
Sam Lansky, a writer for the ESPN-affiliated Grantland, recently dipped his feet into the K-pop waters on the back of his previous experience with the genre. Predictably, he found his feet bitten off by the fandom.
It’s hilarious how frightened he sounds by the insane fans, but also sort of sad.
I tweeted, joking: “Who is this guy from TVXQ and why does he keep undressing me with his eyes?” A few moments later, my timeline was flooded with responses from the few dozen K-pop fans who followed me, as one of the handful of American music journalists who had jumped on the K-pop bandwagon; they identified him as Yunho. I quickly followed up: “Turns out his name is Yunho and we’re eloping after the concert tonight, bye.” Those tweets were retweeted in rapid-fire succession, and soon my phone was vibrating with so many new followers that I had to turn off my notifications.
Several of my new followers pointed me to the handle of another K-pop star, Kim Jaejoong, from the boy band JYJ; it wasn’t hard to figure out that the fans believed that Yunho and Jaejoong were gay lovers. I was on a trolling high. Foolishly, I tweeted at him. “@mjjeje Hey, guess what? I’m coming for your man. Hope you’ve got him on a tight leash.” Overnight, my followers skyrocketed; I received friend requests from dozens of Asian K-pop fans; GIFs and memes were made using my Twitter photo; someone on Tumblr took a screenshot of that string of tweets, which has 1,178 notes to date. A month later, I was sent the scan of a Japanese tabloid called Yoochun News, which had an article about the mysterious American journalist (I was identified in silhouette only as Mr. S) whose love for Yunho had captivated fans.
Most chillingly, though, there was a deluge of death threats from crazed fans who, whether they perceived me as an actual threat to the imagined romance between Yunho and Jaejoong or merely an annoyance who should to be silenced, gave me pause in an online game that had become addictively pleasurable. “Let me show you how you shall die,” one began. “@mjjeje has only a 100+ stalkers. One order from his lush lips … and your throat shall be slit!” There were many others, but that one stuck with me — mostly because it was retweeted so many times.
Annnnnnnddddddd … welcome to K-pop, Sam Lansky.
I’ve believed for a while now that the insane K-pop fandom would be an obstacle rather than a boon for K-pop’s quest to become mainstream in America for exactly these types of situations.
If K-pop continues to grow, then more and more people will get curious and show an interest in K-pop, but they won’t yet totally grasp what comes along with the reactionary and emotionally unstable fandom, and as soon as they try to dip their feet in the K-pop waters, sharks like the people depicted above will start nipping at the toes of prospective fans and it will scare people away.
Sad.
It’s as much a visual style as a sonic one, though, and the videos are where the magic happens. Like American pop stars, K-pop “idols” — as they’re known — are uniformly willowy, beautiful, and charismatic, with jaw-dropping choreography and dizzyingly high production values. Unlike American pop stars, K-pop idols command a level of obsession among their fans that easily outshines the Beliebers and Directioners, and their choirs of screaming adulation have become as much a part of an album campaign as the music itself. No, K-pop fans can be scary.
“K-pop is like a drug,” an executive at a top Korean label told me. (He asked to remain anonymous.) “The fans — they’re hooked. It’s like a cult, or a drug that they want more and more of.”
With K-pop, stan behavior carries over into the real world with frequent, alarming consequences. In my estimation, the most majestically insane instance of this surrounded the object of my affection, Yunho, who was backstage during the taping of a variety show several years ago when the fan of a rival group sneaked backstage and poisoned him. (Yunho was hospitalized and the perpetrator was arrested.)
Remember, these are people that care obsessively about K-pop and go around on sites like these whining about how racist America is and how much better their oppars and unnirs are than those dumb dirty American artists, but those same fans are a big reason that people get turned off by the fandom, slowly lose interest, or quit altogether.
These people are part of K-pop’s problem in America, not the solution, and it’s all amusing to watch them continue to screw shit up for the thing that they love. It’s like self-immolation, but with epic comical irony.
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The article wasn’t just about his experiences with the fans though, as he does end up getting a revealing quote from an “executive at a top Korean label”*.
*How much do you wanna bet this was JYP?
That type of devotion is an A&R dream, and manufacturing fan support of that ilk should be a good thing, so it’s easy to see K-Pop fandom as a runaway train; the label executive I spoke with insisted that the fan engagement was organic but difficult to rein in. “There are no masterminds at our companies,” he said. “It happens itself. These fans create groups themselves, and find members. You can do it so easily now, with the technology of the Internet. It’s a lot more accessible. It’s just a cult … It’s really hard to control.”
I’ve never actually heard that admission from a person directly responsible for creating the good and bad of the idol culture in Korea.
What Sam Lansky revealed was probably more insightful and revealing than anything I’ve read from Korean entertainment journalists over the years, which is sort of sad, considering this piece wasn’t an investigative journalism deal or anything, just a blog post for Hollywood Prospectus.
Overall, I found it to be an illuminating story in regards to both how K-pop works and how the fandom acts. Though I think in the end it revealed more negative than positive.
Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
“Annnnnnnddddddd … welcome to K-pop, Sam Lansky.”
That was literally, word for word, the thought I had after reading his statement. The sad thing is that he’s only seen the tip of the iceberg.
Honestly, I think a fan sending him death threats is already beyond the tip of the iceberg. Period blood letters, saesang fans, they’re all niche portions of fandom, and whilst they are fucking harmful and there’s enough of them to cause concern, they’re hardly commonalities.
Nope. Sounded pretty normal to me.
You should see the messages sites get.
Would you like to make an article about funny messages you have got?
I am sure that would be entertaining.
I agree with No_min :)
Please do share.
and I’m not surprised, you should hear the hate I’m receiving for coming here and interacting with you.
“THEY ARE NOTHING BUT HATERS”
“HOW CAN YOU ACCEPT THAT THEY ARE INSULTING OPPAR/UNNIER LIKE THAT?”
even my non kpop fans friends hate you XD
“This website is very degrading for women, it only views these singers as a sexual object”
lol I only laugh in response :)
It seems he is doing it right if stupid people freak out.
Please share~~~~
With the articles his site have, there have to be crazier shit than death threats :O
Yeah, maybe I should. :o
@Schizo_phrenia
I always find those people amusing.
Apparently men aren’t allowed to look at beautiful women and be honest about how it makes them feel.
But women are allowed to write rape fantasies about minors in boy bands.
Who knew?
Did you really like the blog post that much? I read it and honestly thought it was nothing new or particularly enlightening. He played along with some DBSK fans, some had fun with him, others were freakish, and then he went and wrote about the most fanatical part of the K-pop fandom. I’m pretty sure I’ve read an article similar to this before actually, by a Singaporean journalist.
Whilst I don’t disagree with what he’s saying, that whole blog post didn’t really do anything new for me, and just seemed to be reinstating what was kind of obvious. That there is a portion of fandom that are fucking nuts.
I wish he had expanded on the 1D allusion more thought. That is something that’d be interesting to explore, since they’re the closest parallel K-pop has in the west.
Just my opinion.
Yeah, it basically laid out how I think most casual American music lovers would find the K-pop fandom.
Wander in, get torn to shreds by tween dumb shits, and then never come back.
Psychosis among this fan base is plentiful from every fandom of every group. There’s always a group of trolling idiots who start fucking going nuts if you say anything WRONG about their bias, much less anything NEGATIVE.
It’s just off-putting and it IS a normality.
“Wander in, get torn to shreds by tween dumb shits, and then never come back.”
If that’s the main issue here, then I don’t see how it’s exclusive to tween dumb shits in K-pop. Beliebers, One Direction, they all have fans that go effing insane when people insult them. There’s also the fact One Direction is still relatively new, who’s to say their fandom won’t become cray cray in years to come? The difference with K-pop fans is that K-pop isn’t a mainstream entity in the west the way the Biebz and One Direction is, so Journalists aren’t used to the overbearing presence of their fans the way they are with Beliebers and Directioners.
i haven’t heard of any attempted murders, suicides, etc from one direction fans while there are multiple cases in the kpop world
@kafkaf
Apart from the ELF suicide one and the Yunho incidence, what other incidences were there? I’m genuinely curious :o
If we’re talking about fans getting injured, then it’s not uncommon in 1D fandom or Justin Bieber fandom at all.
http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?Section=Movies&ID=221099&subcatg=&keyword=Music&nid=221099
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/x-factor/one-direction-2012-fans-injured-in-sydney-1d-being-sued-and-announce-2012-australia-new-zealand-tour-dates/
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/845624-one-direction-fan-injured-in-x-factor-scrum
The thing is, the West doesn’t promote the kind of idol-fan relationship that K-pop does. When they do, the consequences are similar.
So apart from the incidents that show how psycho K-pop fans are, they aren’t that psycho at all?
Really?
I’m saying that the pyscho stuff is an extreme of fandom, and every single hardcore fandom out there has it’s extremes. The stuff like poisoning and suicide may not have happened to 1D or Biebz, but it’s hardly a common occurrence in K-pop. And the normality of fans getting angry over people saying anything negative about their favourite bands/groups happens every where.
To me the only difference here is this guy got a bunch of attention from K-pop fans simply because he’s an American journalist writing about K-pop, which happens to be a niche market. If he had said the same thing about 1D Directioners wouldn’t bother with him since they’re already mainstream in the west, so a journalist showing interest in them would be no big deal.
I can honestly say, having seen what fans of Justin Bieber and One Direction do, that the K-pop fandom is worse.
Remember, Justin Bieber and One Direction are far more relevant than any individual K-pop group, yet the fans of K-pop groups are far more vocal and act far more insane.
Says a lot.
I’ll just say that it wasn’t always like this in the K-pop fandom.
Those seem to be stories primarily dealing with people getting hurt in stampedes though, which is hardly the same as making death threats the norm on social media. Also, to the extreme, making an attempt on the idols themselves.
You basically explained why K-poppers are worse than what you see elsewhere yourself:
“The thing is, the West doesn’t promote the kind of idol-fan relationship that K-pop does. When they do, the consequences are similar.”
For cultural reasons, I don’t think they are exactly the same situations.
“To me the only difference here is this guy got a bunch of attention from K-pop fans simply because he’s an American journalist writing about K-pop, which happens to be a niche market.”
That’s my whole point and exactly why I found it telling.
Here’s a guy coming into it with a blank slate and look at what they did.
Yeah, what he said
Not to mention the amount of death threats or every little thing
@IATFB
“I’ll just say that it wasn’t always like this in the K-pop fandom.”
When and why did it change? How was it like before now? Super curious.
Dunno.
Back when it was less popular, the discourse internationally seemed to be very different from Korean netizens. Much higher. Teenagers, yes, but not the rapid fan types you see now. We used to have disagreements, but it never devolved into these fanbases going insane if you said anything bad about their faves and issuing physical threats and stuff like that.
In our current state, international netizens are every bit as bad as Korean netizens.
“Let me show you how you shall die”
I’m surprised AKF and asianjunkie haven’t received those comments.
We haven’t?
LOL you have? ok
I may be an objectifying bastard but my only two reasons to listen to idol pop is:
1) pretty Asians
2) I like to listen to Korean
Btw, to me this “cult” behavior isn’t a stranger. For the longest time I was part of the anime/manga fan community however after I grew out of being stupid – and actually started reading on shit before claiming to know what I’m talking about – I left.
The spaghetti monster knows, I’m a die hard reader of Japanese comics and always been fond of Japanese animation as well – but when ppl tell me mangas are not comics and animes are not cartoon animations I get a bit irritated.
It’s like claiming orange is not a fruit because it’s not an apple.
Delusional fans of the anime/manga community act the exact same way as kpop fans. They are overprotective, blindfolded and extreme in their opinion.
Suppose this is the side effect of cultures crashing and people getting confused. Most ppl who have so far jumped on the delusion wagon seem to feel misplaced/misunderstood/misrepresented in their own culture and/or doesn’t know much about it and their favored one.
I’m envious of Chinese, Koreans and Japanese for their traditional music and fashion but I would never in my life put my own traditional heritage down in a comparison. In fact, I can’t even compare the two…
Idk how the idiots do it :/
The pretty Asian part…..
These fans proclaim their love for their oppars/ unnirs, yet I bet that if, let’s say L from Infinite, got into a car accident and his face was melted off, not too many fans would stay to support him
And they say they’re less shallow because of Kpop
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I’m more annoyed by the people who think looking good = talent.
( explains why I can’t stand SNSD fans )
I have this serious crush on Goo Hara but I would be the first one to cut my lips off if I ever claimed her a talented singer.
You must hate 99% of all Kpop fans then
” but when ppl tell me mangas are not comics and animes are not cartoon animations I get a bit irritated. “
LOL!!!!! Omg I know your pain… I remember this girl back in highschool when we were freshmen, actually arguing with someone who isn’t quite into anime/manga about how anime isn’t ‘cartoons.’ The wtf is it!? It’s drawn stuff that’s in motion….. that’s pretty much what a cartoon is. Or when weaboos actually believe anime only refers to animations from Japan. Shut up and stop effin up the Japanese language. Ugh…. I just usually ignore them or if what they say really pisses me off, enlighten them.. and go about my business ^^
Pretty Asians*
I to thought they were pretty (not saying they aren’t), until I saw them without make-up, push-up bra, plastic surgery and camel toe pads.
They’re normal like every other group….except for the black people. Those negros are just ugly & ghetto. Bishes always using EBT cards at Walmart buying Fruit Roll-ups and Hot Pockets. Damn they get on my nerves
Camel toe?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx4gg6Ftww1qb9h9jo1_400.gif
One slap of a camel toe a day, can keep your sexual frustration away.
You troll quite hard.
Just saying
Honestly I get a lady boner for everything that has puffy cheeks, baby fat, O-legs, halfmoon or cat eyes, height between 140-160 and suits my taste in women.
Black brothers are fucking hot, mind you.
The compared Kpop fans to 1D fans and Beliebers
You know what that means
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“TAHM FOH YO DEAAAAATTTTTHHHH1!1!!!!”
*he
GOSH DARN IT
hahahaha, that gif probably shows an actual kpop fangirl about to launch rage mode.
Fucking awesome. Best way he could troll those idiots without even trying.
the gif is just XD
but no seriously, I never understood why exactly do Kpop fans feel superior than 1D fans or Beliebers !?
It’s much like how Jpop/anime fans feel superior to Kpop fans !!!!!
They are ALL THE SAME
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He will get skinned alive. Hundreds of fangirls and fanboys will find him, hunt him down and impale him.
But as for the merit of the article, I have to agree with one thing – Internet makes fandoms go round. What would Kpop be without it? I realized it’s existence while living in Seoul, so I basically had it shoved down my throat on a daily basis, but I imagine people (girls?) find something on YouTube and then dig into it…
Kpop seems to show craziest and most violent sides of people.
Just out of curiosity… How big kpop really is in South Korea? I’m always under the impression that most people there don’t really give a shit about idols, save for one or two extremely popular ones.
I always heard it was more of a middle school girl thing in Korea… One of my friend’s said a Korean exchange student came to their university and they tried to ask him about Infinite, f(x), ect. and he had no idea what they were talking about lol.
I’ve been there before the all the international hype, more during Shinhwa days, so I’m probably not the best source to answer that… IATFB will know more, probably. But yes, Shinhwa was really popular and talked about a lot. If any other bands were mentioned (they probably were) I either didn’t pay attention or didn’t care enough.
All of the exchange students I’ve talked to and the ones I know that live there (one of them is an underground rapper, his mentor is Swings- pretty much the only reason I know anything about k-hiphop) either don’t care for Kpop or hate it.
One of the chicks that came here from there was saying it is like how not every American likes Gaga or Katy Perry or Britney Spears
Like Korean adults?
How do you feel about Justin Beiber?
:o
I mean, let’s be honest with ourselves here, this isn’t exactly a hobby with mainstream acceptance that’s considered a normal thing for adults to do.
So I might just be acting stupid right now…
How come so many idols are flooding variety shows and shit if people hate hearing about them? That part always confused me. If they really were a “niche” group, then how come they’re everywhere on TV shows (at least the famous ones I know run by Yoo Jae Suk, etc.)?
I mean I might see Bieber on Ellen or some talk show for 15 mins but that’s about it.
Different versions of celebrity between Asia and the West, I think. They’re made to be more accessible in Asia, whereas the mystique and intangible is valued here.
Never said they weren’t mainstream though, everybody knows them, just like everybody knows Justin Bieber. However, the reason celebrities always appear on shows is because that’s the way it’s setup in Asia. Those shows basically revolve around them.
When idols start infiltrating the stuff that a lot of Korean adults do love, like their dramas, they absolutely do show their resentment for them.
:o
My friend told me it’s really just middle school kids and most people only really like the artists and maybe the more talented/artistic groups, but that indie bands are really popular right now.
“He will get skinned alive. Hundreds of fangirls and fanboys will find him, hunt him down and impale him.”
If we’re talking about intl fans…. no they won’t. All of them talk big on the internet, but none have actually done anything in reality. I’m sure Snoop laughed at those who sent threat tweets when he made fun of SNSD. If they haven’t realized, American celebs aren’t like Korean ones in terms of death threat tweets and in turn commit suicide. Nor do many have to ‘watch what they say or will lose endorsements and have to have a hand-written apology.’ So.. those intl crazy fans, esp those who are American, should know whatever they say isn’t gonna have the same effect.
Besides, they really think Jaejoong will tell his fans to kill someone? I mean, yeah they manipulated their fans all these years when they left/sued SM but… I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t actually publicly write something like that (because he knows they would actually do it lol)
This.
I wouldn’t even be scared for a second if you put me in a crowd of crazy fan girls. I so wish I could slap the shit out of them only once, how much fun that would be.
I guess I really have to visit one of those kpop concerts in Europe and puke on all the bitches that scream in my fucking ears.
can i join in?
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Please do! Then we can even finger each other and squirt on some hoes.
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Yup, all talk.
Americans don’t take Internet hate as seriously anyway. Comes with the territory, really.
Yeah I’m growing to hate Kpop because of this reason. I thought that maybe if I started paying attention to groups that aren’t too big but good (GLAM, Dalmatian) that the crazies wouldn’t annoy me enough to leave, but there are always those irritating fans that appear who are like “DIS MV TOTARRY COPAYZ OFF UV MAH UNNIRS!!!”/ “MAH OPPARS STYLE- THEY R PRETENDING THEY HAV IT!!!!” or some shit
And BlockB is my favorite band, but there are so many more crazies that are now obsessing over them that it makes block b less appealing
Maybe they should have another scandal to scare off them crazies…..
Yes, Glam is good. And I heard Big Hit Entertainment was one of those laid back companies and were really liberal :o me like.
Have you listened to AoA? I liked them too :o Elvis was catchy, in my opinion.
IMMA GO LISTEN TO ELVIS
I’ve heard of AOA, but never actually listened to them
And how did you know that it was SONE?!??
But seriously, ELVES (is that how you make it plural???), SONEs, Blackjacks, and VIPs are the worst with it. They do that shit all of the time and then they wonder why there are antis of their oppars and unnirs
I just try and ignore all the other fans and pretend that they don’t exist because all I really want is some fun music to listen to on my mp3 player while I wander about in town, and sometimes to look at men with their shirts off.
I get so sick of not just the bitching, but hearing about how someone looks like a “goddess” even when they’ve only been in make-up for 4 hours and been carefully styled and photoshopped, or that they just “keep getting prettier”.
I’m moving to Korea in a few weeks and I think I’m going to pretend that I don’t know anything about kpop at all because I don’t want to get mistaken for a crazed fangirl. I used to be pretty cool so I think I can pull it off.
I’m jelly. It’s great there (at least for a vacation, surely it changes when you actually work/live there).
When I visited last year I didn’t know shit about kpop, never knew it even existed.
I got fucking trashed with merchandise of kpop idols every time I bought something in a cosmetics store and when I asked our business partner what the fuck all of this shit was, she got really embarassed (also when I asked why there’s a bunch of boy bands jumping around on my TV screen every time I turn it on in the hotel).
So the grown ups who actually work instead of stalking idols do not seem to be too proud of the idol groups, also they do not boast about it (at least the ones I’ve met).
And now look how I ended up, even though it freaked me out at the beginning. My brain was infected in just a couple of days.
@icrawledoutofthesea
oh jeez- GOOD LUCK, MY FRAND!!! MAY THE HOLY JUICES OF NO_MIN PROTECT YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY
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@No_Min
you’ve been to korea too? WAI HAS EVERYONE HERE BEEN/ IS GOING TO KOREA??!!? i can’t imagine many business opportunities unless you’re working for samsung or something.
but i’m ignorant here- EXPRAIN YOSELVES
Samsung would be awesome!
Gaming industry it is.
My father, who’s a university professor went there on an exchange program. We just tagged along.
I’m going there to study Korean because I like languages and to be honest, I think my boss was going to fire me soon anyway.
“but there are always those irritating fans that appear”
how ’bout SONE’s who appear in like every single video that has absolutly nothing to do with SNSD and preach about how SNSD is totally better then this shit?
IT’S PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE SAME SHIT!!!!
ERMAHGERD, these fans
Like I said, they damage their own biases with their passion.
Sones give SNSD such a bad name by being so pretentious with the group and overestimating the groups’ abilities. I love them too, but I don’t worship them.
I love underdog groups a lot surprisingly enough. (Secret/SISTAR before they got big but I still like them, Dalmatian, She’z, Nine Muses.)
Exactly
Yeah, besides a few minor issues, I don’t have much reason to dislike SNSD, but their fans … ugh.
I can’t believe you found a picture of a group of asians without their faces being blurred
I love what you get out of these articles
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Why would anyone be attracted to horse-face Yunho
ERMAHGERD THIS THIS THIS- LET ME LOVE YOU
He’d be such a perfect mate for Horsica. They could gallop off into the sunset and leave the rest of us freaking alone
Yes! It’s the first time we agree on a dick.
What a beautiful moment, I’ll celebrate it by getting drunk by myself.
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Maybe because his penis was inside Jaejong and Boa? That should raise his value a little.
That only lowered demand
Yunho is a good looking dude. :o
Yeah. Because weird bone structure is great
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“One order from his lush lips … and your throat shall be slit!”
Lol that’s how you know they’re crazy.
But yeah, I agree… it’s a cult. “Alwaaaays keep the faith…. alwaaaays keep the faaaaaaith… THE POWER OF NINE COMPELS YOU! OPPAAAAA DIDN’T MEAN IT!!!!”
That’s how you know someone’s been reading or writing far too many fanfictions…Besides, aren’t all fanfictions about Jaejoong depicting him as a gangster? Fits perfectly if you ask me…
With one order from his “lush” lips and all of his goons will come after you.
Rule #1 of the K-pop Fandom:
Thou shalt not fuck with YunJae shippers. They be batshit.
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THIS
Challenge accepted.
Is there a YunJae forum or some shit like that?
…or Hunhan shippers a.k.a SM’s new YunJae since they are no longer available
Who’s that sexy lady in your prof
Park ShinHye
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I think the comments he received are pretty standard fare. To be honest……ive seen MUCH worse. :-/
Isn’t it pretty sad that those are considered standard? lol
All part of the welcome basket!
Package 2 will arrive in a few weeks, including, but not limited to: death threats to families, your very own website hacked, and a box of tampons (they may be used, proceed with caution).
hahhaa, exactly. Love your comment.
Don’t understand why everyone freaks out about used tampons though.
Guess I overcame that disgust when I had to save my friend from a tampon (turned by 90 degrees) that was deep in her entrance because she fucked a guy without taking it out.
You should try that, too. It’s a thrilling experience.
Btw, I know you wrote how Universal was making their own Kpop group ~~ I was on a Korean website and it looks like Sony Music also held auditions in Korea earlier this month…
Should be interesting to see how The Big Three respond to that.
I’m personally guessing that they’ll be slayed by the competition if any huge company makes up a group. Limitless resources and money and shit.
YG/SM/JYP have nothing on Universal or Sony…
lol It is pretty sad that these are fairly “normal” commenst, but once you’ve lurked or even participate in any sort of kpop fandom (lets be honest fandoms period are all a bit cultish) you just start to ignore this shit because it becomes routine and expected.lol.
well i think that people get so attached to these idols because they’re exactly that – idols
someone to be worshipped
also yea kpop fans are fucking crazy, i’ve gotten death threats from people on tumblr for having not so nice opinions on people in kpop.
Honestly, the best way to get rid of these crazies is to out-crazy them.
Freak THEM out
How do we out crazy the craziest of them all though?
we have something that they don’t
No_Min
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not to mention our crazy ass selves. we will get all of them fangurls with a simple threat
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and then
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AND WE MUST OBTAIN THIS BANANA MAN
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because of reasons
ahahhahaha – the fucking banana gif!
That’s it. I am moving to fucking Japan.
It reminded me of this shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2HSo3yywDU
Omfg, you have to watch this crap. That’s my kind of song.
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i,…i don’t even know what to say….. so many emotions to video…. can’t tell which correct…. akjd;fjiafio
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AND WAI SO MANY DISLIKES??!1
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I guess my shame for this shit is growing more and more . honestly i kinda hate seeing anything kpop related in america for the facts the fandom gets stupider and stupider each time .
i saw psy video on tv in a Mexican restaurant with a group of people i know and everyone was singing it .once i decided to correct them on the pronunciation and who he was no one really gave a shit .
at the end of the day the fans determine if k-pop really succeeds or not . i mean really they scare everyone off . im actually starting to drift away from what i used to like . each day i start to want to not even see taeyang face and i love his face .
kpop is just like any other music but one thing for sure no belieber or 1D fan will ever have the power of a kpop fan because at the end of the day they sorta have a fucking life (besides the crazy ones who are probably 7-12 )
i cant even watch a youtube video without seeing a anti or a crazy fan getting on the commenting section and starting a f-cking irrelevant argument ,that was made because someone didnt like someone hair style or someone liked the mv before the new one.
i guess sooner of later we’ll start seeing fans become headlines for the news .
“HEAD LINES : stalking fans come out and discuss how everyone hates them and sends them death threats.but of course they dont know why because all they are doing is being normal humans and watching their idols in their private time . not to mention they also scare off any chance for their idols to get a gf/bf because they threaten their potential spouse with death letters .
please stay tune because we have a fan who comes out and talks about how they got locked up for sneaking into TVXQ hotel room and sniffing the dirty towels .”
the bloody tampon is still the worst
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stupid annoying fans- i feel the exact same
I’d make myself a tea out of yours anytime, my love.
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OH YOU!
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@ Kafkaf That was the worst ! why would anyone want someone bloody tampon ? =__= that’s like someone licking eating onew sh-t out of the toilet .
I swear if anyone ever attempted that with me (besides No_min of course :D) i would punch them in the uterus .
“HEADLINES: the crazy fan told us about her she would scrape off the old cum from the idols (when they was done masturbating /sexual intercourse) and put it in a container so she could eat it later .”
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the things they do is so *shiver *
and they say the crazy fans are the best !(according to the people who never ever experience it first hand )
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LET US WORK TOGETHER TO CORRUPT THE FANGURLS AND GIVE THE ONES THAT DON’T COME TO OUR SIDE TO NO_MIN
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teamwork
It is so touching that I can do everything you guys despise and get away with it.
How beautiful. If AJ was a country, I’d move to it right away and become a serial butt rapist.
When yall women pull out your tampon, do you all play with it? Pretend it’s nunchucks and swing it around thinking your some kind of ninja
I fucking hate cleaning, so no.
@No Min
Look at it as art
I’ll be sure to donate some to you to help you fulfill your dream of tampon art
Say something about how it represents how women are seen and shit- get LOOOOOOTS of money then and give me 50%
@KafKaf
That’s okay. I’ll just steal one from my girl trash can
Little afraid to ask this, but how you gonna do that?
Herrp. Was supposed to be a reply to kafkaf on how to freak out the k-pop fans. Ne’er mind.
oh you herpaderp you
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i say that we assemble like the fucking avengers and raid the homes of all fangirls, letting No_Min loose on their poor souls, TATA at raping everyone in a nice TATA sandwich, my best friend Jung Juri releasing her dragon powers on them bitches
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so excited
kafkaf and Jung Juri should transform into a huge transformer with hydraulically driven monster dildos of fucking doom, tearing apart the fan girls pussies while laughing diabolically.
The remains of their bodies can be thrown to my feet and I will enjoy their virgin flesh between my teeth as I bathe my beautiful body in their blood and tears.
TATA should bang each other so the fan girls are blinded by the perversion that unfolds before their eyes so we have enough time to fucking attack their asses.
i like the way you think
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i want to see the mutilated and juice covered faces of the fangirls when we’re through with them
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off-topic: dean from supernatural is hot.
and i want zico’s dick. right now
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Those fangirls harrassed fucking Snoop Dogg (ganster rapper, as you know) into trying to retract his statements about SNSD. So…good luck with freaking THEM out…
no one here knows of my powers…
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People tend to lose their guts when the spotlight is put on them.
No shit Sherlock, no shit.
Seriously though, every fandom is insane. We’re just more familiar with this one and we see “stuff”… *sigh sigh siiiigh*
I liked this guys article, it was entertaining. I love hearing virgin minds get blown by the freaks of KPOP. I doubt he was scared by these fans though , hes a journalist, Im sure hes faced hating before, the difference is KPOP fans are more creative with the insults.
if any kpop fanatics do murder their idols, then i can finally consider them batshit crazy.
Was poisoning Yunho not enough? Lol. Thats attempted murder atleast!
as opposed to directly shooting their idols ? nah, poisoning ain’t that much direct compared to shooting and someone else can claim for it.
As a YJfan but I found this completely hilarious. The guy was obviously trolling for shits and giggles and most fans usually just play along all in fun humour. Most of us fans are old enough now that we mock our own fandom for the lols
To me the whole lush lips things sounded like sarcasm but there always a few crazies in every fandom
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Anyone seen this attention whore?
Fake or not, bitch got issue
Did anyone think of this when looking at that hand
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It looks deformed
“Overall, I found it to be an illuminating story in regards to both how K-pop works and how the fandom acts. Though I think in the end it revealed more negative than positive.”
Gee… ya think? I think that this is all just as well, given the wholly corrupt and decidedly criminal climate of the handlers of the Hallyu Wave, circa 2012. As Hamlet opined, “Something’s rotten in Denmark.” When a company like SM can operate with impunity, thumbing its nose at the legal system for a decade or more and continue to illegally ban the activities of a national treasure like JYJ while shamelessly parading itself before the American press as the “leader of the Hallyu Wave”…well then, maybe the whole ship has to go down like the Titanic because what these manipulators of young people, these thieves of the best and brightest S. Korea has to offer are doing is nothing short of murder of a whole music genre.
There are ways of handling it without throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Well, I’m all ears to know how exactly you would save this sinking ship. Please enlighten me.
:-)
I’ve explored it in previous posts, but as long as the government is going to support the industry directly, they could easily pass laws the force the industry to become more transparent, to protect the artists, and change the culture.
The problem is that they don’t want to because the status quo is comfortable.
Oh, OK. I thought when you said “ways of handling it” you had a workable idea. And well, no, the government isn’t going to be any help – not the current conservative one anyway. Any President who gives an executive pardon to Lee Soo Man after he was tried, convicted and sentenced to 4 years in prison for stock fraud — probably not gonna help. No the powers-that-be in the current gov’t believed the hype of how much money the Hallyu Wave was going to either generate or be the door-opener to generating and they drank the kool-aid. Really – there’s nothing for it. The ship’s gotta go down and what’s sad is the whole genre of K-Pop will be seen as a momentary and corrupt musical footnote by future generations.
Well it is a way of handling it. People just need to change.
Do I think it will happen? No.
I doubt you’ll get your wish though, there’s too much at stake for anything to bring it down.
Oh, it’s not my wish! I love Korean artists, so many of them. Korean pop music is pretty much all I listen to, although that really doesn’t include any idol groups except for JYJ who now seem to be transitioning out of that category anyway.
I would really like to find a workable solution to breaking the mob-like stranglehold the big entertainment companies have on the K-Pop industry and all the artists who labor in it. It’s not good. It can’t sustain itself like this. It’s racketeering and here in the US we frown on that. If SK wants to guarantee itself a lasting position in the global music marketplace, they’re going to have to make some serious changes to the way these companies do business.
So basically they took his joking too seriously
This fandom takes everything too seriously.
YJ fan was playing along with him like he was with us … We didn’t knew that he was that scared … if he was that frighted he needs to have stop right there only which he didn’t …
I too get that type of threat when I messed with other idol group but who care …
Fandom respect to those people who only respect their idol … but if you troll against them there would only be negative comment or threats …
… Don’t Messed with YJ fan, cuz some people of this fandom take everythings seriously …
Annnnnnnddddddd … welcome to K-pop, Sam Lansky Mwhahahaha *want to sound evil* 3:)