
So in case you haven’t heard yet, Psy is in hot water over in America, as his past involvement with “anti-American” protests have now caught up with him, garnering coverage from the mainstream media in America and a ton of backlash.
Being involved in protests isn’t so bad, and I suspect most people would completely shrug it off if they didn’t hear the specific lyrics he rapped in N.EX.T.‘s song, called “Dear American“.
Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives
Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers
Kill them all slowly and painfully
Pretty fucking raw, right?
Well, I agree, but there is a necessary context to all this though.
The concert reportedly took place months after the kidnapping — and subsequent beheading — of South Korean missionary Kim Sun-il by an Islamist group, who demanded the nation cancel plans to send 3,000 troops to support the U.S. war in Iraq. After the South Korean government refused to back down, Kim’s execution was videotaped, with the masked executioner stating “Korean citizens, you were warned, your hands were the ones who killed him … your soldiers are here not for the sake of the Iraqis, but for cursed Americans.”
After the beheading, massive protests erupted across South Korea, with citizens taking to the streets over the nation’s plans to send troops to Iraq. And it also helped fuel anti-American sentiment in the country, which had been simmering for almost two years, following the killing of two 13-year-old South Korean girls by members of the U.S. military — which has maintained a large presence in the country since 1954 — and their subsequent acquittal by American military courts. Psy also performed at a protest concert following that event, one where he lifted an American tank above his head and smashed it on the stage.
If you were aware of the situations at the time, you’d know that both incidents were a HUGE clusterfuck in Korea, so Psy’s feelings on the issues aren’t necessarily surprising.
Nevertheless, he has apologized for his actions.
Still, the vitriol in those lyrics was readily apparent, and on Friday (December 7), Psy issued a statement to MTV News, apologizing to anyone his words offended.
“As a proud South Korean who was educated in the United States and lived there for a very significant part of my life, I understand the sacrifices American servicemen and women have made to protect freedom and democracy in my country and around the world. The song I was featured in — from eight years ago — was part of a deeply emotional reaction to the war in Iraq and the killing of two innocent Korean civilians that was part of the overall antiwar sentiment shared by others around the world at that time,” the statement read. “While I’m grateful for the freedom to express one’s self I’ve learned there are limits to what language is appropriate and I’m deeply sorry for how these lyrics could be interpreted. I will forever be sorry for any pain I have caused anyone by those words.”
“I have been honored to perform in front of American soldiers in recent months — including an appearance on the Jay Leno show specifically for them — and I hope they and all Americans can accept my apology,” the statement concluded. “While it’s important we express our opinions, I deeply regret the inflammatory and inappropriate language I used to do so. In my music I try to give people a release, a reason to smile. I have learned that though music, our universal language we can all come together as a culture of humanity and I hope that you will accept my apology.”
What do I think? I think I can understand everybody involved. Every time something like this happens, you don’t have to choose a side and defend the position to the death, which people never seem to realize.
As a prime example of that, if you read the comment section on allkpop, you’ll see how it has turned into a Psy apology fest, where they basically complain about how terrible America and Americans are, so therefore it’s totally okay to say whatever about them. It’s hilarious to see them call Americans sensitive and what not, but if an American artist were to say Koreans and Japanese deserve to die, those same people would label the American artist a racist and probably rally for him/her to be banned from the country forever. After all, over there, shit follows you if you say anything that can even be remotely interpreted as anti-Korean or anti-Japanese, much less if they explicitly say it. So honestly, fucking spare me the whining about how Americans are reacting to it when you’re on an Asian entertainment site. I mean, really, do you think Americans are the only country in the world that would react badly to those lyrics? Give me a fucking break.
So I understand the backlash he’s getting, and if there was any doubt whether he would be a one-hit wonder or not, well … sadly I think this might be a nail in his coffin. People will take this shit personally, so it’s probably not the best idea to wish death on the market you’re trying to conquer. Hello and welcome to the price of celebrity, which is the exact reason I say that if K-pop wants to conquer America, they have to get with the modern societal standards here, because shit like this or idols doing blackface or whatever else will eventually come out if they become relevant. This will follow him for a while, which is ironically sort of death for a foreign artist trying to break new ground.
Of course, that’s not to say I don’t understand where he was coming from at the time. What he did was primarily an expression of emotions that he felt during that controversial time. The anger, the frustration, and the sadness came out as that hatred, which is sort of what artists do, so it’s not like it was some statement meant to be taken literally, as people seem to assume. As I said on Twitter, Psy doesn’t wish death on Americans any more than Ice Cube actually wanted to kill all Koreans or Eminem was actually going to kill his wife or gangsta rappers actually kill people regularly. Look, I can’t relate to actually killing people, but I do enjoy gangsta rap because I can relate to the emotions expressed, the feelings in the words. That’s what this was about to me.
Knowing how the Internet works though, I don’t expect either side to understand, especially now that both parties have already likely mounted their moral high-horses and are riding off into battle to slap fight each other online as we speak. For those of us who can put aside overreactions though, I’ll take it for what it is and move on.
Asian Junkie Asian pop. Without discretion.
I don’t think it’s really going to hurt him that much. For many, rap is the expression of emotions and since he’s a rapper, they understand where he was coming from. For others, they just want to be entertained. They could care less about your life or what you say outside of that. The majority of people will forget that it happened by this time next week because our attention spans are notoriously short and people really don’t care. Those that do care are actually not mad at Psy, though. They’re mad because he’s still performing at the White House. They’re actually using it as an anti-Obama sentiment. That’s the only reason he was under such scrutiny to begin with. But just like with their faux outrage about Common, most people will see this for what it really is. I could be wrong, but I don’t think that it’ll be that big of a deal, especially since he apologized.
He has cut his market though, as there are those who will shun him now.
For somebody trying to break new ground, and who has little chance of continued success to begin with, it’s not a recipe for success.
True, but if people are already seeing him as a one hit wonder as it is, then they’re really not going to pay much attention to this news. The majority of people who listen to pop are in their teens and early 20s. They’re not into politics, especially not from 8-10 years ago. Heck, even people who are into politics try their best to forget 2000-2008! LOL
You might be right, though. Maybe his market is gone and he’ll get shunned. Maybe we are a country who just can’t accept foreign criticism, but I think if he makes it through next week, he’ll be fine.
It’s the second-most popular story on CNN and it would be the most popular if it wasn’t for a suicide story involving the royal family. Safe to say people know about it.
He’s not just “some pop artist” or “some rap dude”, he’s trying to break new ground here. This isn’t going to help his already minimal chances at becoming a regular on the charts.
I’m a fan of his, so I’d love to be wrong here, but adding an “anti-American” label to his previously jovial, comedic image in America isn’t exactly going to do him any favors.
His battle has been uphill to repeat any of this, so it’s a significant barrier. We’re going to see how much pull Scooter Braun and his team have in damage control and how they can reform his image.
I don’t really care anymore
Thanks for the sanity. It’s pretty depressing: I’m not happy that Psy would say something like that, but nor do I want his American career to die. Too bad that as an international artist, there’s no such thing as forgive and forget in the U.S.
O.O the lyrics are a little scary, but everyone has said something stupid once in their lives. We’re all human, we’ll have human actions and reactions. I just wish that people would realize that misplaced anger will never be a solution or bring anything good.
I’ve already thought he’d be a one hit wonder, no shame to that though, but I don’t think it will hurt him that bad. If Chris Brown can still have a career, then Psy will get through this.
So what’s the reaction like in Korea? happy/sad/not give a fuck?
but then Chris Brown is at least American, and given how difficult it is for foreign artists to break into the US market in the first place, I don’t know how likely Psy can retain his popularity in the states.
Doubt Korea would have a negative reaction to it.
I don’t think it would be appropriate for him to still perform for the President, the performance will only grow Anti-Obama sentiment .
Oh for my conspiracy lovers, anyone thinking this was someone of Korean heritage that let the American media on this tip… someone had to translate those lyrics (just saying)
O shit.. just answered my own question http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-853509
When I first heard about the source, I honestly thought the whole thing was an evil scheme from some anti.
…Does that mean I had an “Oppa didn’t mean it!” moment?
No, you should always question unsourced shit.
Same.
Both for Obama and him. Should lay low a while.
Isn’t America all about freedom of speech, or at least that what they preach to the rest of the world. Anyway America is only buttburt because what psy said was true back in 2004. Bush, Cheney and his cronies forced Korea into a hellhole in which it had no business to go into in the first place. (Ie. Afghanistan and Iraq.) Psy
shouldn’t be apologizing, if anyone should be apologizing it should have been Bush and Cheney for bringing the country to a shithole.
Should probably re-read what freedom of speech actually protects.
Oh I knowwwwwwwwww!!!!! It lets me say anythingzz I want. Because, after all, hate America right? America is the bully of the world and everythingz.
But seriously, angrypanda get your shit together. 1st amendment protects the citizens from the people. Say what you will about the war, but it was already a bit of a shithole before. Saddam wasn’t exactly a saint.
–” It’s hilarious to see them call Americans sensitive and what not, but if an American artist were to say Koreans and Japanese deserve to die, those same people would label the American artist as racist and probably rally for him/her to be banned from the country forever.” — Did you overlook this park in the article? lol Also if you’ve ever lived in the US the hate for Bush/Cheney was and is still on going here
Yeah, safe to say that won’t be ending soon.
Well, isn’t freedom of speech about being allowed to criticize people’s beliefs, even harshly?
“Freedom of speech” doesn’t mean that you can say anything you want and not face any consequences. It just means that you can’t be arrested and thrown in the gulag for saying something.
It is perfectly legal (and protected by free speech) to say a bunch of racist things in public. However, if you think that “free speech” protects you from facing any personal or professional consequences from doing something like that, you’re crazy.
You are delusional.
“Freedom of speech” doesn’t mean “Free from being criticised for whatever you said”.
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/5/14/e61c3b07-f069-406b-93c7-e48c7532828c.jpg
Just because you don’t mean it doesn’t mean that it absolves you of the responsibility. Whilst I understandest that you weren’tst saying thatst, I feel that many of the peoplst are saying that. Gotta pay the consenquences, maybest that curbs some of the dumbassery that spoust from people.
I’m not absolving him of responsibility.
I’m saying the intent is different from the literal meaning. There’s context to everything.
I know. I specifically said that I know you weren’t saying that. ” I understandest that you weren’tst saying thatst”
Sorry, I honestly got lost in all the typos. I’m assuming auto-correct.
So while this has put a stake in his career, has it also put a stake in the Hallyu movement in the US? I’m wondering if another Kpop group/idol tries to debut in the US will they be immediately associated with Psy and thus…this clusterfuck.
Only the groups that have done shit like blackface. I’m sure Taeyeon calling Alicia Keys pretty for a black woman and what not won’t help either.
Gosh, don’t you know she didn’t really say that? Unnir said her black friend Alicia Keys was pretty… Obviously you don’ know Korean. *rolls eyes*
You are trolling with this, right?
If you’re being generous, it could be, “She’s really pretty despite her dark skin.”
I don’t even know how much better than is.
…yes I’m trolling (I thought ‘unnir’ gave it away >___>) because fans claimed hat she didn’t say for a black girl and that she said friend because some words in Korean sounded he same as another and blah blah.
“Heugeen chingoo jungmal numoo yebbojoh” translates to “Our black friend is pretty”. She never was racist.
Dear lord people are getting overly sensitive with this stuff.
Someone’s race is mentioned and it’s immediately racist? Lolno it isn’t.
All Taeyeon REALLY said was “Our black friend is pretty”. Native Korean speakers have confirmed this as the CORRECT translation, not the mistranslation made ages ago.
Yes she said “black” but that wasn’t even racist at all.
download the orignal clip here w w w(.)mediafire(.)com/?5ttmymmgtwm
She says:
Hangeul: 흑인 친구 정말 너무 예쁜 저
Romanized: Hugin chingu jeongmal nomu yeppeun cho
Transliterated: Black[person] friend really[truly] too[very much] pretty I
Translation: My black friend is really very pretty, I think.
She said ‘My Black friend is really pretty’ though the anti’s took that and switched the words to say: ‘For a black person she is really pretty’ and I stand by that. I’m black, too <3
That seems to be a handful of people’s stories and they’re sticking to it lol.
oops.. i probably should have showed indication that those were separate comments.
–“Heugeen chingoo jungmal numoo yebbojoh” translates to “Our black friend is pretty”. She never was racist.–
–Dear lord people are getting overly sensitive with this stuff.
Someone’s race is mentioned and it’s immediately racist? Lolno it isn’t.
All Taeyeon REALLY said was “Our black friend is pretty”. Native Korean speakers have confirmed this as the CORRECT translation, not the mistranslation made ages ago.
Yes she said “black” but that wasn’t even racist at all.—
—download the orignal clip here w w w(.)mediafire(.)com/?5ttmymmgtwm
She says:
Hangeul: 흑인 친구 정말 너무 예쁜 저
Romanized: Hugin chingu jeongmal nomu yeppeun cho
Transliterated: Black[person] friend really[truly] too[very much] pretty I
Translation: My black friend is really very pretty, I think.—
—She said ‘My Black friend is really pretty’ though the anti’s took that and switched the words to say: ‘For a black person she is really pretty’ and I stand by that. I’m black, too <3 —
there ^^
Yeah, from what I’ve seen, nobody is buying that shit except SNSD fans.
Ork Kikwang’s situation with b2st.
I’m glad he apologizes to everyone who was or is offended to his past stuff reguardless. To the AKP comments, those bitches need to have a row of seats. If it was your country he was going ham on,– oh what’s the use. This is AKP I’m going off about..
Speaking of topics like this, I can’t stand it when someone think a person could really take back about what they feel or from that moment and for them to say ” I didn’t mean it, sowwy” I’m taliking about the ones that you can’t make it up from the top of your head just to look cute. Like the Mel Gibson and the chick about the asians in the library thing (those are the only two I think of at the moment. Did she even done a fake apology yet?). You bitches know you meant every word of it. Own up to your shit
Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers
Kill them all slowly and painfully
I understand where he’s coming from and why he’s reacting that way, however, this part of the lyrics I won’t even try to “defend”. Should never have said that imo.
Not sure how his career in the US will be from now on.. I mean, some people will move on but some others absolutely definitely won’t.
And that was an eloquent, thoughtful apology, just saying
Generally speaking, yeah, it was well said.
Like I said, if you take it literally, it probably reads worse than an Osama Bin Laden video, really. If you take it as an expression of emotion as an artist, it’s simply a culmination of anger and frustration and what not.
I don’t blame people who take it a bit personally though, especially military.
“one where he lifted an American tank above his head and smashed it”
I’m not sorry I laughed.
“Doubt Korea would have a negative reaction to it.” It seems like they don’t.
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2012/12/psys-past-anti-america-song-catches-up.html
I’m sorry, this time I don’t get what the big deal is. So he sang some song and did shit he probably shouldn’t have. I do that every time I drank too much.
If every country decided to get super butthurt over lyrics of songs/poems/books that were written against them with a malicious intent, we would be on the V World war by now.
Every country DOES get “butthurt” over stuff like this though.
Not every country decided to go to war about it though.
Some do, some don’t. Poland and Russia have been throwing tons of shit at eachother since 1991, but you don’t see either one of them getting pissy about it. Same with, let’s say Russia and Finland. On the other hand, you have the Spanish not being able to say anything about the Basque, because they’re going to have ETA on their asses in no time. Do you get my point? I feel like I’m not making it clear…
Sort of?
If you’re talking about the politicians, then no American politician seems to care much about this.
If you’re talking about the general population, then yeah, most countries would feel offended.
Either way, not too many will go to war about it. Maybe the governments with a Muslim theocracy, like over depictions of Muhammad and what not, but everybody else, no.
I personally don’t care. I understand his actions in that context. Plus, being an anti-war libertarian, I sorta agree with the sentiment (except for the killing people part).
However, the media feeds on stuff like this. His ability to promote in America is effectively over – unless he wants to constantly answer questions about his “anti-American” rant every time he appears on a show.
If the lyrics weren’t so extreme, I think this would blow over. But I don’t think people are just going to accept an apology for the “kill American soldiers and their children” stuff.
Nobody in America would give much of a shit if it wasn’t for the stuff about the military and their families.
Someone comments on Allkpop that they don’t like that annoying Gangnam song. =They are disgusting racist pigs who need to kill themselves.
Psy says that he wants innocent young girls to be tortured and killed slowly =What happened to Freedom of Speech? Oppa can say what he wants to.
Honestly, I was really shocked by this, but has it made me hate PSY? No. I think what he said was stupid. But everyone has done and said stupid crap that we are now ashamed of, only the majority of us haven’t done so at a concert in front of thousands with video cameras.
But I think that’s America over for him. Note to future Kpop idols trying to break the states: Don’t records songs about killing and torturing your target market.
Great article, by the way Eminem killed his mother too.
…in his song
I always thought if a korean artist made it in America, shit like this would come up lol.
This is why I say they need to change.
If they want to stick to their own country, then fine, they can do whatever. But if they seek and/or need overseas success, then adjustments need to be made.
It’s just reality.
This won’t even be as big of a deal as them being labeled racist/sexist.
As an obnoxious teenage girl, I have lots of emotion. There are a lot of people who piss me off to no end (radical Islamists, denying Turks, Communists, annoying Socialists, allkpop), but I have never said anything like this. Teenage girls say stupid shit all the time. We’re annoying bitches with too much emotion. Psy is a grown man, he should have some sort of control over his words, whether he’s a very proud Korean and an eminent artist showing emotion or not. I have never been angry and frustrated enough to want to torture and kill someone and their kids, not even allkpopers, and I’m not some merciful hippie either.
Not only that, but Americans have been better to Korea than terrorists, communists and allkpop have been to the world, I still keep my mouth shut. His comments were mindless.
It would probably be nice of me to just assume that these were empty and extemporaneous words in a time of IMMENSE frustration and anger, but this will not be irremediable to most people, no matter how genuine his apology seems. I’m basically over it, but I don’t blame anyone who’s still offended. He has every right to be angry, frustrated, emotional, whatever, but if he’s going to say this, a backlash shouldn’t be surprising.
This is all just unfortunate cause I wanted him to be more than a one hit wonder.
Fuqqq..
Fuck it this is just a summary of the whole damn article and previous comments.
Agree.
Yeah – my main feeling when I read about this wasn’t offense over his comments (since I don’t think he really meant it even back then) – it was the disappointment that the story got out.
I’m tired of Gangnam Style (like everyone else), but I was rooting for his continued international success.
I still give him a small chance of overcoming this (after all, we are the country that hands Grammys out to guys who beat the shit out of women – a much worse offense than making inflammatory comments, IMO), but I think he’ll most likely have to focus his efforts outside of the US.
Totally agree
I knew something like this was going to come up . and the fact that “fans” want to say Americans are sensitive and a bunch of unnecessary things to make matters worst is pretty much stupid . I wonder what would happen is Justin beiber said something like that would he be defended . I mean i understand where both sides are coming from and Psy career here is most likely downhill depending on who actually pays attention . If he still sings for the president, obama will get alot of backlash and hate from those who are racist against Asians and those who just plainly don’t like him. And now he and probably every other K-pop idol who wanted to be a singer here will most likely be a one hit wonder .
I’m really hoping that people back off trying to defend what he said, and let his apology stand for itself. I feel like defending the indefensible just keeps the story alive, whereas a sincere apology for the crazy shit he said nearly a decade ago during a crazy time out to close the discussion.
*out=ought. i no spel gud.
Oppa didn’t mean it?
Lol
Ice T wrote Cop Killer.
Ice T is now a cop on Law & Order.
America will forget. We always do, since most of the country is retarded anyway.
Ice T is an American.
you’ll see how it has turned into some Psy apology fest, where they basically complain about how terrible America and Americans are, so it’s totally okay to do whatever to them. It’s hilarious to see them call Americans sensitive and what not, but if an American artist were to say Koreans and Japanese deserve to die, those same people would label the American artist as racist and probably rally for him/her to be banned from the country forever. After all
That basically
I agree with you.
Not to mention Bill O’Reily’s dumbass perception about Psy and the song. After that, I dislike him more.
I just ignored him like I always do.
Am I the only conservative on this whole damn site?
Just because you’re conservative doesn’t mean you have to listen to idiots.
I’m center-left, but probably seen as left now though because the right has gone so far right.
You could easily say that both sides have gotten too far left/right. Part of why D.C is basically a stalemate.
The only thing Obama is left on is the economy.
That’s it.
And he’s not even that far left.
Surprised the right doesn’t love his foreign policy of war.
…
Wow.
Usually I respect your opinion because you’re smart; I usually agree with you. But politics is not something we’re going to have any agreement on whatsoever.
Just forget I asked.
It’s true.
People who think he’s a leftist are brainwashed by the media ratings play and party rhetoric.
What has changed at the core of the country since Bush?
lol
De gustibus non disputandum est, as one of my professors likes to say.
Oh fuck, wrong article.
Wrong article, dammit.
And a double post, wow. Clearly not my morning.
DID YOU JUST PULL A KAFKAF?!?!
…I believe I did, sweetcheeks! Oh God, it’s spreading like a nasty STD!
If it’s the STD’s of you guys, I will gladly adopt them and make sure they grow up to be strong and lovable STD’s.