like”, I don’t know where that “the” came from.
All body– no brains, morals or character…
Holister always makes me think of vapid, dumb frat boys anyway.
Hollister makes me think of dumb frat boys too! at my college thats all they wear!
so fucking true
There’re so annoying!
Okay, I take back the comment about them not having morals and shit. I just think its very tasteless, and immature. Plus, it just makes me think of what an obnoxious and arrogant frat boys would do.
lol, I hope they loose a lot of money over this, and I bet the models feel stupid now.
but honestly though I don’t care if some stupid white person makes fun of our stupid cultures because its just one big cluster fuck of stupid.
The have a history of racism and some shitty apology doesn’t cut it since they’ll most likely continue to this.
I agree with IAFTB, if you want ‘em change, stop buying their shit.
Good choice anyway because their clothes suck balls.
And their stores all smell like overpriced, overbearing cologne. I seriously can’t breathe when I walk past their stores in a mall.
White people should blame other white people for the racism towards them. Than bitch slap us minorities for holding it against them. Two wrongs don’t make sanity happen.
Hollister is a perfect example how racism over generalize a person to dehumanize. All races suffer this issue and push on others within and outside of our own race.
People who get hung up on I am Asian and white people are racist towards me. I am black and white and Asian people are racist towards me. I am Latino and Asian,whites and blacks are racist towards me. I am white everybody hates me and blames my race for racism. After made knowledge of this vicious cycle what happens? Not a goddamn thing but assumption that this group of people are racist towards this group of people who are also racist towards this group of people.
Hollister another one of those racist moments that turn into a cycle of who is more racist ,to who, is most racist ,to who, is the most prolific racist group of people.
Racism just drives you fucking nuts and keeps people fucking stupid. In reality the concept of race is abstract like currency. Its an idea that needs a belief in order for it to hold value,substance and truth. It will never go away no matter how much you try and preach tolerance or acceptance. To let go race would mean that the world would agree every person is human and of one. No exclusive on any account that racism on both ends prejudice or not created since its existence. I find that baggage hardest to let go.
It’s not really a vicious cycle more than it is that people don’t like to think of “their kind” as doing something wrong or they don’t want to be thought of as racist themselves for what other people of their race has done,which is understandable, I know I don’t, so they play the blame shifting game. Well x may have done something racist from my group, but y did this BS excuses. We could actually get somewhere if we tried looking at ourselves and how we can changefor that better instead of playing the oppression olympics. Its a hard thing to learn, Im still trying not to get defensive when people call out the black race for racism, my first reaction is like no not all of us are like that, but thats not usually what is implied anyways. So I need to look at why this happened in my community.
Anyways people aren’t going to let go of race, because some people like to feel more important than they really are, what better way to do that then to argue about something you cant control, argue about stupid things like who’s the smartest race, or the best race at sports, or the prettiest race, its makes people feel superior. Even if people let go of race it will be something else like skin color which is stupid, we all could have just as easily been born something else.
*change for the better*
My mistake, I was typing too fast.
@jazzy
I know how you feel. But after a while you get tired of reading shit like this. You get tired of people ignorance on both ends. One thing a racist and a non-racist have in common is they see skin color before the person. And use that to justified their agruments. Neither have the respect to see that person as a human. I honeslty felt that is what civil rights was trying to evolve our society into but the message got lots.
I never like it when sites like this point out racism. Its never fully taken into consideration and the point gets lost. Asians have shown racism against each other and those outside of their own culture. Whites have done it,blacks have done,Latinos have done, and maybe some aliens out in space have done it.
White people can exprience racism. You dish it out you should take it. Its the same shit with the last article that dealt with racism towards Asians. With Jermey Lin Facebook and comments from black and Latinos. OMG even they show racial hatred towards Asians. Stop making it seem Asians are so racist towards them.>_>
Seriously? Are you that cultrually fucking naive to discover this now? I am having deje vu with Hollister and its white people on the defensive. So now that we realize how racist the world is, what are you,we as people, a community that lives together,are going to do about it? Can you do anything about it besides bitch online? See how quickly the topic of racism is a waste in this day and age.
I just don’t see the point of dealing with this shit. The same shit is being discuss here was the same when my mom was my age. The same when my grandmother was my age and see came from Puerto Rico during the late 50s. Its hasn’t change much we just flip from racism to being politically correct and still do, to this day, refuse to give up racial titles. Yet we loathe it but at the same time feel enpower. This will forever keep each one of us divided in some way or forum.
Like me I am multiracial. The only thing I am not mixed with is Asian.(at least not to my knowledge) If I was to meet some Asian guy and have a child with him. Then that child would be something this society could never wrap their heads around. I would tell that child like my family told me: be proud not foolish. You are who you are. you must accept that before the world does or if it ever.
There is a solution but the world isn’t ready so I say fuck it and move on.
Do you ever get tired of typing out these diatribes?
In every post that deals with racism, you type out the same general point.
“Blah, blah, blah, why do people care? We’re all racist to each other!”
If you don’t care, then just say so and move on. Christ.
I was just going to ignore it, but yeah. Agree.
@IATFB
You ever get tired of making pointless articles about it?
Well talking about it online raises awareness and you get to see a different perspective of things reading another persons point of view. I honestly wouldn’t have known about this or the Jeremy Lin issue if I wasn’t on this site. I don’t think its meaningless, but besides that point there is nothing wrong with discussing things that you feel are a problem. Sometimes people just wanna talk about it. It helps us understand each other I think. For example, I mean I’m black and I experience racism, but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that I know what its like for an Asian in America just because we are both minorties just for of the simple fact that I am not Asian, so reading blogs like this gives me a broader prospective of things. Get it? If its meaningless to you thats fine, but others do gain things from this type of discussion.
I don’t get the whole fuck it and move on notion. It sounds like that whole “get over it” issue. Words and actions have meaning, lets not pretend it doesn’t. But if you want to ignore those things, racism isn’t always about saying something offensive or harming someone of another race it is part of a system, you can’t really ignore something that affects your life that greatly. With that attitude you can’t improve the situation either. America is racist but it’s not nearly as racist as it was 50 years ago, do you think it happen because people just dealt with it because racism is everywhere and everyone is racist. No, and why should they, why should a person settle for less than what they are worth.
I don’t think it’s pointless, so I write about it.
You do think it’s pointless, yet you waste thousands of words saying that in every post. Just ignore it if you don’t care.
@jazzy
That’s why I made that comment about the civil rights. People back then were so active, key word active, to make a progress. To bring forth some type of change in this nation that will last generation. People always mention the 50s and 60s about race and rights because that change the course of events now. But it didn’t or should have stop there. People today are not active in civil rights. Its something of the past but still question our future. When MLK and Malcom X died and Black Panther turn militant due to tension the whole message got lost.
I mean bringing awareness to racial politics happen during slavery. The Dutch up north aka Quakers question the freedom of a black man,woman and child. As well the slaughter of the Native Americans. The inequality of women. To freely practice religion without prosecution. This issue that quakers became aware fought for it on American soil. This was happening in beginning of our nation before it became know to the world.
This “awarness” dates that far back. These people act but it was against their government. To challegen society norms not just make people aware.
I’m not raining on you because I do the same thing. Read Asian American blogs, as well other blogs of different people of culture,religion,sexism, etc. Gaining all this knowledge of different American surviving socially everyday and wanting some type of social change.
Awareness is great but what comes after it? When does the next phase of social evolution begin? That what makes me fustrated and tired. What’s the point to have this knowledge if we can’t move on from it?
Why can’t we move on from it? Why can’t minorities unite? Why can’t people of America unite and take control of this nation? Power is in people who act not make aware? That is mewords are nice but damn its more than that.
@IATFB
So verbose but that is my opinion. Jazzy was very wordy as while but hey she or he made a good point about awareness. I say what happens next after you are made aware? After you made this point? Cried wolf to the sheep and they are startle. But that is it, you cried wolf. I don’t see a change in racism unless people truely want the change. There are going to be hunderd of articles like this for years to come. It quickly becomes pointless.
I don’t think you understand the context in which you’re supposed to use the “cry wolf” expression. Either that or you’re saying this isn’t actually racist.
Either way, you’re wrong.
@IATFB
What do you think all bias comments forgotten for a second. Do you feel that the models behavior was an act of racism or an act of crude ignorant behavior?
Both.
@IATFB
To me racism is a matter of convince for a large majority of people. Just in these moments does it ever really effect our lives. Other than that I feel people are on opposite sides. If we saw this happening in the streets of our town would we be so passionate to stop it like online? Would tell the offender he or she is a racist basdard or just ignore it?
I’m just asking this because I had this happen to me. A group of white boys called me a nigger in a crowd of mostly white students. Only two ever spoke up against them while rest just sort of stood there. Some of them were kids I knew some just so happen to be there. I didn’t want them to fight my battle but this is our school. These guys had a rep for beating up kids and calling them racial slur. It was me and a couple of others who stood up against them and actually did something. We got them kicked out but only a few stood up to them. That is how I feel people deal with racism.
Ok.
Right. So many people don’t realize that the concept of race is socially constructed term, when in actuality, there is only one race: human. Race has only proven to be something that people use to categorize and/or place authority over others and in that one or both of those things, every so-called “race” or ethnic group as a whole is guilty of it. No “race” is excused.
what a douche… Is this like a white person thing.. to do that shit with your eyes ? like i seriously, dont understand why ppl think thats funny.
Eh even ignorant black and Hispanic/Latino people do it too… even Japanese!!!!!! http://www.tokyohive.com/2010/11/morning-musume-members-make-fun-of-koreans/
ya but these fools are the ones that show up in the papers . Wait….. How the hell arae the Japanese going to do it?? !! thats too funny!!
The comments are worse lol….
Yeah, everybody does it.
Not a white people thing
It’s a douche bag thing
true
This.
I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to realize that’s Itou Yuna. +1 to you!
Exactly. I’m white, and I’ve never found it funny.
First of all, plenty of white people have tiny eyes.
Look at Hollywood: Clint Eastwood, Josh Hartnett, Channing Tatum, Joseph Gordon-Levitt… The list goes on.
Perhaps it’s the double eyelids that make them look bigger even when they’re really not.
Living in Japan, I see just as many people with enormous eyes as those with small eyes.
When I was in the U.S., one of my best friends and coworkers, a Chinese American, had bigger eyes than everyone else we worked with.
It’s really sad that so many people can’t see how much diversity (and beauty) there is within each and every race/ethnicity.
Be thankful for those wo do see the beauty in all races.
I’d fuck all of them until they are a frightened, little piece of misery.
Hahaha. I love this web site. You guys make my day.
It’s the arched brow and deep-set eyes that make them appear larger than they are.
Yea fuck those assholes. I never bought their shit anyways, I prefer my clothes label-less.
They are made by the same underpaid hands of children or people living in great poverty anyways.
I thought hollister was for those in the awkward stage of puberty- make them look older
Not defending A and F but….
Let’s be clear that the models representing Hollister were the ones that caused this controversy unlike the other incidents where it occurred because A&F (the parent company) were negligent on their part.
Seems unfair that A&F is getting shit because of two people they hired. Kinda like Apple getting shit because two Apple Geniuses decided to piss off their boss and promote android phones (stupid analogy I know)
At the same time, I am not surprised by anything racist done nowadays. It is usually a result of the company not fully understanding the different types of societies they are about to inject themselves in. They are literally ignorant about it because they have never had experience with it. Localization is something that needs to be invested in more when trying to expand globally.
Perfect example. Chevy Nova. Awesome Car in US. Didn’t do so well in South America. Why? Nova can be seen as No Va which translates from spanish to “Doesn’t Go”
GFG
OMG the Chevy Nova thing is hilarious haha
That’s how it works with companies. Your employees represent your brand. It reflects on your training and superiors.
Don’t scare me with statements like that, please.
Omona users always irritate me. Gosh, they act like they have a good sense of logic but then end up being hypocrites. Racism exists in every race and everyone can experience racism as well. Like when did racism only mean minorities can experience it? Geez!
Also what makes one think that just because we’re minorities and we’ve experienced slavery and racism that we have the right to be racist towards whites? *sigh*
Those Hollister models are fucked up. SMDH There is nothing funny about what they did. Plus your’re right. Their clothes are ugly as hell anyway.
Glad to know you’re into masochism like me too. Should’ve never read those comments on Omona…..but I did anyway.
BUT THEY LEARNED IT IN CLASS
LOL Seems like they were taught reading off of tumblr. That or their professors were prejudiced and crazed themselves.
The whole social justice thing OMTD users try to spew out……lololol Yeah they spend a lot of time on tumblr and other crazy sites.
Also like to add that just because your professors/teachers or even your parents say one thing doesn’t mean you have to agree. I sure as hell don’t agree with EVERYTHING they say.
Fan girls will take care of it. Expect the headquarters of A&F to burn in 3…2…1…
But I hope the army of fan girls get annihilated by an army of douchebags, recognizable from their pink polo shirts with turned up collars. Fight of the century.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
The two models were assholes. So were the individuals at AF who designed and approved the Chineses laundry joke t-shirt. That’s about all there should be to say about this.
I don’t know why every time something like this happens, a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it (in this case, all white people and also all the other employees of any race at Hollister/AF) get blamed for it.
Also, why is it seemingly okay to make fun of people for non-race related stuff? A lot of people that get worked up into a fury over someone making fun of a racial stereotype will think nothing of making fun of other people for being fat, ugly, etc? Those things are just as hurtful (or even more so, since they’re more personal than making fun of someone’s race).
Also, the shirt is awesome. XD It’s called a pun people, get the stick out of your ass.
and I didn’t mean to make that a reply. lmao
The companies are guilty by association. Even if they weren’t the ones to make the comment or gesture, they unfortunately chose those models to help represent them. Perhaps this will allow them to be more careful in hiring future employees.
I understand that’s how things tend to work in the real world, but I don’t agree with it.
People shouldn’t be “guilty by association”.
Ironically, that type of thinking is what racists use to justify their beliefs… A black person stole something? —> “All black people are thieves”. Guilty by association.
The individuals offenders are the ones who should be held responsible.
I understand that there are instances where bad management and lack of accountability in certain companies creates a situation where an employee behaves improperly. But to label an entire company “racist” based on the actions of a few people isn’t right. They may be guilty of bad management, but unless they personally endorsed the actions of the offender, they shouldn’t be lumped into the same category as them.
Again – I know in the real world you are, in fact, held guilty by mere association. But that doesn’t make it right.
True
I don’t necessarily agree with it either because it’s just unfortunate for the people who didn’t do anything. It’s the same if you have a party and someone brings a “friend” who tries to sell drugs or something and the entire house gets busted because one jackass decides to ruin it for the rest of us. (Or something to that effect)
That’s why I mentioned it was unfortunate that the company hired two people who happened to bring them down. But with companies and their models or spokesperson, don’t they have something in contracts that say they can’t do stupid shit?
And about the racist part, I don’t think the phrase “guilty by association” was meant to defend racism, it just happened to be used as a bullshit reason. I’m sure racists will use whatever the hell they can pull out of their ass to “justify” hating an entire race based on stereotypes. They are just…. yeah.
That has nothing to do with it. A company hires and trains their employees. You don’t pick a race at birth.
@iatfb
i thought that they just pick them up from a modeling agency?
Probably, but they are still associated and/or employed by the company.
Individuals versus groups.
I cannot be the only one who giggled.
I mean seriously, fuck people who are like OMG ITS SO RACIST. =.=” My KOREAN friends take funny photos using their fingers to slant their eyes up, for Shisus sake. And hell I can’t pronounce things right either, like saying R’s, W’s, or S’s together. “Shake it like a salt shaker”, “white rice” and “regret” are my enemies, but I don’t get my panties in a twist when someone laughs or mimics me. I laugh too, it’s funny. XD
Racism: hating someone of a certain race. e.g., the KKK. Not taking a picture with your eyes closed and a V sign. That’s just people getting butthurt because it hits close to home and have too big an ego to have a laugh about it. *Shrug*
nah it’s still a racist joke, but you’re right that it’s hilarious that people treat it on the same level with the fucking KKK or something. oh no, some asshole made squinty eyes. help, i’m being systematically oppressed. also fuck white people because i have literally 0 sense of self awareness
Idk, I think it’s more poking fun at stereotypes than racism. Like saying black people love watermelon, or white people have giant noses. XD
I know, I love it. It’s like the people getting soooo outraged are such hypocrites, because I can guarantee they’ve said something rude in regards to another person and laughed about it.
I wish more people were like me and my friend, instead of being so sensitive. He’s black, we always make jokes about anything. Like anytime we go past the local zoo I’ll be like “ey, wanna go visit your relatives? *monkey sounds*” and he’s like “shit girl, you got me messed up. you know I’m related to the Jaguar. besides we goin’ to visit yo families today. *drives to chinese restuarant.” and I’m like “bitch I’m not chinese.” XD
I agree, I think most people are just too sensitive nowadays.
In my opinion, there aren’t people who are offensive, only people who get offended.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling you out on being offensive or something like that, I’m just being a pedantic asshole. Because jokes that play on racial stereotypes are… by definition racist jokes aren’t they? Either way it doesn’t really matter to anyone who isn’t sensitive because after the age of 15 people should really understand the idea of crude humor.
Like I said, it wouldn’t bother me if it wasn’t basically a corporate backed business plan to put down minorities.
“You can’t be racist towards white people”
“you’re facing ambivalent shit as a direct consequence of NEOCOLONIALISM”
“yup white people deserve it”
“ok basically white people need to leave the hell out of asia and everywhere else and get their white ass back to wherever they came from which is from hell
that also means you, eat your kimchi.”
Omona suffers from the bizarre hyper-political correctness that emerged on livejournal/tumblr over the last few years. Anything that vaguely touches on race or discrimination will set off a retarded holier-then-thou shitfest that usually ends up being hypocritically racist anyways because the people posting are just trying to one-up the other posters to be the most condemning, and not thinking about what they post beyond that.
If you’ve never been exposed to the wonderful world of the livejournal/tumblr social justice circlejerk, you’ve got some great (read: completely divorced from reality) reading ahead of you. I’d recommend this twitter for laughs: https://twitter.com/TumblrTXT
Omona isn’t nearly as batshit insane as the other blogs but it will give you some context that makes the comments on Omona that much funnier. They really do think they’re ~making a difference~ by co-opting the words of the actual civil rights movements and throwing them around on the internet until they become running jokes. Look at all these teens coming from affluent families telling each other to “check their privilege.”
Making fun of a racial stereotype (like the Hollister guy is doing) is far less racist than some of these Omona comments.
Same goes for any Korean nationalist who hates Japanese people (and vice versa). They’re way, way, worse than the Hollister models.
no but you see it’s different, my brand of racism is totally justified because those dirty japs totally deserve it because colonialism 70 years ago hurffffffff please help me eat because i am so stupid i might put this spoon into my eye instead of my mouth hole
THIS.
The social justice-y angle is getting really out of hand. I followed a SJ blog once and I felt really uncomfortable with a LOT of the things that the blogger was saying, even though we’re the same race.
A lot of them are argumentative, combative, and extremely self-righteous. It gets even worse when they happen to be K-Pop fans. When oppar or unnir says/does something remotely questionable from western/English point of view, the pitchforks and the insults get thrown around. (e.g. Block B called ableist a-holes for covering “Let’s Get Retarded” by Black Eye Peas by one tumblr user)
Doesn’t that make BEP ableists too….?
Yes, by extension.
(Even if I don’t agree with that mess)
I always liked “Let’s Get It Started” better as lyrics.
Nothing to do with being offended, but I just think it’s dumb slang to turn “retarded” into a positive thing.
Pass.
:o
And I agree with you on all counts on this one. In fact, I didn’t even know there was a “Let’s Get Retarded” version until Block B covered it.
Yes, it’s insensitive and mental disability isn’t something positive no matter which way someone slices and dices it but saying it’s ableist (as in actually discriminatory/oppressive towards those with mental disability)? That’s a bit of a stretch to me.
Either way, retarded as slang is pretty bad. Like using the word gay as bad, etc.
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When I was reading those comments I came to a realization: That whole article therefore isn’t racist if going by their definition. The white models weren’t racist towards them since they didn’t oppressed Korea nor are the Koreans racist towards them back because well.. they didn’t oppressed white people. SO…. the whole article is invalid to them therefore it makes many of their comments invalid. (if going by their logic)
But yeah, omona…. is an excuse for people to feel good about themselves ;_;
They oppress others by being white … or something.
People still wear Hollister?
Do you genuinely believe that whites can NEVER experience racism ANYWHERE? …..:/ Jesus.
They can. But will it ever really affect them? To the point they would have to be afraid to lose their basis of existence?
That’s where institutionalized racism comes into effect. White people can certainly experience racism, but at the end of the day, they’re the predominant race in government, economy, etc.
At the end of the day, a white person still has a better chance at being hired/promoted/elected compared to a minority.
Exactly.
So even if a white kid gets bullied by a bunch of black kids in school, chances are high that the white kid will shit on their heads later on when he becomes their boss.
Shit, I also went to a school where Germans were the minority and they were bullied heavily because of that (you were safe if you were batshit crazy though – so I’m good).
But those were the kids that actually have a job now, even though they must have some kind of emotional scar and still seem disturbed. The “racist” bullies are pretty much screwed, none of them got a fucking job until today.
And no, not all of the victims were good in school and there were some idiots who actually were. So that can’t be the reason.
But a German complaining about racism does sound quite ironic, doesn’t it? It’s a no-go to do so, because Germans are so fucking cautious about shit like that.
I don’t believe that racism against whites can be compared to racism against other races because it might hurt their feelings but won’t really affect them in life.
It will if they live in a country where a lot of the population hates them just for existing in their country.
In America? Probably not.
I always have to think of South Africa, though. Only around 20% there are white and probably hated by the black population. Even though it seemed like they were able to experience some progress with Nelson Mandela being elected, it’s still the same old shit today. The oppression through the apartheid system should officially be gone, but it sure as hell doesn’t look like that at all.
@no_min
The only racism I’ve seen in Germany was towards the Turks. That shit was cray
If they’re a minority? Yes.
This notion that all whites have this super human confidence and aura is a racist assumption, really. Like they walk around impenetrable to being hurt because they were born into a privileged situation.
Because we know rich people and others privileged groups never have problems, right?
Not really true. Whites in South Africa are in the minority but they still have the most power. They are rich, they own the most land, and they are the most employed. They may not be in power in terms of government but economically they are still privileged and they’re only 9 % of the 50 million South Africans.
Being a minority hasn’t disadvantaged them; in fact whites in South Africa have become wealthier. Between 1993 and 2008 white income rose from R46 486 to R75 297, while it only rose from R5 073 to R9 790 for blacks. Only about 8% of white people in SA are unemployed compared to the 40% of unemployed blacks. Although whites in SA are against AA and EE the biggest beneficiaries of AA in SA are white women, the very legislation used they’re against helps them more than those it was really intended to help.
So being a minority hasn’t affected them negatively in any way shape or form. Sure they are smaller in numbers but because of the system that was in place for years and years they are still in the power position.
Does this mean whites can’t feel discriminated against or face racism no not really but ill forever use Louie CK’s look at whiteness, “What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker … oh ruined my day. Boy shouldn’t have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people what a drag.”
That is why looking at race and racism and divorcing it from the historical facts and how that plays a role today on an institutional level or sociologically simplifies the issue.
Critical thinking must be used when discussing racism and sexism and other social issues, being simplistic doesn’t really help.
This is not just to you.
@Lily
Reading about South Africa racial issue. The blogs,articles and news I read paint this picture blacks have it way worse. That native Africans are doing way better and taking over the middle class. Colords not any better than blacks and same for Asians. Some are blaming it on Afrimitive Action for decrease of quailty of living. Only hirring black labor because of Afrimiitive Action. I’m just curious on you take with the government and the racial caste system in South Africa?
Of course not. Try going to a school where the student population is predominantly black and there are only one or two white teachers. Some of those kids can be extremely cruel.
I remember one time this kid sat behind me in physical education class in high school and he mentioned that he doesn’t like white people, but he gave our P.E. teacher (who was white) a pass. Imagine if that kid didn’t like him. :/
I remember my mom telling me some students being so disrespectful for a towards a teacher-in-training because she was white. My mom took the student out in the hallway and was blunt with them, and no troubles ever again…. (the school is predominately black) I’m quite surprised she even works in Trenton High because uh…. my mom didn’t even like working there ^^;;;
I’ve seen students make this poor, defenseless elderly white substitute teacher go through so much. They once threw a water balloon and it pelted her right in the face. Her face was so red and I felt so bad for her.
You NEVER hear kids doing that to a teacher who happens to be a minority. >.<
my father believes so… >_>
I remember him saying that europeans aren’t racist to each other and to fellow white people but when it comes to us coloured ones you’ll see all sorts of hate >_<
I tried to explain to him what's really going on with the world but he refused to believe saying that I'm too young to understand the world and that I've never experienced any prejudice or hate like he did…..
My grandfather used to say that even though some people’s skin might be of a different colour than mine, our blood is still equally red.
Touching T____T
no wonder you’re the off spring of such a wonderful person
@Schizo
It applies both to this and the other post where you said I was a smartass:
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gonna namedrop the whole aryan master race thing i mean that wasn’t even that long ago historically and that was what most people would consider white(“aryan”)-on-white(not blue eyed blonde hair but still white) racism today
plus euros love to shit on each other all the time, tell me you haven’t heard jokes about spaniards or greeks in recent years
…No, I heaven’t heard any jokes about Spaniards or Greeks.
Try to explain that to him
ALL YOU WHITE PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE AND YA’LL EXACTLY THE SAME.
it’s is not a racist joke, it’s playing with stereotyps:
in the heaven: your car are german, your lover are italian, your cook are french and the british govern.
in the hell: your car are french, your cook are british, your lover are german and the italian govern.
lololololololol I wouldn’t consider this to be racism XD
AND WHAT”S WRONG WITH A GERMAN LOVER ?????????
No_Min is german…I rest my case.
I’m kind of a special case, I guess.
If you like to be tortured, come to me, my little kittens. You’ll have the best night of your life.
Has he ever read up on the history of the UK and/or Ireland?
:o
He refuses to accept that as racism….
White people hating on each other is like brothers’ querrels not actual hate -to him-
I really can’t understand his logic.
Well it’s not racism, but it’s hatred of groups all the same, and I don’t care about splitting hairs over semantics when it gets to that point.
I’m pretty sure IATFB wasn’t saying that white people can’t experience racism. I think he was pointing out the stupidity of the people on Omona who were saying that.
In fact, saying that they can’t experience it defies logic.
Whether whites experience racism on a frequent basis or not has absolutely nothing to do with whether they CAN experience it.
Most whites just typically don’t experience it as often because they usually live in a place where they are in a majority position (or a position of power).
If you discriminate against a person because of their race (whether it be black, Asian, white, etc), that’s racism. Plain and simple. You can call it whatever you want, but it’s exactly the same thing regardless of what race is on the receiving end of the discrimination.
Yeah I’m a fucking idiot I should have read the whole article before I started ranting. But that scared the shit out of me I thought iatfb was becoming a dipshit.
I didn’t say that shit.
I know
lol, that was worse on ONTD
why the fuck did i go read ONTD because of you
i fucking hate you. almost as much as i hate myself
lol, I hate ONTD mentality so much but I can’t help but read this site.
I always told my younger brother that if he’d ever look for a job at the mall to never even walk into A&F/Hollister, much less where their clothes. This entire company has screamed racism/prejudice for YEARS.
That’s the whole reason why this sight, http://www.afjustice.com/, exists in the first place.
*wear their ._.
*site Man, my grammar sucks today >.<
I’m sure the intelligent people of this site understand what you mean without getting all “Grammar Nazi” lol
Haha the grammer Nazi watch that while in writing class. I know my ass will be sent to the gas chamber.
lol Good to know, I guess xD
who actually shops at those places besides 12 year old girls though?
Both my middle and high school were almost all white. I was there to make sure an xamount of minorities were going to these schools. Every white middle to upper class kid wore A&F and Hollister next to Billabong and NOTHING else. Insane
well almost everyone i know (including white people) stopped shopping there once they got out of middle school. i know hollister/A&F used to be pretty popular awhile back but its really not so much nowadays. well in my area it isn’t…
I’m from the south and people move slower down here. Actually I’ll say this, where I live people move slower. I just don’t think the kids I went to scholl with really care if Hollister and A&F do or say racist shit. White people where I live just don’t give a shit if Asian,black and Latinos get dis. No sweat off their forhead. Or its the passive ones who can’t speak up.
lol. the people i know stopped shopping there not because of the racism and stuff but just because it just got lame. maybe its just in my area then (i live in the midwest).
I should move to the midwest.tired of the south>_<
Bros.
been to a lot of frat parties, can’t remember anyone with a hollister shirt on. o.O
A sizeable portion of the white males on my university campus. .___.
i see no one on my university campus wearing hollister (occasionally A&F, but still rare) and at my high school it was also pretty rare. most of the guys on my campus just wear nike, adidas, shirts related to our university, and other casual athletic stuff (there are guys who dress up more but still no hollister/a&f).
i actually don’t pay attention to guys’ clothing a lot though so maybe i just haven’t noticed, but the girls here definitely don’t.
either way i still think hollister/A&F are not nearly as popular as they used to be.
I don’t even understand what possessed them to do that. How can a person be THAT shameless to make fun of asians in an all asian country? It blows my mind.
And these models aren’t even up to par with what I expect models to look like.
They’re prolly those type of people that think they’re too damn perfect for anything bad to happen to them
Hopefully them getting fired will be a reality check for them, probably not though.
aside from the racist things, which happened in every part of the world and not just white people things, it’s quiet funny they did a racist joke of a country where they just opened their store…. smart PR.
haha thats what i said…
Go Team White America!! you managed to piss off not only radical islamists but also Asians. Who wants to go next hnn? Hnn?
But…why does anyone even wear freaking A&F anyways…. its really bad quality.
I’m going to find you and give you some UTI if you don’t have the Team America song
DEW IT
The reaction of those Muslims to that dumb movie is beyond insane.
Religion FTL
Libya represents >_<
Killing the poor consul is the dumbest reaction ever smh and now everyone is scared of an american invasion or something…….
Team white america be careful Team dumb libya is in da house
let us band together to make Team Mixed Sexy Ass Bitches to stop both from doing anything stupid
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WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR ?????????
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THANK YOU!!!!
seriously every religion has been poked at in the media. all of my muslim friends don’t give a shit when some joke is made about islam (which is rarely done nowadays), but then we have these people getting murdered because of a poorly done film?
those people have definitely passed up those crazy southern baptists. makes people see their religion as bad too. not smart
Yeah, their reaction is beyond insane but, Americans KNOW how much those people can blow things out of this world. They protest about EVERYTHING.
Personally i laughed a shit tone when i saw what the movie was abt…its like “here we go, some douche is abt to start another fight” and those morons freak out and start raiding everywhere like WTF.
I mean they burn everybody elses religion to the ground constantly but if you even say their god’s name in vain…you know you’re about to get hanged. America KNOWS this, everybody on this plant should know it. They will KILL, DESTROY, then PROTEST anything offensive…
Why is this America’s fault?
It’s some random douche.
yes very true… WE know that, THEY don’t care. As long as that random douche is from America…its all America’s fault.
Same thing with the Muhammed drawings in Denmark, they blamed Denmark and not the newspaper that published them, then protested a shit tone after burning Danish embassies and some other stuff and flags.
I agree it’s not Americas nor Denmarks fault but people in here translate it as “The U.S and Denmark want those things to happen or else they should’ve stopped them from doing such things”
stupid???? I know but in here we have very limited freedom of speech and they think that it’s the same thing all over the world
@IAFTB
90% female is the best kind of statistic
somehow this reply got put on the wrong comment, i know i did this right uggggggh fuck you comment system
Extremism is hilariously pathetic.
personally, those models should learn cultural respect. A&F ? meh, that company’s been racist for quite a long time
Little confused about the last part….white people being discriminated against, etc. not sure what it has to do with the original issue. Why does it have to get complicated when it’s white people? It’s racism either way, you can’t just justify one instance of it and not the other.
You’re asking me to decipher the motivations behind OMTD commenters?
Yeah, fuck that.
Nah, just confused as to why it was included with this article. Seems to me it should’ve been an article by itself. And also yeah, what the hell racism against white people has anything to do with the original issue; their reasoning just makes no sense to me, and you’re always good at translating the bullshit people say.
Cause I don’t want to waste my time deconstructing the opinion. It’s not worth it.
Alright, whatever.
Short offtopic. I am quite shocked that you haven’t made a review for Secret’s Poison MV yet, IATFB.
All those crotch shots and sexy ass Hyosung need to get a review with some nice slow motion gifs.
Relax.
i doubt you can relax after their first public performance of poison
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Always relaxed. I just couldn’t believe that you haven’t made it yet since I thought you’d love to creampie Hyosung 24/7 if you had the chance.
But Asian junkie users are unaccepting pricks guise..
People actually say that?
Well, I guess they are pricks.
:o
Yerp. People call us everything but sexist is the worst.
Tell me your favorite groups I’m curious and I would do ask Asian junkie but you’re not going to answer so just do it now. Pretty please.
Sexist?
Like 90% of the audience I have is female and I don’t even know why.
Do an Ask Asian Junkie and maybe you’ll get it answered.
:-P
Because we – as females – don’t get judged on here for being nasty whores.
@IATFB
Bitch.
yep. tried to introduce some friends to this so they could see the light.
i’m now a negative bitch, even though i’m without a freaking doubt a bubbly person
I know, right?! I’ve sent this site to few of my friends, and all I got was pretty much “YARRR, BURN THE INFIDEL!”, or something like that.
@tap
they make me want to show them the power behind my pimp hand
-.-
lol, I shall never send the link to this site to any of my friends.
While they know I am a nasty and disturbingly perverted bitch, I am sure they would freak out knowing I am spreading my shit online as well – especially considering that if I was to be found out by people from work, I’d be in deep shit.
But none of them gives a shit about kpop anyways.
@No_Min
i’ve only introduced the ones that can take the heat (two meanings behind that sentence). and those now see me as they would a hollister model (BAHAHHHAHAHA i couldn’t resist
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9l933q5Q11r2jsal.gif
i know they’re not all bad….)
most of the other ones would shit bricks if they knew……
i’m lucky with my friends. they knows, i’m a crazy bitch sometimes and dont care. :)
My friends know I’m kind of… different, but would flip the shit out if they knew I actually actively participate in conversations down here.
And enjoy them too.
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The guy fucking me knows. But he doesn’t complain since he is a lucky mofo anyways – my pussy will make any guy a happy man (at least as long as I keep my mouth shut).
my friends know that I come here all the time, I constantly get scolded for it but I just don’t care……
@Schizo
Want me to cut them up and slize them into small pieces since they all seem like assholes?
@Min-sama
Want their addresses or shall I lure them to your hideout ?????
lol, I hate ONTD mentality so much but I can’t help but read this site.
it was supposed to be a reply…
Your site has an issue with too many comments, IATFB.
Looks all funny right now (or it’s the wine that I have been consuming for the past couple of days).
Looks normal to me.
This is what I get, using Firefox: http://i47.tinypic.com/fon0o8.png
Happened to me once before, only on articles that have lots of comments.
Not that I care too much about it, though. :)
Yeah … I dunno.
Btw – where the fuck is outsiderkpop? This is a topic he would love and was actually asking for.
I want to see some bitch fight already.
Kaffy really pissed him off on one of the last few articles, he might be taking a break.
I feel the same, where is outsiderkpop? When it comes to this topic I like battling that fool. That dude is border line nihilist.
@Tap:we were at a party, and i played a little around. my best gf sat at a table, murmuring.i dont know this girl, she is not with me :)
@Taro
I say playing around is only healthy, and your friend doesn’t know what she’s missing!
@Tap: she is a sweet girl, but she never would dancing with two guys ten years younger, kissing girls etc.
she is normal :)
I never brought hollister for the fact that it is over priced and really not even a good clothing choice . everyone guy in my school who wears it is douche bag with to much time on their hands .
racism will be everywhere . i just saw a white women getting mad that a black women was siting next to her on the bus . it was a whole argument because the white women was mad their arms was touching . what do you expect ? for you to have so much space you dont touch on the bus especially when your siting right next to each other .on top of that it was a crowed bus so of course your going to touch . at the end when the black women told her nicely she has a right to move if she dosnt want a black person siting next to her . so the white women did mumbling bad words about black people and so fourth on a bus filled with them .
now i have a friend who’s white (she’s 100% white ) and she hates her own kind because her whole family is racist to the end . they hate blacks like their life depends on it . she said she wished she was another race for the fact most of the white people she know is racist .
The first time I rode a bus in like eeeeeveeeeeer that crap happened to me (but….we’re both black) She had this stuck-uppish attitude about my leg touching hers. Like omg there’s but so much frickin space on a crowded bus! I tried to put my legs close together but… it just wasn’t happening because there’s no space and the bus is rocking. If only I can just b*tch back to her *sighs* I don’t ever get all creeped out or disgusted if someone happens to be touching my arm/leg whatever when it can’t be helped on public transit. It happens, can’t quite help it and it’s not on purpose. If someone hates being touch or want personal space should probably walk or have their own car because it ain’t gonna be granted to them on a public transit……. (yeah that really didn’t have much to do with your comment kinda lol)
i understand your comment . i mean i dont get freaked out when i bump someone leg or they touch mines . if its a crowed bus of course thats going to happen . i guess she suspected it was going to be so much room 500 + people can sit on there and wont ever touch one another. she should’ve thought about it before she got on . because thats not fair to suspect someone else is not going to touch you when your right next to each other . and i wished i could talk back but you know everyone will blame you because the other person always wanna mumbled under their breath . lol people these days >__>
Their clothes have always been shit. It’s no surprise that there are shitty people representing them.