Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
Yeah, yeah, I’ve heard.
HyunA and her cartoon tattoos (a handful of them are actually real, though) have already broken some records, most notably matching SNSD‘s record for “Fastest Video To Reach 10 Million Views” (a title previously held in splendid isolation by “The Boys“), as reported by Soompi. In other words, all it took was a mere four days — a paltry 96 hours! — for the thirsty among us to flock to HyunA’s latest audio-visual extravaganza, like so many moths to a flame.
YouTube views aside, as pointed out by my good friend @cynthes1zer, something else about HyunA’s “Ice Cream” deserves notice. In particular, she declares in the chorus (so you can bet that it’s repeated a number of times throughout the song):
I’m like sweet ice cream, I’ll melt you
Fresh ice cream cream cream cream cream
Chocolate ice cream like my dark skin
Sweet ice cream cream cream cream cream
As @cynthes1zer noted, “no HyunA dont [sic] even try to fetishize your skin tone when you’re pale as hell“.
But this isn’t just an isolated event. Rather, her lyrics speak to a larger trend in K-pop, one that reflects a cultural bias that links darker skin with sexuality.
Take SISTAR for example, with all the articles written up on them by Korean tabloids and the attention they get for being “dark” – Hyorin and Bora in particular, the more endowed members of the group, sport tans almost all year long.
I’m interested to see what people have to say in the comments, but I will remark that these kinds of biases and the idol concepts built around them, while acceptable with Korean audiences, might be tougher for international audiences (and in particular, black and Southeast Asian fans) to accept.
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Marissa Pak is a syndicated blogger who writes for McRoth’s Residence & Asian Junkie. She also posts K-pop commentary on her own website (MarissaPak.com), and you can tweet her at @MarissaPak or stalk her on Facebook. Her primary interest is making music as TESTAMENTVM on YouTube.
Hyori lee, koda kumi ? was pretty obvious that in asia, the darker asian girls are more sexual and appealing to the male base. kind of got me questioning why asian girls prefer lighter skin when most of my asian guy friends want the tannish girls, even me..
Pale = purity, innocence, high class
Darker skinned is the opposite
They’re love having pale skinned girls (and guys, honestly) over there
I’d cover my body in the smelliest type of horse diarrhea if Taemin would find me sexy and fuck me.
As long as you show Taemin that you possess a vagina, you will get his skinny little dick
Maybe a visual display of you bending over to show off your captivating cunt, much like a bamboo (or some other primate- AH AIN’T NO SAH-ENTIST BIPTCH), would work to get his attention
hahahaha
I’ll follow your wise suggestions, my mistress!
If that won’t work out we still have our abduction plan.
But I’m sure he’ll be wanting to motorboat my shit as soon as he sees it. Also I am pale as a motherfucker, so actually just the way he likes his pussy.
My masturbation fantasies are set for tonight.
What should we do about yours?
Maybe a nice little video to get you started? No safe for work… or any other place actually: http://putridsexobject.com/
It shows Siwon being banged by a transvestite – possibly GD.
Awwwwwww shucks- A VIDEO, FOR ME?!?!
What a doll, what a gem! You are too kind
When is your sexy ass going to be writing erotic articles for us loyal No_Minions?
Thanks a fucking lot! I watched that video and now I’m scared. You’re into some sick shit. How did you find something like that? And I feel sorry for the poor cow. RIP COW.
Damn, you got me clicking on this and I’m using the computer in the living room! LMAO Luckily I got a fast reflex for clicking the X.
@LakornDiva
LMAO. Laptops ftw
No_Min I would be so afraid to have sex with you
I still cannot get the images from that video out of my head.
@Koreanboo Well, I could still be using mine if the damn thing didn’t stop working for no reason. One of the reasons I haven’t been coming here much.
@LakornDiva
Now you know to stop buying E-machine computers from Wal-mart.
@Korean Honey Boo Boo
Your fear is what gets me going.
@LakornDiva
I fucking warned you!
@kafkaf
I dunno yet, forgive me!
@NOcomment
You are very welcome. It was my pleasure as always.
And I don’t find those videos, they find me. I’m a magnet for weird shit, it’s awesome.
@No_Min
I’LL BE WAITING MY DEAR!!!!
@No Comment
Had no idea what you were talking about, watched the video. Have to agree with you- I feel sorry for the poor cow. For something like that to happen to its body after death is totally stupid, really direspectful too
I’m scared to find out. A Halloween party with you all would have some sick shit
@bb2
You most definitely wouldn’t be able to forget it
Same thing with body type. Lots and lots of Korean guys seem to prefer the Hyosung body, so it makes me wonder where exactly all this pressure is coming from for them to be sticks.
Yesterday my sister visited, she told me about girl Hyundai funny video and how it was on her YT front page
Lol at her being considered dark. Or any of the people mentioned for that matter. I honestly can careless at this point though.
i cant decide if its sad that dark skin is seen as sexy- one the one hand at least darker skinned people have something going for them, but at the same time do you really want to be hyper-sexualized just because you were born with darker skin?
You ever fuck a black girl? If not you missing on dat crazy jungle pussy.
But in all honesty it’s fucking BS and they will have to adapt to international standards or seem like savages as netizens are fucking retarded about flaming Asian cultures for not having the same views as they do.
A black chick is still missing in my collection.
What have I been doing all my life…
You know you have a latina at your mercy right? we’re like the best of three worlds
I fucking love latinas and they tend to like me, too.
Y’all are hot bitches!
what the fuck you know about Latinas? there’s black in us too
@mybiasbeatsyourbias
Best-Of-THREE-Worlds
@ren’s cookie
Best of all three
It is so true, can’t fail with latinos
Obviously not fucking enough :P
I would have never imagined that anyone would say that to me.
But you must be right, thank you!
I would agree if they weren’t hell-bent on appealing to America.
@No_min i do not count ? i could’ve sworn i was black considering my skin is a bronze as it will probably ever get !
http://confab.richardsolomon.com/5/sam-crying-gif-857.gif
@oppaspervert I AGREE completely !
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2tbenMXcb1ro2qi2.gif
on another note they do tend to hyper- sexualize darker skin females ,even though it really dosnt matter to me because i fxckin love Bora but i cant keep myself away from Narsha and Nana.
i guess no matter what they will always see the darker skin tone as the sexual one while the pale ones are the innocent never does anything dirty ones ,if that makes sense .
You have never actually sat on my face so I guess not.
We can change that though, if you would like to.
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“i guess no matter what they will always see the darker skin tone as the sexual one while the pale ones are the innocent never does anything dirty ones”
I am here to change the stereotype of white ass bitches being the pure and innocent ones. Should add that to my goals in life.
we can arrange that !
Y’ALL BEST INCLUDE MEH IN AHN DIS, YEE CRAZAY ASS MOFOZ
I’m I the only one who asked what does bubbles have to do with ice-cream? What the hell was the director thinking.
Who ever said black is beautiful, was a damn lie. I go to bed praying every night, hoping I wake up lightskin or white. It sucks not being able to wear certain colors because my black skin throws it off. Also I really can’t pull off wearing sandals with no socks, with my big black ass jungle feet
big black ass jungle feet?
You must have a nice package if it’s true what they say.
http://www.skin-whitening-product.com/images/self-conscious-dark-feet-21264445.jpg
What package?
black people are beautiful as one myself i wear alot of colors and look nice , i guess im the type of black person who can wear neon hair colors and make it a fashion statement instead of a hot mess .
but you can always get one of those surgeries and get your skin color changed if you want .
but dont say black is not beautiful that is a very hateful comment .
and ever put lotion on your feet before the sandals ? it may help with the not pulling it off thing !
Your penis, your shlong, your meat weapon, your cock, your disco-stick, your fuckpole, your trouser snake.
You just wanted me to write it, didn’t you?
@No Min
Yes I did lol
Trolling so hard
Lol
I know you’re trying to troll as hard as you can but.. If you’re really a black person and you really think and feel this way about yourself then i suggest you buy or go to the library and borrow Frantz Fanon’s “black skin,white masks”, maybe when you’re done with that read some Bell Hooks.
I was going to suggest prayer or slaughtering a goat but those wont help. You cant pray away self hate you unlearn that.
Ill slaughter a goat and burn some incense for these comments doe.
I prefer reading books with pictures
Lol
Just because you are insecure about your looks does not mean Black isn’t beautiful, it just means you have low self esteem.
Fly sexy dudes can’t have low self-esteem
Amen
Lol some people are not getting the joke
Yeah, people need to stop taking things way to serious
I’ve always thought Asians look better with tan skin..
And No_Min, Kaffy is European, Mongolian, and Armenian. I know you’re missing that shit from your collection…
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2liahUj3y1ql780lo1_500.gif
Yes, bitches, it’s a top gif.
“ERMAHGERD TOP OPPAR!!!!!”
I cannot be the only one that thinks he’s not the greatest looking guy in Kpop. While he is quite a joy to many, he ain’t a joy to my pussy
YES.
I would probably enjoy him a lot more if he didn’t look like my german teacher in primary school. Who was a woman.
*cringes at thought*
Who is a joy to your pussy then?
Probably Jung Juri.
And Zico… and unfortunately Siwon that son of a crack smoking vaginal infection.
OH YOU GUYS KNOW ME TOO WELL!!!!!
Don’t forget Changmin!
Yes yes yes
don’t forget yourself Minnie
So true
So very true. Very very true….
Hyuna thinks she has a chocolate skin tone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb9n5_h6MxY
That part of the song should of been on this list http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eWswnsR9-0A
I would say it’s because of political, social, and religious reasons; when Korea was opened to the West, most Koreans were ‘dark-skinned’ compared to the Europeans, who viewed them as lower-class because of that. Before Coco Chanel made it trendy to be tan, pale skin was HIGHLY valued in European society, as was being plump, since that indicated you were of a high status. Thus, in order to not be seen as ‘backwards’, Korea quickly changed it preferences.
In addition to that, now that it’s the foreigners who are darker-skinned, dark-skin is seen as exotic. Such as in Roman times, when the blonde, blue-eyed viking girls were taken in, in stark contrast, as slaves to the dark-haired, dark-eyed Romans (which led to the sexualization of blonde haired woman in Western society), the contrast of the dark-skinned foreigner with the pale-skinned Korean has led to it being seen the same way.
Finally, in religious terms, it’s against the contiguous beliefs of Korea, by going against what is considered the norm (pale-skin). In western society, it could correlate with the idea of the ‘forbidden fruit’.
I read something similar to this awhile ago. Koreans that were dark skin had to work outside because they were poor and had to do manual labor, while the pale Koreans were rich and could stay inside all day. I guess people still associate the dark skin with being poor and less than.
actually this stereotype happen in many Asian countries,including my country Indonesia…
television always said “be proud with your Indonesian brown skin” but the fact they still use white skin people in advertisement and for promotion…
Thailand is full retard about skin tone too. And if you’re half White-American or European you’re automatically attractive or “perfect”, and if your tan, Laotian or Khmer descent, “you poor dirty monkey”. The country is so called “progressing” yet you still have a bunch of fucktards with a 18th century mentality still calling their housekeepers “servents” and if you sleep with a forgeiner, you would automatically know their language (some bastard politician from the conservative party in my province actually said that about poor unwated women are better off with a westener). -__- -sigh- My peoples still have a lot of catching up to do.
@LakornDiva
our people still need more education,especially Indonesian….even people in my country trust a child can heal them with a fucking usual stone -___-
@LakornDiva
“My people still have a lot of catching up to do”.
Don’t feel bad, just look at the black race on BET & VH1 and see how stupid we act.
F***ing sad we took 2 steps forward but 5 steps backward
unfortunately this is as age-old stereotype:
“I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem,
as the tents of Kedar,
as the curtains of Solomon.
Look not upon me, because I am black,
because the sun hath looked upon me:
my mother’s children were angry with me;
they made me the keeper of the vineyards;”
The dark skinned people became dark because of working in fields, they didn’t work in the fields because they were dark
That’s why lighter skinned were considered higher class- the lower class people were in the fields working getting tanner instead of relaxing inside
Yeah, that’s what I meant. I got it confused.
Solid comment.
Yeah Hyuna should just stfu right now. She knows nothing about dark skin.
@kafkaf you know your always included !
I get some of ya’ll are trying to be funny with your racism but the thing is with racism,it is never funny.
The things we get away with because internet anonymity.
AJ i know you dont believe in censorship but some of the comments here are very offensive. There’s taking a piss and then there’s this.
It’s only one person writing shit that could be considered racist against black people but that person is black himself.
So what does that make it?
I’m mindfucked.
“You ever fuck a black girl? If not you missing on dat crazy jungle pussy.” – oppasapervert
Jungle pussy,really ?
I can create a profile here and say im white,do ya’ll have definitive proof that i am what i say i am? No.
And even if the person is black,it doesnt remove the fact that what they’re saying is offensive as fuck and they’re suffering from a shit load of self hate.
How are ya’ll so blaze about this? I really dont understand.
*blaise*
Agreed. Although it’s probably not meant to be offensive in some cases, Jungle Fever implies that someone is like an animal, that is where the context is originally from anyways.
It definitely says negro on my birth certificate
Idk how you can accuse someone of self hate unless they actually say hate themselves ’cause of their race.
I make racist jokes about Asians sometimes but I’d tell you to go fuck yourself if you told ME that I’m somehow suffering from self hatred.
My God you guys need to calm down… no one here dislikes blacks. Jesus Christ.
I’m sorry but Koreanboo took it too far. I’m not mad about the jungle fever thing, I’m just saying I understand why others would be mad about it. It’s not really meant to be a good thing.
The “jungle pussy” comment is offensive because it’s serious in a way.
Koreaboo’s comment reads as satire.
Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUYWt-LX-Q
Where the fact that people actually think like what he’s commenting on is the joke.
To be frank, after I switch the layout, I’m thinking of implementing comment rules.
Comment rules?
Wh… what?
Why does that sound so fucking threatening?
It IS distracting to have a serious topic and to have commenters spam it with off topic shit.
I mean, like has been said already, I post a ton of stupid ass posts that can exist just for chat.
:(
Oh nooooes. Papa IATFB might ban our annoying asses, kafkaf.
We need to offer him some bloody sacrifices or a naked Lee Min Jung on her period to pay our debt for contaminating his articles.
is it me? is it me? i’m sorry if i say something that sounds racist ._.
It’s starting to look like all the other trash sites about K-Pop. I just make note of profile names and remember not to read anything they have to say because it’s not worth it.
Haha it’s not that serious
Oh you poor thing- ITZ GON BE OKAYYYYYYZ
The stuff I say isn’t that bad.
Calm down Al Sharpton, it’s just a website.
Since when has Hyuna ever been considered dark skin? I mean seriously I’ve never heard anyone refer to her as such like they point out Kai, Hyorin, or Hyori for their sexy dark skin…
Anyways I don’t really like the idea because like I said this is the first time I’ve heard her speak of being dark skinned. I feel like shes just using the skin color for sex appeal whereas in any other situation she would not want to be considered dark skin.
Besides that point the whole fetish of dark skin equals sexy just rubs me the wrong way because it reminds me of how minorities are treated in the US. Like white women are often times thought of a innocent, minorities women are usually presented more sexual. Its like that thing where people say something along the lines of “I’ll fuck *insert race* but not date/marry them like your not worth it. I feel like that’s the same notion “O I’ll have sex with a dark skin girl because she sexy, but the women I bring home to my parents would be a pale skin innocent girl not the poor trashy dark skin girl”. People who have a fetish like this only look at you in one way… granted that’s probably what Hyuna or her company wants but its a real affect on people who actually have dark skin and deal with that crap on a daily basis. I mean I’ve had people say to my face they’d only fuck a black chick, nothing more, like I was suppose to feel complimented by that or something.
FUCKING AGREE
I hate the fetish of minorities in the United States but Korea is another culture. Our fetish for minorities particularly black comes from the days of slavery.
When Negros no matter what sex and age, were consider property. As well the continuous legal need to slave Africans. One of the reasons was because Negros, according to Europeans, were ill moral people with hyper sexual behaviors. This stigma has never left and is used pretty much against other non-white people of the world in the west. Except for Asian men who are de-masculinized in the west.
But in Korea its the foreigner who gets this stigma. No doubt that a person of dark skin in Korea was also tied to prostitution or was an unfortunate sex slave to a more wealthier lighter skin Korean.
It is possible to think that darker skin Koreans were also used for sex trade, (like Africans in the west) thus tagging the stereotype dark skin=sex. I don’t think this was from western influence since prostitution and sex trade is the oldest from a business know to civilized man.
.mmmm chocolate ice cream now I want some…
K, the girl has got to stop. Making a fool of herself.
you don’t like my hyuna :(
HyunA try hard’ness is very off putting.
Bullshit I bet you’ll still spray your skittles on that bitch’s face
She is a good cum bitch
Just wanna set on her face
I swear HyunA without make-up reminds me of…
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29800000/jack-nightmare-before-christmas-29801265-500-667.jpg
No lie
@koreaboo
kicking you in your balls
http://gifs.gifbin.com/480503758.gif
So cruel lol
“Besides that point the whole fetish of dark skin equals sexy just rubs me the wrong way because it reminds me of how minorities are treated in the US. Like white women are often times thought of a innocent, minorities women are usually presented more sexual.”
Do you live under a rock or are you trolling? I guess I missed the memo where all the sexy supermodels at Victoria’s Secret were mostly white? Or the countless sex symbols in pop culture that were white women? As a minority myself, I hear this BS all the time from minority kids who want to see more women of their kind being represented in the media “in a beautiful and sexy way like the white women” so that they feel better about themselves (like that somehow fixes your identity or self esteem problems – eye roll). And then when it finally happens they turn around and say that they’re being objectified as sex objects because of their race.
Jesus, it’s like you guys can’t ever be satisfied. IMO hyori changed beauty standards in Korea because she could still rock it and have people admire her even with tan skin, when before that women had to be pale to be beautiful.
“Its like that thing where people say something along the lines of “I’ll fuck *insert race* but not date/marry them like your not worth it. I feel like that’s the same notion “O I’ll have sex with a dark skin girl because she sexy, but the women I bring home to my parents would be a pale skin innocent girl not the poor trashy dark skin girl”.
UH… I have never heard in all my life someone marrying someone else because they were “pale”, at least in the US. What kind of people do you hang around? If they judge you on the basis of your skin then there’s no point in even being around them.
“People who have a fetish like this only look at you in one way… granted that’s probably what Hyuna or her company wants but its a real affect on people who actually have dark skin and deal with that crap on a daily basis. I mean I’ve had people say to my face they’d only fuck a black chick, nothing more, like I was suppose to feel complimented by that or something.”
Yeah, people who have fetishes will act that way no matter what kind of fetish it is. Doesn’t mean it’s racist or some shit.
What are you trying to say? That because hyuna (or the media) is singing that her dark skin is sexy, somehow it has to do with some random asshole telling you that black chicks are only good for fucking?
“its a real affect on people who actually have dark skin and deal with that crap on a daily basis”
I’m dark myself and proud of it. Who cares what some racist jerk says to me, good lord. If he doesnt like dark chicks thats not my problem. Ill just fuck and marry whoever does like it. I’m not going to blame whatever celeb for my personal problems. Jeez. Stop using celebrities to set an example for your life. You have no one to blame but yourself if you let what other people tell you what’s attractive and worthy.
This was a reply to jazzy, my bad.
“Do you live under a rock or are you trolling?”
Why are you asking me questions you already know? You know I’m not trolling. I honestly fail to see how my argument sounded like I don’t have enough experience on the subject to even suggest I am living under a rock.
“I guess I missed the memo where all the sexy supermodels at Victoria’s Secret were mostly white? Or the countless sex symbols in pop culture that were white women? As a minority myself, I hear this BS all the time from minority kids who want to see more women of their kind being represented in the media “in a beautiful and sexy way like the white women” so that they feel better about themselves (like that somehow fixes your identity or self esteem problems – eye roll). And then when it finally happens they turn around and say that they’re being objectified as sex objects because of their race”.
I guess you missed my point. White women are pretty much in presented in everything, so obviously they are not going to be stereotyped if they are shown in everything not in one specific thing over and over again, if white women were only shown as Victoria Secret Models and not other well respected areas then maybe it would be different. Like for instance, if I said black people are stereotyped as gangsters, Asians as submissive you could argue that there are white people in the media who has played a gangsta character or a submissive character but since those are not the only things they are given they are not going to be stereotyped as one specific thing. But besides that there are plenty of discrimination in the modeling entertainment and the media in general but that’s another subject. Self-esteem and identity problems is source of minorities either having very little representation or none at all in the media it doesn’t necessarily have to do with just modeling. But I have feeling you don’t really care about any of this sinse you seem to be unwilling to see my point of view and are merely belittling me anyways.
“Jesus, it’s like you guys can’t ever be satisfied. IMO hyori changed beauty standards in Korea because she could still rock it and have people admire her even with tan skin, when before that women had to be pale to be beautiful.”
Can’t ever be satisfied with what? This is one topic. Expand please, or you just venting your frustrations about the topic of racism more than you are about this subject in particular. I suppose I should be like you and think that everything is fine and dandy all the time and if I don’t I’m obviously seeing racism where there is none, or looking to be offended for nothing, I’m just never happy! Also, Hyori is one person. You admit that pale skin was the standard in past, yet its apparently wrong to assume that just maybe those beliefs are still there? There is progress for sure but that belief is pretty much largely accepted. It’s not like that beauty standard has changed drastically just because Hyori is sexy.
“UH… I have never heard in all my life someone marrying someone else because they were “pale”, at least in the US. What kind of people do you hang around? If they judge you on the basis of your skin then there’s no point in even being around them.”
Really never? Are you living under a rock? Obviously if you don’t share the same thoughts about this issue as me you must being living under a rock. I don’t really hang out with people who say things like that, they are more like people I have to deal with on a regular from work and school environments. Not my friends. I didn’t say marry someone because they are “pale”. My example was more of how some people will have sex with someone of another race to experiment but at the end of day only want to marry within their own race because its safe or easier to deal with because it doesn’t have negative connotations similar to how dark skin kind of has negative connotations. Dark skin sexy fuckable, Pale skin innocent/ girlfriend material.
“Yeah, people who have fetishes will act that way no matter what kind of fetish it is. Doesn’t mean it’s racist or some shit.
What are you trying to say? That because hyuna (or the media) is singing that her dark skin is sexy, somehow it has to do with some random asshole telling you that black chicks are only good for fucking?”
Are you the ultimate judge of what is racist or not? Because you seem to be acting that way. We can agree to disagree on subject.
And no that is not what I am trying to say. But since you read my post with little intention of understanding it since you’ve been belittling me from the start of course you don’t get it. I was just using it as an example, hence that’s why I said reminds me of, not that it was the same. You know, kinda like how you used Victoria Secret as an example to support your argument.
“I’m dark myself and proud of it. Who cares what some racist jerk says to me, good lord. If he doesnt like dark chicks thats not my problem. Ill just fuck and marry whoever does like it. I’m not going to blame whatever celeb for my personal problems. Jeez. Stop using celebrities to set an example for your life. You have no one to blame but yourself if you let what other people tell you what’s attractive and worthy.”
You being dark and a minority means what exactly to me? That I should handle these situations similar to the way you do because you have so much confidence that I am clearly lacking. Do you think I’m not proud to be dark skin or black? Am I suppose to say that these things don’t affect people anymore in order to prove that I am proud to be black. I don’t get how self-esteem and talking about racial issues go with each other. We don’t all have to think and feel the same way as to you do in order to have a valid point or opinion on the matter. If you are not offended you have every right not be, but don’t act like I can’t feel differently. And the rest of what you are saying is just putting words in my mouth and assuming things about me personally that you don’t really know anything about. Every country has a beauty standards, people go after it, look up to it, and many times judge people off of it. That is the reality is it not? Its not that I am judging myself off of it, or letting others tell me what is and is not attractive. It actually has nothing to do with me personally. Yes, I gave examples from my own experiences but I’m mostly talking about a bigger picture. Why you think this is just about me and others on this site playing “victim” is beyond me. But I love how you think others are sound angry and pressed about racism that you feel isn’t there when you sound just as pressed, if not more angry. I don’t understand the logic in being outraged that other people are offended by something that you are not? If you don’t take offense, don’t give a fuck. laugh at racial jokes then that’s you. However, I do and I will say it if I feel like it.
I was just pointing out why I didn’t think your argument made sense. You don’t have to take it so personally and feel that I’m “belittling” you.
And nope, I’m not pressed or angry at all. ^^ Lol. You sound a bit offended so we can just stop it here.
I think I’ve seen you arguing on other Kpop sites before although I could be wrong. If I’m not mistaken you’ve been a reader for a while so the attitude of the commenters/writers on AJ should be familiar to you.
I suggest if you are so offended by what goes on here, just leave instead of annoying others when you get butthurt over their jokes and spoiling the fun. The sarcastic tone here is often misunderstood and it’s not what the majority of Kpop stans enjoy.
Was your reply to me a joke or were serious. Because m comment was on article orginally and then your comment that pretty much attacked me not about the what others were saying on this site so i dont get why you think i can’t take a joke. Your comment was not a joke. You sounded pressed and you’ve sounded that way for a while now in other post i’ve seen from you. This is not the first time you’ve went on a rant about people whining aboit race. Yeah i commented on koreanboo but i didnt write much about it. We’ve had some serious discussions about race before on here with the jeremy lin incident and the hollister issue. But i suppose Asian racism is taken more serioisly here. You guys all gain up on mybiashatesyourbias because she found those articles pointless but then want to gain up on me for not taking things lightly Okay. I’m also find it a bit amusing how your trying to kick me off the site. If you don’t like what im saying you could always ignore me I don’t mind. So this site is now reduced to sexual and racial jokes now? I knew it was part it but i came for the honest opinions on a lot of things that are talked about here.
Im typing this on my phone so sorry about grammar mistakes.
Lol this is honestly a bit amusing.
@jazzy
I haven’t left this site but got a part-time job and going to school full time. Don’t have the time to really surf the net or read the articles on this site.
But yeah I am not the only one with indifferent ideas that have been gang up on on this site. The whole point of comments is to allow people to share how they feel about an article. The wonderful thing about this it opens up the chance for debates between people with different ideas. Which is also the major downfall.
People can only truly speak for themselves and what they experience. I make that point but its just a matter of taking the time to read the comment and not fuss over words but what those words mean and imply. A lot of people do not take the time out to fully grasp what a person types about but want to debate until the cows come home.
I do question people intention and sites like these that bring up the issue of race. Sometimes it seems like a need to band wagon and stir the pot. The subject of race is a very touchy topic that is discussed to death. But only a culture of people can really change the deep rooted problematic issue race and racial profiling has created.
There is a general conscious of hyper sensitivity about race regardless if it is about Asians, blacks, whites, Latinos, or the relationships between the ethnic groups on this site. People are going to get defensive, emotional and becomes offended at the drop of the hat.
I honestly don’t care if people gang up on me or think I am ignorant. Yeah I seem racist on some ideas and down right stubborn but I give people the floor and say what they want to say. I am openly willing to admit that I may have a racist point of view on things. To many people want to seem righteous, even on a site like this or act like they care about the issue. Yet after a few comments into it don’t know dog shit.
That is all you can really do on sites like this, just discuses. Say what you gotta say and keep it moving. People will challenge your belief, that is the opportunity to express yourself. Especially when they comment reply to you, something you said spark an interest in that person. Part of an argument is having two or more than one person disagree or its not an argument. Am I right?
I wasn’t trying to imply that they drove you away. But just that they were being hyprocrites. There trying to say the comments on this site shouldn’t be taken seriously like they don’t ever take things to heart. This is not anti kpop fangirl, although i like that site for the most part as well i know its usually never serious. @bb2 just seems to not like the things i say on here. Notice there is more than just me who called some of the racial insensitivity yet heshe tells me to leave. Which i guess is just fine if she wasn’t trying to speak for everyone or tell others how this site supposedly is. Im actually fine with most of the comments on here. To bad others cannot accept different opinions.
@jazzy
That is such a common rebuttal “if you don’t like it than leave.”
Yet they fail to understand this site made it self public for viewing and commenting, thus forth you have every right to express your opinion just like that other person.
to many people online that say stupid shit like that, to many
“So this site is now reduced to sexual and racial jokes now? I knew it was part it but i came for the honest opinions on a lot of things that are talked about here.”
THIS! And everything you wrote.
I hate sounding like an elitist asshole but i miss coming here and having a serious discussion on articles that are about serious subjects.
where is nana-ate-my-nana? He might have grated my nerves but at least he engaged with the subject and didnt reduce it to a fart joke.
I can’t help but feel addressed.
Man, the harpoons – I can feel them flying towards my innocent little soul from all of your comments.
Nah, it’s entertaining. There’s a place for saying whatever the fuck you want and developing a chat/community, but it’s a delicate balance between that and completely alienating any semblance intelligent discourse.
I don’t begrudge either of you, it’s just that even commenters here have yet to learn the concept of context, I think.
Time and a place. :o
@No_Min
It’s going to be okay, MAH LOVELEY!!!!!!
Okay I have to disagree a bit with the writer.
Idk if people would be making such a big deal out of it of she “fetishized” her pale skin instead. Singers sexualize their ass, tits, hair, eyes, whatever. The minority “victims” are coming out of the cave now and complaining only because it’s a “skin/supposedly race” issue.
“But this isn’t just an isolated event. Rather, her lyrics speak to a larger trend in K-pop, one that reflects a cultural bias that links darker skin with sexuality.”
More examples please?
“Take SISTAR for example, with all the articles written up on them by Korean tabloids and the attention they get for being “dark” – Hyorin and Bora in particular, the more endowed members of the group, sport tans almost all year long.”
I was under the impression that hyorin was the only dark one. What do you mean by more “endowed”? Nice body?
“might be tougher for international audiences (and in particular, black and Southeast Asian fans) to accept.”
Well as with the sistar example, isn’t hyorin the “dark one” the most popular member? How is being dark a disadvantage in this scenario, really?
I know that Lee Hyori tans and it had something to do with keeping a “sexy, mature” image. Same thing with rain and some actors (I don’t know their names because I hate Kdramas and don’t take the time to learn the names of the horrible actors, but I know one of them was in Iris)
And when Bora and Hyorin got tanner, netizens from Korea flipped out on those two, saying shit like how ugly they were compared to Dasom and how they looked lower in class
Stupid shit. I think that there was stuff about it on AJ actually
Yeah I read an article about it on omona… I think the comments taken from it was 50/50 though? Some people trolled about them being “dark and smelly” and some defended Sistar. Eh, it’s the internet so it’s not like those things should be taken seriously though.
RAWR @bb2
YOU’RE KILLING ME WITH THE ESSAYS!!!11!1!
Oh you troll- starting all of the confusion and chaos
*claps slowly in awe*
Hah yeah I got carried away, sorrieeee.
I can’t troll as well as you do
LOL don’t even bother read Jazzy’s pressed ass essays.
This is the exact thing many of us were alluding to in an earlier thread about starting debates on race. I would think that by now ppl who comment here regularly would have learned not to take what is said here too seriously.
Yes. We have opened the box of Pandora.
And it doesn’t contain genitals as I previously thought.
It wasn’t the European colonization that made Koreans think pale skin was better. It was like that everywhere, even in regions untouched by Europe.
Tan= working in fields= lower class
Pale= owns/ hires working people= higher class
That’s how skin tone was seen
Shit that was supposed to be a reply to Jungki
I know, but it wasn’t until Europeans opened up Korea that skin tone became associated with politics and power. While skin tone was indicative of social status, Korea continued to be a overwhelmingly agricultural, isolationist society, unlike Japan and China. So every Korean, whether born into a high social status or not, was born with a dark skin tone, due to the fact that over generations of sun exposure, tan skin had become a part of their genes. When Europeans came over and forced open Korea to the West, even the most powerful, the ones’ with the highest social status, were considered ‘dark’ by the Europeans, and therefore backwards. Skin tone was now no longer just a indicator of social status, but a indicator of political status. This is when the major shift towards pale skin being the ‘ideal’ began.
Wow some of the comments are some serious shit…….
“Asian Junkies” arguing = Trouble in my paradise :(
It’s all good, you sexy thing.
At least the arguing people on here are actually discussing instead of insulting each other because of their bias or some shit.
@bb2
Having read some of your previous comments on other articles written here i can tell that you and others on this site lack critical thinking skills.
“Who ever said black is beautiful, was a damn lie. I go to bed praying every night, hoping I wake up lightskin or white. It sucks not being able to wear certain colors because my black skin throws it off. Also I really can’t pull off wearing sandals with no socks, with my big black ass jungle feet”
Do you go around saying this shit about your race? I get that this might be too complex for your simple mind to comprehend but it isnt funny. If you must be offensive to tell a joke then maybe you’re not funny at all.
Be careful your stupidity is showing.
Sorry, I’m illiterate
lol
LOLOLOLOL
Context is important though.
Knowing whether or not somebody is poking fun at you or the idiots who actually think like what they’re representing.
I dont get the context of his ‘joke’ with this article? He added absolutely nothing to the topic being discussed.
That wasnt the least bit funny. Like saying the most absurd thing and expecting people to get your very crass ‘humor’.
Im not against people taking a piss and what not but fuck at least contribute to the topic being discussed like a person with a brain,who doesnt need to make fart jokes all the damn time just so people say “lol” to your basic thinking ass.
He always does that so I “got” it.
If he was serious, I would have banned him already.
You seem upset
If you’re talking about Koreanboo- which I assume you are based on the other people’s comments, it took me awhile to get used to his satire as well, which resulted in me overreacting to him on a Hyori post (sorry for that btw Koreanboo). But I kinda get it now. Kinda. None of what he says is serious, ever. I actually sort of respect him now, for being able to keep up with it for so long.
@JungKi
He is adorable, isn’t he?
I sure do want to sit on his fucking face.
Trying not to sound like an elitists but we used to have discussions on this site when an article like this came up.
There are plenty of other articles where we can all talk about fucking each other in the nose and ear and where ever the fuck else but now….
Where did all the old people go?
Like who?
As I said, probably going to implement commenting rules after the layout switch, but it’s not much different in here besides more diarrhea.
At this point ill take Nana-at-my-nana.
@Koreanboo
Tell me more -_-
He left because he didn’t want to deal with the amount of people calling hot women ugly and stupid shit like that.
:o
@IATFB
So are going to get bigger avatars and a signature?
Signatures on a blog? Fuck no.
I seen it before
Probably not, no.
Avatars? I could see. Sigs? Fuck no.
How about a chat or p.m or something, so we don’t have to spam articles whenever we want to talk to eachother?
Might go that route.
I thought you were going to completely overhaul the comment system
Maybe?
WHAT DUH HERRRRRRrrRrRrR ARE THESE SIGNATURES AND AVATAR THINGS?!?!?!?
you don’t know that shit?_?
Nope
I’m so ignorant
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/J_Swayze/untitledb.jpg
So a signature is a picture? And why is having a bigger avatar bad?
O.O
ME SO DUMB
@kafkaf
All this time I thought you knew how to troll?_?
The only point I would see for wanting bigger avatars is for better T & A shots of your bias. If the avatar on this site was bigger it would be hyuna’s tits for mine
@Kafkaf
Bigger avatars are always a win and most sigs are wide letterbox style pictures or gifs
@Mybias
But HyunA breast are the size of premature oranges. Not hating, just saying. Now if you want to post boobs, G.Na should be the first on your list
@koreaboo
G.Na has nice tits but so fug in the face perfect for an avatar
@Koreanboo
@mybiasbeatsyourbias
TANKUHYEW
“No_Min 11/01/2012 at 3:11 AM -
I can’t help but feel addressed.
Man, the harpoons – I can feel them flying towards my innocent little soul from all of your comments.”
Lol oh No Min, what would we do without you
You’d feel miserable without me because I’m just too fucking adorable.
And I like penis and you happen to have one of those.
…..Hm…
Interesting comments….
I… kinda don’t care about HyunA. I just know people either love her or hate her for being too sexy *shrugs* but her tan looks bad with that hair color.
Seeing as in many east asian, south east asian and south asian cultures dark skin is associated with vulgar/loose women I’m not surprised they tried to have hyuna bank on that.
Even though her skin isn’t even close to tan.
but she doesn’t fetishize her skin tone she was told by other koreans that her skin is dark and that she looks black. And she believes it. lol, there is a rookie male group with one of the members who has dark skin for a korean (so not very dark for us) and they call him barack obama. And he’s happy.
like wtf …
The fuck… Who is it though lol?
No kpop idol will ever be as bad ass as Obama.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2a9uwxw.gif
http://i48.tinypic.com/2zfveh0.gif
I’d do him.
the group is c-clown, they’re not famous
and this is Maru the one they call “obama” (he’s 14 or something)
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbrbfqyzVb1qlsxl4.jpg
totally twins
who wouldn’t do obama?
That’s ridiculous! Ahahahhahaa.
Fucking great.
Obama is definitely hotter even though it’s kinda hart to tell them apart.
isnt he mixed or some shit? upon debut he had a diff nose