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YG Entertainment has decided to drop the rest of SuPearls and hold on to soloist Lee Hi, and the announcement comes along with the excuse that SuPearls decided to breakup for the benefit of the group members.
YG Entertainment stated, “We’ve decided to nullify the contracts of Lee Michelle, Lee Jung Mi, and Lee Seung Joo without any conditions“. Out of the girls who were supposed to debut under the highly anticipated girl group, only Lee Hi will be staying in the company to continue her solo career.
The label added, “Even though it’s disappointing, they decided that they should break up for the benefit of each other, so we have decided on this unavoidable decision.” Not only so, but YG Entertainment is currently busy with their upcoming girl group, as well as the comebacks for 2NE1, G-Dragon, and Kang Seung Yoon. Lee Hi will also release her solo album next month.
So much for that whole “Papa YG only cares about artistry and his YG Family” shit, huh? Oops.
Let’s put this in real terms without the bullshit: he signed three members of the original SuPearls (the other signed to JYPE), added Lee Hi to the group, tried her as a soloist, she ended up having a breakout debut, so he saw the rest of them as redundant and shitcanned them.
Now the hype for SuPearls has died down and they are sans the member with mainstream name recognition, so it’s hard to think of any way that a company could fuck a group over worse besides keeping ALL of them in idol purgatory, but even then, at least they’re not stripped of a member and essentially disbanded.
Pretty fucked up, honestly.
I’m not sure how one can defend this in a way that doesn’t make Yang Hyun Suk look like an asshole, but hey, I’m sure people will be trying.
Yep, he screwed them over, no excusing this. The whole Papa YG image and Lee Hi for that matter, will get dinged by this.
I just waited for a statement. This is soooooooooooo shitty for the girls. Most of the netizens are very sorry for Michelle, because she has more talent than a lot of idols out there, but she has less chance to make it in the k-pop insustry because she is biracial…. I don’t know, but what I saw she is really good
He’s an asshole for signing them and waiting for them to be forgotten to kick them out.
They were obviously just a back-up plan. He signed more people than he could handle.
He can’t even handle 2 groups, how the hell was he gonna manage all the new trophies he got the past year?
That’s bad, I was really anticipating their debut. I worried about Lee Hi being in this group as already successful solo singer (thus potentially getting all the attention) and wondered what YG was going to do about it… I didn’t expect them to be kicked out(
As for defense, the most popular I’ve seen so far – YG is a mess now and can’t handle so many groups (which is kinda true), so “Papa YG chose quality over quantity” (wtf)
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They were going to have in interesting, multiracial group with SuPearls. I mean, for once they wouldn’t all have the same creepy doll bodies. Now all I can hope is that the next group isn’t cookie cutter.
I have two reasons for the breakup..
1. Michelle
2. Their body type/size
also YG is a giant idiot who can’t micromanage? It’s Big Bang or bust these days.
I know YG is sh***ing his pants right now because he knows Big Bang & 2NE1 lifespan is almost up and hopes his new girl group can caring the torch and not flop
looks like he’s pretty much given up on 2NE1… i heard rumors that Teddy’s got writers block (plus he just opened up a cafe or something), i also kind of doubt Lydia Paek is capable of keeping the girl groups afloat on her own so unless YG’s willing to spend some extra $$ for a new producer (and possibly new sound altogether), that new girl group of his won’t make it.
Why doesn’t he use Kush?
@Cheesy Kush left YG already
@mijjang but they still have Choice37, Choi Pil Kang and other guys. And if it’s not enough, I can’t see why hiring a new guy would be a problem. And I think GD was going to produce new girl group’s album, but we can never trust YG and his plans
Well, CL’s getting her own solo album (and she’s going to “break the boundaries of the ‘quiet Asian woman’ stereotype”), and they’re going to have a comeback with the “traditional” 2NE1 sound… Damn. I was actually hoping they might do something different than the “OMG FIERCE SWAG IN YO FAAAAAAAACE” with Jeremy Scott throwing shit at them song/MV.
This makes me sad. I was really looking forward to their debut.
I agree that he probably dropped them after Lee Hi had so much success, but I think it also had to deal with the girls being average looking along with their body types. Or maybe YG spent too much money on programming that Lee Hi robot.
But Michelle has a lot of talent, hopefully she kicks ass on her own.
Sucks that these girls are just being tossed around, they should at least have been given a fair chance.
This goes for JYP too, he gave 15& such a boring debut and focused more on that other girl. But at least 15& got a chance to debut.
I’m sure someone will take them in eventually since they were such a big hit, they just have to keep on trying.
Meh. All that ‘YG Family’ thing is so fake anyways.
Of course there’s a way to defend him!!!! “YG Papa didn’t mean it ;___;”
It’s a shitty move on YG’s part, but I don’t think this should come as a surprise. Lee Hi alredy established herself as a soloist, and remember that rumour a while back about Michelle being super pissed because they were trying to make her a rapper in SuPearls, just because she’s mixed? I must admit, I didn’t see them happening.
Also, maybe I’m not seeing something here, but in my humble opinion YG didn’t think this one through. Michelle would fit perfectly with that ‘image’ the company seems to be trying to have, and they definitely would be able to afford putting some money into her…
Tap I didn’t know this was you
http://www.youtube.com/user/AXE?v=QGoU3VH7He4
Where did you hear about yg trying to make lee michelle the rapper? I mean I remembered she and yg not getting along but I don’t remember anything about this. Im not doubting it happened but I wanna read about it if you have the source…
Ok, so it turns out I might have made it up. I knew I saw about the rapper thing but couldn’t remember where, so I looked it up. Apparently I just remembered someone’s comment IATFB agreed with: http://www.asianjunkie.com/2012/10/yg-entertainment-lee-michelle-may-be-having-issues-so-lets-invent-narratives/, the commenter’s name is dtp_jnr. Sorry, you might just as well ignore what I said!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFC-FvibJI
Is Bom wasted?
maybe
I would be wasted all of the time if I looked like that.
Please ignore that I am wasted most of the time.
feels fucking unfair for the rest of the girls
Yang Hyun Suk has always been a tactless asshole.
But of course, for YG elitists he is their freakin god. “YG Papa only cares for music, not looks or quantity. Boo!! Fuck evil SM and stupid JYP!!! Bla bla bla…. “.
I bet my ass he didn’t expect LeeHi to be that succesfull and SuPearls were Plan B.
But she is, so he decided that the rest needs to GTFO. Anyways, for the public they were already “She feat. Three other chicks”. And I don’t think YG would have put a big effort for changing that. I could already see her getting 80% of the lines. (-_-)
They are probably going to give her all the music and concept prepared for the group.
Sigh. I somehow had pretty good expectation from this group.
Agreed. And yeah I had good expectations too. I was looking forward to SuPearls more than I was YG’s SNSD girl group. But that maybe due to to the fact that I have a hard time getting into groups with too many memebers, no more than 7 members. I’m getting better though, it use to be 5.
This is unfortunate, I really liked Lee Seoung Joo and Lee Michelle but I can’t say I’m suprised. But I think its a good reminder to all the delusional yg stans that yg is just like all the other companines. They do what they think will bring in the most money, that is all, they aren’t at all concerned about being a family or talent. But of course like you said people are going to try defending it, a lot of people seem to be putting emphases on the quote stated by YG that it was SuPearls desicion. Well of course hes not gonna make it seem like it was his fault, I’m sure he knew the backlash it would cause why would he wanna make matters worse.
I think the only real reason Suk even sign SuPearls was because SM wasn’t taking in any trainees. He is such a piece of shit like that
I was expecting that ever since i knew that Michelle got in YG lol
Come on…let’s be realistic here, you can’t debut a non-asian in kpop…(I give no fucks that she had an asian parent, she’s not pure asian blood and that by itself is enough to cause a massive hatred clusterfuck in Korea, any CEO that has a minimum of logic knows that this is risky).
Also, well…look at their looks, most girls look like they failed to lose the weight during their trainee days, Michelle looks like a monster with high-heels, out of the 4, only one is “fuckable”. I’m not harsh, just honest. YG is a business and needs pedomagnets as female idols, these girls ain’t pedomagnets for shit, making this debut idea even more stupid.
The risks are just way too high in a business stand point to make Su Pearls a possible idea, i know people will get butthurt and will call out for racism on YG’s behalf, and even insult Yang Hyun Suk. But let’s stop being a bunch of hypocrites here, if we owned a multi-million dollar label, we would probably do the same thing he did lol.
I do agree that signing them with no real faith in debuting them was an asshole move. These girls lost a year or two living in a shithole hoping to get a shot and they get removed last minute lol, they could have spent that time in school or looking for other business opportunities instead hoping for a lost cause.
And i don’t even know why Lee Michelle is so stubborn into trying to get in the korean market, she has talent, why not invest her efforts in America for better results ? She KNOWS that nobody will fucking accept her yet she keeps going at it hoping for a miracle to happen.
because she doesn’t speak a lick of english? we all saw what happened to SE7EN out here in the States, i doubt YG would want to invest in that again.
“Come on…let’s be realistic here, you can’t debut a non-asian in kpop…(I give no fucks that she had an asian parent, she’s not pure asian blood and that by itself is enough to cause a massive hatred clusterfuck in Korea, any CEO that has a minimum of logic knows that this is risky).”
Uhhh, Tasha/ Yoon Mi Rae does pretty well for herself. I’m not saying it’s easy for her, and I don’t consider her an idol, but it’s not like there are no mixed race people in Kpop.
Mixed race would exclude half-black/half-korean. You know how koreans react to skin color right ? They flip the fuck out if you’re tanned, now imagine having black ancestry. If she actually looked asian and had proper physique, MAYBE she would have a chance. But since kpop takes appearance as a trop priority, Lee Michelle will never make it there.
If you ask me, if the alternative is America, Korea is her best shot to make it.
People bitch about why Crystal Kay isn’t more popular in Japan, but … uh … if she was Japanese, she would be a nobody. If she tried America, she would be a nobody, so I mean, it’s still the right choice.
Dude, Tasha is half-black. That’s what I’m trying to say. So is Insooni, there are half-black people in Kpop.
Lots of people are half black yes. But even Tasha still struggles in korea because of it.
Is she really such a remarkable talent that she would make it in America, where her race and language skills wouldn’t mean anything?
Because she’s not pretty enough to capitalize on it by going down that route (like Beyonce and others), so her vocals would have to stand on their own, and if that’s the case, there are a ton of superior vocalists out there that can compete.
I don’t see any reason why JYP shouldn’t sign them.
Then they’d be the original Supearls with Park Ji-min who is already with the company.
Seoulbeats already did an article on why this group is a good idea, and I agree with it:
http://seoulbeats.com/2012/05/supearls-the-best-idea-yg-has-ever-had/
Most of the work is already done. The girls are already talented (no training needed), they’re already a fan favorite, and they are already well-known.
Plus, it could gain the company some goodwill from picking them up out of YG’s trash.
And if it fails, no big deal. Low risk, potentially high reward.
The reason JYP wouldn’t sign them is the same reason everyone’s saying these girls are screwed: the hype has died down. The show that introduced Supearls and created their momentum was over a year ago, and even Kpop groups that have already had their debut suffer if they’re out of the public eye that long.
I still see more upside than downside. A talented group doesn’t need as much “hype”, anyways.
SM could afford to take the risk, JYP is fucking bleeding money.
:o
Reasons he wouldn’t sign them:
1) He’s already busy managing JJ Project as well as 2pm/Miss A’s projects that take for ever to make.
2) He already DISSED Michelle by making her rival win even though she performed the best.
3) Managing a group takes time, money, and risks, the fact that these girls are already trained doesn’t mean shit.
1) Seems more like he’s been busy jerking off.
2) Believing that Ji-min is the better singer isn’t a reason to not sign Michelle.
3) All these companies are still investing time, money, and taking risks on unknown trainees that have zero guarantee of success. At least with Supearls you have less risk and higher potential for success since they’re already well known, talented, and liked by almost everyone. Plus, it could help salvage his investment in Ji-min, if Supearls ends up being the success that 15& wasn’t.
Looks like someone never worked in the industry before…
Trust me man, those girls have the talent but not the looks. In most cases, looks will decide if the idol is popular or not. Most people support them out of pity in order to see them debut, that’s all, but they don’t fit the complete idol picture that was set by YG.
Regarding JYP, that company is far from having enough ressources to sign a new group out of the blue. Just look at how 2pm’s korean comeback is turning out, no real activities in korea since 2011 and the company is playing it safe by milking as much money as they can off japanese fans. They really can’t handle managing a new group with IMPREVISIBLE outputs. Just because they got support a year ago doesn’t mean they’ll be the next 2NE1, got it ? It’s still risky and most companies will prefer avoid wasting their time with that, and debut their own trainees in brand new projects.
I’m not sure I’d classify these girls as “idols” just because they are part of a group. The trend over the last year in Korea has been non-idols. Plenty of ugly people had a lot of success in Korean music recently. Plus, YG knew what they looked like when he signed them, so obviously looks weren’t a factor, anyways.
It basically came down to not wanting to dilute Lee Hi’s solo success by pairing her up with Supearls. And without Lee Hi, I don’t think Supearls would work.
However, JYP already has the star of Supearls under contract and this would simply involve adding the additional three. Is there risk? Of course – but it’s probably a safer bet than any other new project they’re working on.
Jype wont sign them. First of all jype is not jyp. They do have another ceo and their own management as well as (stupid)-marketing team thus their opinions does not represents jyp. As far as i know, theres an ex-trainee who once said that it will be impossible for jype to have a black idol in the near future bcoz they focused more on korean and chinese snd have no plans for black idol.plus they have a lot of trainees to manage now and they had to struggle with 2pm,jjproject,baek ahyeon and 15& for now. Wg has been decided to go hiatus bcoz of sunye so they dont know what to do with the rest, gsoul who we will never know when to debut, Joo who is forever doing musicals, san e who is confused about releasing album or free mixtape and miss a is not doing well despite two comebacks in a year.they are even desperately looking for new songwriters. Do you really think they would even give a shit bout supearls? I would rather for jype to fix their management and marketing team for now. But personally i want lee michelle to be in jype bcoz atleast its the only place that would make her feel at ease.i mean they have jimin and ahyeon since they are close, plus min and kwon that could teach her how to become the kkab member.and jyp would love her since she has soul. But cmon its impossible for now. Maybe jungle or brandnewmusic should take her.
I think it’s a bullshit decision, and I don’t even really care that much about Supearls. I mainly remember how ridiculously stiff Lee Hi was in the ’1 2 3 4′ video and performances, and think she would benefit greatly from some other performers to cover for her.
Exactly
Lee Hi’s live performances are fucking disaster.
I love her but watching her trying to dance is just embarrassing. Being in Supearls would be much a better choice before going solo IMO
I’m not exactly defending YG but I’m going against the popular opinion here.
Anything can happen before debut (even after debut, as some companies have done in the past). YG is obviously very selective about his employees so if the trainees are even a hair short of his expectations he will cut them. Sounds fair to me.
YG already did this with Hyunseung way back during Big Bang’s trainee period. He broadcasted the whole process on TV. That’s similar to this situation with the girls being from Kpop Star.
TBQH only Lee Michelle was the most memorable one of the three. The other two are forgettable personality wise. Both Lee Hi and Lee Michelle have distinct tones/voices while the others are standard fare. YG’s style seems to favor groups where every individual has a voice that stands out when they sing together, rather than voices that blend together (think 2NE1 vs Miss A). I can imagine the idols from Big Bang or 2NE1 each having a solo career, but besides Lee Michelle I don’t think anyone from the remaining SuPearls members have the star quality for it. They didn’t make it to the Top 3 and I can see why. If anyone actually watched the show, one of them even got kicked out before live auditions but made it because the judges took pity on her. The other one was kicked out soon afterwards.
Lee Michelle seems to have an attitude problem (Korean standards, not mine). Imagine the shit she would get if she actually debuted. YG’s PR would be working around the clock.
So yeah, I agree that it was harsh because they’re kids (not Michelle, she must be 20 by now) and YG was greedy about picking up the extra girls, but it’s business, god damn.
Justin Timberlake is the only mainstream guy from NSYNC nowadays. Same thing with Beyonce from Destiny’s Child. It seems like YG just wants to cut out the unnecessary members to save time and money. I wouldn’t call him an asshole I guess, to me it’s just how the industry is cut out to be. If the kids can’t handle this kind of rejection then idol life is not for them.
Abiding by the industry status quo doesn’t preclude you from being an asshole.
It wouldn’t be all that bad if he didn’t take another non-winner from the same competition, put her in/associate her with SuPearls, going as far as taking promo pics for the group, and then ripping that away after the Lee Hi solo debut was successful.
Sorry, but classifying them as “trainees” is a tad misleading when YG promised to debut them by the end of 2012. It would be like shitcanning the group he’s currently hyping up … except SuPearls’ case was worse because we already knew who they were and we saw them perform.
As far as talent goes, I’m not sure how SuPearls would be all that different from 2NE1. Lee Hi and Michelle Lee would be the soloists, sort of like Park Bom and CL (maybe?), but it’s not like people are clamoring for Dara and Minzy solo efforts (hell, nobody is on CL’s wagon either, judging by netizens). Big Bang is really the only YG group with a bunch of standout soloists, even 1TYM didn’t do shit as individuals.
The only person from Kpop Star that was GUARANTEED a debut was Park Jimin, the winner. Basically Lee Hi and Baek Ah Yeon were the LUCKY ones that were saved from the Top 10. I didn’t hold my breath for SuPearls to debut because although they were popular, nothing is officially promised unless you are a winner. And nothing is official until debut – so to me, yeah they are still considered trainees even if they are “favorites” with the public.
I think a lot of people forget that because people just wanna shit on YG. Lol. It just seems really naive to me when people get dramatic, saying that YG was cruel and he backstabbed the SuPearl girls… I’ve spoken to several people working in the industry (in the US) and what YG is doing isn’t really different than what regularly happens over here. People get cut all the time, promoted or not, promised or not. Plans fall out ALL THE TIME at the most inconvenient moments and that’s just how the industry is made no matter what country it’s in. Maybe in another field it would be unprofessional, but here it’s just the nature of the beast.
YG’s excuse was that the girls split for the benefit of everyone in the group. We don’t REALLY know what happened and I don’t see the point in laying all the blame solely on YG. Maybe after the girls signed with YG, one of the girls’ parents had second thoughts and wanted to pull them out from idol life (like what happened with Hyuna when she was with the WG?). Or maybe Michelle wanted to be a solo without SuPearls and YG couldn’t take that risk. It could have been a very simple difference in paths that couldn’t be compromised by either party.
I don’t ever remember YG doing promo pics for SuPearls – just for Lee Hi for her solo debut. If you could post a link, I’d like to check it out.
YG usually releases press statements way after a decision has been made, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he disbanded them a long time ago, even before Lee Hi’s debut, and then just notified the public now. He is usually shitty about press announcements, but I don’t know if that translates into = SuPearl girls being victims. It’s the popular sentiment right now with some people because they got attached to the contestants during Kpop Star and they’re sensitive/upset about the news of the split.
I honestly think that this publicity can only help them get picked up by another company. A Kpop Star candidate is a better choice than a nobody. A finalist already has training from the show PLUS SuPearls have extra training from YG. I think it’s good he let them go instead of dragging them on for years without a guarantee of debuting – they are young enough to have the choice of going back to school.
IMO I think Michelle came across as overly aggressive or rude during the show and you have to be likeable to be an idol. Maybe it’s just me – I don’t find SuPearls really special even though I’ve tried really hard to. They are vocally very talented but not very interesting to watch.
Anyway like I said, I’m not defending YG because I definitely call him out when he makes BS moves but I just don’t get that vibe here. Their disbanding could have been very possibly started from something other than his assholery haha. I don’t think it’s hard to imagine that they might have dropped out from their own choice, rather than YG “ripping away” a chance for success. If he can’t handle them, then maybe another company can. Hyunseung is doing fine in Beast, as are other trainees from the Big 3 that were dropped before debut.
I didn’t forget anything in regards to the competition. I said classifying them as trainees was an asinine point because they were given a debut date … and they were, in September of 2012.
http://www.allkpop.com/2012/08/yg-entertainment-to-debut-supearls-new-girl-group-before-2012-comes-to-a-close
http://www.mtviggy.com/blog-posts/yg-entertainment-sets-supearl%E2%80%99s-debut-tentatively-for-september/
Shit happens, sure, but no, companies don’t tend to hype up groups then shitcan them. That’s not the industry standard. I’ve been following K-pop for a long time, and I can’t recall many groups that were given a debut date and were then dropped from the company entirely within half a year.
At the very least, their status made sure that it was not enough to label them simply as trainees that didn’t make it, as they got much further along than that. Again, it’s akin to YG cutting everybody from the current girl group he’s hyping and starting over.
Besides, once again, whether it’s considered standard or not has nothing to do with him being an asshole or not. Sleeping around to get ahead seems to be an industry standard in entertainment around the world as well, but it’s still not something that should be endorsed just because it’s the status quo.
Not sure why you think I have a dog in this fight either. I didn’t watch the show and I don’t care about them much at all. The only thing I’m seeing is that they went as far as setting a debut date for the group, Lee Hi blew up in October, and he said “welp, fuck this” and cut his losses with the group.
If you want to defend that as “standard” or whatever, then fine, but I think most people are simply calling a spade a spade when they’re saying it was a dick move.
Sorry I cannot agree with these excuses
Lol sorry.
Pretty much everyone had high hopes for Supearls and YG ends up dropping them. I kinda saw it coming, with all the delays and the whole Michelle Lee nonsense. And it really sucks, because I don’t see them getting signed to another company. It’s likely we’ll never hear from them again.
And I doubt they were dropped because of looks and weight. YG intended for them to reflect Big Mama, a group that focused on music as opposed to appearances. It makes more sense to me that he simply couldn’t handle the work that comes with having so many soloists and groups. Between working on the comebacks of 2NE1, Lee Hi, Seung Yoon and GD while planning to debut a girl group, he probably felt like he was in over his head. Not to mention he’s preparing a new boy group and CL’s debut.
How’s that fourth girl doing in JYPE?
I loved their performances on the show, but I never pegged them to be more than an act. Didn’t really get an idol group vibe from them :/
I feel bad for them. YG really screwed them over. Lee Michelle, especially, has practically no chance in getting in another company because she’s biracial.
And I know Lee Hi has gained a lot of popularity since her debut but…tbh, I don’t think her success will last that long. She’s talented, yes. But she has practically no stage-presence and no charisma. The only reason she’ll keep being popular is because she’s from YG.
“Lee Michelle, especially, has practically no chance in getting in another company because she’s biracial.”
More like no chance at a Big 3 company. The smaller ones and the nobodies (to internationals at least) might brave the risk if they don’t have much to lose. As things are right now, the Big 3 can’t possibly take any of the SuPearls members in – full Korean/Asian or not.
SM’s recovering from the flops of EXO (K at least) and their bad live perf all year (and no new material). SNSD… do we even need to mention the progression of bad to continuously worse from The Boys to IGAB? Suju: Do your time in the army. Let ELFs miss you.
Do we even need to discuss all the mistakes JYPE has made? JYPE doesn’t know how to keep their groups relevant long enough for people to care.
YG: too many artists to try to debut, not enough staff and handlers. Big Bang can at least hold their own in the studio without too many hands in the cookie jar; 2ne1 can’t even song write. YG can’t manage their solo acts for very long (Lee Hi will go to idol purgatory like everyone else when that other girl group comes along or someone makes their comeback), let alone debut more than 1 group.
I’d probably do the same thing as a CEO if I knew that there was no hope and they’re not even good for some raunchy jizzing on their faces time because they are lacking in the looks department.
Although at the same time I wouldn’t feed people that family crap because I am an antisocial whore.
Who are you kidding, YG?
I was really anticipating their debut, so I am definitely disappointed, especially with Lee Michelle. I was excited to see a biracial girl like me breaking the mold and making it big, especially with South Korea being the way it is and being signed to a Big 3 company. People bullshit all the time about how YG is unique and chooses talent over looks and yada yada yada, but they are exactly the same as all the other fucking companies–they want to pimp out their idols and make that money.
As for Lee Hi, I like her singing style and she seems like a chill person, but she’s so fucking stiff. People say “Oh, she’s young and she’s nervous and it’s just her debut,” which of course she is, but I’ve seen a more animated performance from a person with arthritis pop lock and drop it.
This would not work anyways. Korea is still against the whole mix group thing it seems. And I agree that Papa YG bullcrap attitude has got to go. He no more cares about artistry than my big toe.
To all the people claiming that you can’t make a stand out group out of whole cloth ugly:
What about Big Mama? Not a good looking woman in that group, yet their songs were awesome, their stage presence was off the charts, and they were widely popular. And they were with YGE, so obviously he knows how to work such a group if he wants to. He’s gotten old though, and greedy.
Don’t believe anybody sees them as a girl group though.
They were girls, and they were a group. What else woupd you call them? A barbershop quartet?
They’re technically classified as a female singing group or female vocal group. Girl group/boy band usually infers a specific genre/type.
You are profiling, and profiling is wrong.
Those two terms can be used as pejoratives.
That’s all.