Why is Lee Min Jung considered a victim in her relationship with Lee Byung Hun? Netizens!

So Netizen Buzz posted an article recently, explaining why Lee Min Jung is considered a victim by netizens in her relationship with Lee Byung Hun, and it’s a quality explanation of the position of Korean netizens.

To put it simply, Korea isn’t very fond of Lee Byung Hun for his past, and many were absolutely shocked and disappointed with Lee Min Jung when she confirmed that she was indeed in a relationship with him. Her reputation will most likely not recover unless she ends the relationship.

Lee Byung Hun’s reputation took its first hit in early 2000 when the first series of ‘X-Files’ were released (a collection of rumors and insider info on all of the top celebrities compiled by reporters, journalists, officials and staff in the industry, etc that was accidentally leaked to the public. It became a huge issue at the time because the X-Files was meant to be used among industry insiders only, but netizens got a hold of it. A bunch of entertainment agencies sued all of the people involved because the X-Files included a list of the people that compiled it).

In his X-Files page, several insiders reported that he was an absolute pervert in bed and that that was largely one of the reasons why Song Hye Kyo ended her relationship with him. He allegedly had a lot of bizarre fetishes and was a huge sex addict (especially with young girls).

Go read the whole thing.

My problem with it? It’s … uh … still the position of netizens. Which is why I say that if you read the comments over there, you’ll see that they’re being just as the delusional as the international netizens they’re hating on who think everything is clean and flawless.

I tackled their relationship in the past, and I alluded to his reputation as a playboy and for enjoying “weird” sex or for having “weird” fetishes, but whatever, I’m not going to shame the guy for it. Probably because I’m not a virgin tween who thinks a little kink in the sex life is rare or weird.

Others? Well, jump to conclusions mat time!

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While allkpop translates mainstream media articles that makes it seem as if it’s a normal relationship, thus making it appear as though any netizens critical of the couple are just idiot haters, the opposite “truth” is compiled out of a ton of supposition, hearsay, and assumption, with little to none of it verified. I’m sure you’ve noticed by now that this is a trend that netizens love to use. Why? Because people who want it to be true will run with it regardless. There’s nothing netizens love more than a good conspiracy.

So now take their usual conspiracy theory crap, mix in the kinky sex aspect of it, and top it off with a conservative (publicly, at least) culture, and then you’ll find that people will slut shame anybody, even men. Except the woman also inevitably gets blamed for what her partner allegedly enjoys in bed, and unequally so, because now that she may or may not enjoy sex, it means she can’t be a pure goddess or whatever other nonsense they spew.

She’s seen as a victim. Why? Because based on Lee Byung Hun’s reputation, he’s a pervert. Thus, they’re assuming that Lee Min Jung enjoys all types of “weird” sex and nobody wants to believe that she could enjoy sex, period, much less kinky shit. It’s a very patriarchal society, so the judgment is that if she does enjoy fucking, then she deserves to get shamed for it, because then she’s a “slut” or a “whore” or “impure”. Either that, or she’s being forced into having “weird” sex, thus she deserves pity.

It’s a cocktail of confirmation bias and slut shaming that inevitably leads people to jump to conclusions as if such rumors help them “know” the celebrities in question any more than they did before.

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That’s not to say I’m being critical of Netizen Buzz, as they do an awesome job, but their commenters think they are on this plane above allkpop commenters because they get the “truth”, when the reality is that they just get a different version of a story from … uh … other netizens. Same goes for commenters here or anywhere, if you don’t take all sides into account and think critically about it, what you’re doing is pointless.

There are two presented cases on this relationship that currently lie on the opposite ends of the spectrum. allkpop presents it like those two are spotless. The outspoken Korean netizens present it like Lee Byung Hun is a piece of shit and Lee Min Jung is a slut and/or victim.

Me? The path to reality is generally between the two extremes, which is where I think the facts usually hide. I just think that if you completely buy into the netizen beliefs shown here, you are no better than those commenters at allkpop who believe in whatever fairy tale they’re told.

Cognitive dissonance at its best.

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The best part? The people who accuse me of “not understanding the cultural aspect of it”. Sorry, I don’t consider rights and equality a “cultural aspect”, nor do I think logic and reason are relative to “culture”.

It’s as if they think intelligent Korean and Japanese people sit at home and agree with the masses or something. It’s akin to believing that top voted YouTube comments in an article represent Americans and then claiming that you don’t understand American culture if you don’t defend the shit they say as “the truth”.

Lulz.

123 comments

  1. come onnnnnn sextape :D

  2. I loved the article, it was written well.
    Shame people call her all those names. Ironically, if she was in America for example, it’d probably have an opposite reaction/effect where people are actually “happy” or “surprised (positively)” about this. I’d agree as well, she isn’t doing anything illegal and it’s their own privacy. Whatever makes you happy right?

    Also are you a psychologist? Just a few terms here and there, I’m surprised that’s all.

  3. Either way, it’s unfair to her. As long as it was her decision to be in the relationship, then hopefully we can assume that she consents to any sex they have, no matter what form that takes.

    And honestly, who isn’t getting off a little thinking of them having kinky sex?

  4. Lee Min Jung is obviously an innocent virgin!
    so lee byunghyun should leave her and then come and be with me.
    obviously.

  5. I hope she dates Seungri next.

  6. It’s always the innocent looking ones that are the freakiest.

  7. The people who take what Korean netizens say as the gospel amuse me.

    These are the same group of people that think G-Dragon is the worst person in history because he smoked weed.

    Sweet.

    • From what i understand some of those ppl don’t actually think that GD smoking weed is that much of a big deal; it’s just that they’re bitter about him not receiving fair punishment for it. (Fair in the sense of getting the same kind of punishment other drug-users in the industry has received) So they take every opportunity to mock him and bring up the same issue in every gd-related news article lol

      • Yes, Asia has an apology/reflection culture. For whatever reason, people think if you spend enough time away from the limelight, you’ll be a changed person.

        It’s such an asinine stance. GD hasn’t spent enough time repenting in their opinion, so being on hiatus for six months will make him a new person or something. Please.

      • Yeah that’s pretty much how I feel about that situation. It was so swept under the rug compared to others and his fans are like “Well who cares? I’m sure he regrets it! I’m glad he’s not in bigger trouble than that!” -___- A BS story he told, a BS excuse he made (which many believed) & A BS ‘punishment’ he had. I’m just so ugh over how it was handled… and I’m not a fan nor an anti ^^;; I just don’t like seeing unfairness, even if I don’t like the person.

    • g-d is a little shit not because he smoked weed but because he lied about it instead of taking responsibility. rumor has it yg producer kush left the company because he was either pressured to or fired because he was the one that gd was smoking with, instead of the made up story that stranger gave him the weed. so ‘papa’ yg kicked kush out because his favourite ‘boy genius’ wasn’t man enough to take responsibility for his actions.

      • yep, ia the guy is a grown man and that excuse is just plain stupid

        • Hot^Right^Now

          when i heard his explanation i gasped. stranger give him the weed and he couldn’t recognize it wasn’t a regular cigar, cuz he was intoxicated with alcohol!? how dumb he think his fans are? smh, my 4 year old cousin can think of better excuse.

      • that is so dumb

        kush=my love

      • They need some lovin too ;)

  8. WHO ELSE ARE THESE NETIZENS GOING TO OUT AS PART OF THE SECRET KINKY SEX BASTARDS OF KOREAN ENTERTAINMENT (SKSBOKE, pronounced “sexbok”)?!

    First Seungri, then Lee Byung Hyun? WHO IS SAFE

  9. It it so easy nowadays to freak people out. As soon as someone does not live up to expectations, it’s like they deserve a public lynch. And the info was not even proven, because how do you prove something like that – where is the benefit of the doubt when you need it?

    • I agree, everyone seems so eager to jump up and lash out nowadays, yet they forget about it once a new target appears. People (as in the majority) have probably forgotten about the Block B incident, Nickhun’s drunk driving, that Chris.. guy.. SEE I already forgot names and shit.

      My point is, people get mad at such pointless shit that even their own minds don’t have the capacity to remember all the crap their mad at.

      • People still bring up Chris Brown thing once in a while when he’s mentioned.
        It’s all I can think of since I never paid him any mind before the incident.

        • I know people still make jokes about it and stuff (and it’s the only thing that comes to mind when his name is mentioned for me as well), but I don’t think many people are in an uproar about that anymore. Although I think that mostly may have to do with Rihanna revealed her extra kinky bondage fetishes… *shrugs* just maybe

        • Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, people don’t take it as seriously anymore, I think Rihanna forgiving him and working with him again helped that happen a lot too.

  10. So it’s a big deal she’s dating him… and her rep can be ruined just because he’s a horny kinky pervert? (which is made public apparently) Man that just sucks. I mean, I’ll understand if she was dating some North Korean supporter or something but seriously…

    Just sad that a grown woman who willingly dates someone can be seen as a ‘victim’ or a ‘slut’ due to who she dates. What a way to just think females are so naive…

    • I disagree with you second paragraph. I’m kinda taking it out of context, but you didn’t really specify, so w/e. Women an be seen as as victim when willingly dating someone when there is spousal abuse. They can be a slut when they go out with someone and get paid reguraly and still believe that they are in a normal relationship and/or they go out with a man who keeps having affairs.

      • Well that can apply to both genders I suppose but I guess you had to go the extra mile to find a loophole and yeah… do take it outta context. Let me fix my comment:

        Just sad that this grown woman who willingly dates someone can be seen as a ‘victim’ or a ‘slut’ due to dating this guy and his ‘reputation.’.

        My comment, however, refers to this situation and/or similar ones like it… due to how someone is supposedly and outside people not even involved/knowing the situation already calling someone names.

    • They’re just jelly they can’t get any

  11. I’ll still hit that raw

  12. Famous guy likes young pussy and kinks – omg, the scandalous news…*facepalm* Sometimes I’m sorry for Korean celebrity men.

    • Shocking, right?

      Next thing you know they’ll reveal that athletes have different girls in every city.

      • GASPS* you mean they aren’t virgins?

        • NO THEY’RE VIRGINS!!!!

          Don’t you know that they’re all gentlemen and ladies over there because of their culture?!?! They’re not like the stupid celebrities here

          *legit thing from a dumbass fan*

          It’s like they think Korean idols are somehow not affected by normal traits that all humans have, had or are going to have.

          Seriously, I would like Kpop idols to tell me what’s this magical thing that sets Kpop idols apart from “regular”, “mainstream” artists everywhere else. Them being raised in a certain culture is bullshit.

  13. I mean I guess. A problem I have with this sort of article is the wide lumping of all netizens into a single position/entity. But I guess when it’s on this large of a scale, maybe it’s justified? I dunno, that’s just my thought.

    Another is fact usually hide*s*. or fact*s* usually hide. I’m fairly sure it’s on or the other.

    • It’s just the cultural mindset. Whenever you talk about that type of stuff, it’s going to be general.

      No shocker there.

  14. Obviously they think sex is wrong in general thus they want to spur a bunch of bull for lee min jung liking what Lee Byung Hun has to offer .
    maybe shes into that ? hell i know alot of people are into “weird sex” .shit im into bonda- hold on i shouldnt be saying that . =_= anyways people dont know the truth only the people in involved .
    i think they want her to be pure which thats a bunch of BS . if she wants to get tied up and thrown around like a rag doll let her . if she wants to get smacked in face and stepped on by heels and then get a golden shower ? its her business .

    its alot more problems in kpop than people having sex . & Alot of guys would still hit that so it dosnt really matter.

  15. TheCorinthian

    What exactly is weird sex? Anal?

    He’s a pervert for liking younger women?
    What does that say about fans of kpop?

    I know if I had her I would do all sorts of things to her and not hide it in some X file.

  16. Omg. I had a dream about Taecyeon fucking me really harshly.
    It was great.

  17. weird sex omg is he seungri’s mentor?????
    I still would frikk her :-))

  18. kpop fans really forgot how YG got his wife………..

  19. have you seen him without shirt on? dude is 43 and looks better than some 20 years old. not to mention the millions in his bank account. what if he’s perv, if she likes him like that? seriously i don’t see how ‘she’s too good for him’. i sense jealous fanboys in netizens comments.
    imo, he deserves all the kinky shit he’s doing with lee min jung.
    http://fringefamily.typepad.com/.a/6a0105364a8fba970c015433f257ce970c-800wi
    http://popseoul.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/leebyunghun-20101008.jpg?w=590

    • not some 20 years old, many 20 year olds

    • His body is young, but his face looks his age.

    • Its obious they are talking out of Jealousy, who wouldn’t want LBH or LMJ to have kinky sex with you? LBH face is not that hot but is incredibly passable (exept in the photo of this article) plus a very sucessfull carrer and Lee min Jung is aparently for what I read, one of this place sex toys.

      everyone would beg to get sandwiched between those two, and they are just angry they are being excluded.

  20. I’m not asking this argumentatively, but out of genuine curiosity.

    In an article about G-dragon and marijuana you said:

    “For international fans to be up in arms and rallying about how dumb their Korean counterparts are is inherently pointless and borderline offensive…”

    How come you consider this, that is, netizens/Korea making a big deal out of sex, different to netizens/Korea being up in arms about marijuana. I mean after all, you could say being conservative is part of Korea’s culture?

    • Personally, I don’t think drugs are a big deal, but they do. Whatever. I’ll express my personal opinion on it, but I won’t go around writing articles making fun of netizens for thinking it. I don’t believe I ever did that, if you go back and look. Judgments on drug users is something that affects everybody and generally depends on cultural/regional values. Fine.

      This, on the other hand, has to do with their views about women, which is not a “cultural” thing considering it directly reflects the lack of equality that comes along with it. You’ll notice that even though Lee Byung Hun is the guy with the reputation of the sex monster or whatever, Lee Min Jung, despite no involvement besides making the decision to date somebody, is now losing face, reputation, and is generally being shamed for it. If the guy is the monster, why does everybody focus on the woman? I think we know why.

      http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/09/are-kara-and-secret-performances-too.html

      There’s just one recent example of what I mean. Their “sexual” performances have been an issue for weeks in the news. When was the last time that happened to a male group? I can’t even recall it occurring. They grab their dick/balls all the time in dance.

      Sexism, discrimination, murder, theft, etc are not really subjective issues as far as whether they should be allowed or not.

  21. Hot^Right^Now

    about g-d marijuana scandal,
    his obvious lies and underestimating his own fans intelligence is what bugs me. if you watched healing camp you surely remember what the mc asked gd right? mc, “you’re not lying, are you?”; g-dragon answered, “no, I’m not. It wouldn’t be possible for my lies to be believable, and if I was lying, I would never have been able to face the public.”
    http://i.qkme.me/3oyu29.jpg
    http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27585749.jpg

    • That bothers me about it too. I also couldn’t stand the way him and his bandmates condemned Seungri’s actions. I expected them to express disappointment in his actions for the sake of face, but their message was just so smug with so much underlying hypocrisy.

  22. Why didn’t you answer my damn ask asian junkie?

    http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/filmgirl84/tumblr_lg4b8wBwrA1qgayhwo1_500.gif

    And why are people even complaining about this now and not when they started dating?

  23. i think i want to be lee jung min seeing lee byung hun like that . sheesh that man body is sexy ! i bet she likes the sex with him . hell alot of girls must’ve loved it .

  24. Hey ya’ll I’m new here to AsianJunkie. First, I wanted to say where have you guys been all my life hahaha! I wish I would have came across this site sooner. Secondly, I didn’ know lee byung hun was a sex freak, well actually I don’t know much about him outside of his role in I saw the devil. What I do know is that I want both him and lee min jung in my bed naow!
    http://i.imgur.com/Bo0w2.jpg

  25. Changing the subject, it looks like YG and other producers are FINALLY starting to realize why Kpop isn’t making it in America. This quote is taken from a YG interview:

    The idol fad is over. Now, the market has moved on from idols onto singers with artistic qualities such as Busker Busker and Psy. It’ll take about five years for the idol phase to come back. At then end of the 90′s, there were a myriad of idols such as H.O.T,S.E.S, and Fin.K.L. Then you saw a shift in the beginning of the 2000′s where vocalists such as Big Mama and Wheesung gained popularity…If you want to come out alive, you have to be different from the competition. Look at Psy, you’re not gonna be popular just because you’re pretty.”

    • Maybe he’ll stop pushing 2ne1 in America, god damn.

    • YG only believes that the idol fad is over for all groups except his own.
      In his place I’d just switch to idol porn – let that new cunt from GDs video be gangbanged by all BigBang members. Now THAT would be an awesome new concept noone has tried before and he could leave fucking Jeremy Scott in his sadomaso closet.

  26. In that case shower me with T.O.P and Won Bin Gif’s like i’m in the middle of a Bukkake special!

  27. I think this is why Lee Min Jung is seen as a victim ( not sure if all of this is true)
    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/09/why-is-lee-min-jung-viewed-as-victim-of.html

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